really? people are going to let a relevant and helpful thread die because they all want their own?

sad

Also the CPM has a whole hasnt said a whole lot aside from saying they are with the community.

You keep saying the channels are open between you and CCP.... so... what has happened so far?

Where are the other CPM members? Wish there was a quick way to find what you are posting.

someone in CCP admitted the shafted the heavy too much and they intend to partially remove the rod soon soon

someone in CCP admitted the shafted the heavy too much and they intend to partially remove the rod soon soon

they shafted everyone almost

From what I've been able to gather it isn't malicious intent. Whatever technical hurdles there may be though, you all deserve as much data about the things you are going to invest your time and money into when it comes to your SP, ISK, and AUR. With the dramatic changes in ranges it only makes sense that you all be given a comparison to Chromosome ranges and Uprising changes.

We were told in IRC that many of the stats were limited just because it was not convenient to pull them out of the system. I don't know how it applies to weapon ranges, but weapon damage for example is an attribute of the projectile itself and so couldn't be attached to the weapon in the spreadsheet. It may be that range is a property of the projectile as well, or simply not stored as a basic variable attached to the weapon.

I doubt it would have been difficult to link them but maybe they're using some crazily obscure system to link ammo to weapons. (Interestingly this may be some evidence towards seeing different ammo types in future).

Thanks for this thread Kane.

We were told in IRC that many of the stats were limited just because it was not convenient to pull them out of the system. I don't know how it applies to weapon ranges, but weapon damage for example is an attribute of the projectile itself and so couldn't be attached to the weapon in the spreadsheet. It may be that range is a property of the projectile as well, or simply not stored as a basic variable attached to the weapon.

I doubt it would have been difficult to link them but maybe they're using some crazily obscure system to link ammo to weapons. (Interestingly this may be some evidence towards seeing different ammo types in future).

Please be advised that the numbers are in and shotgun range was also ninja nerfed. Coupled with the known aiming issues that going proto appears to have made even worse and to boot a problem that is worse at close range..... with three type of ugly the game is unplayable for me other than to go in fire off some rounds and maybe hit someone.

so the heavies arch nemisis got triple nerfed too?

sad sad days

You should see what happens when two shotguns meet... A rage dance of lead and tears.

Ive seen and used shotguns, they have become a joke to me. they could be 2 inches away and hit you and all it does it annoy the target

I haven't used a shotgun in this game for over a year. Last night i tourned my heavy alt into a scout and went out with the merc pack shotgun with half-trained skills, no damage mods.

I can two shot proto heavies.

Funny how people think that CPM is here to fix bugs and patch game quicker :)

News flash: it is not.

Who thinks that?

it made the game worse to play, I am not even sure how it could be possible,.

They don't fix them, themselves, to my knowledge I thought they are community leaders that represent players. They are exposed to stuff before it happens, and give input that CCP may or may not take.

[Devs please listen to the CPM and the community, we know what we want and what works.