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Asmadai
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.06 19:48:00 -
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Just a thought...but how about a second respec for skills on the 14. Given that new items are coming out and this could serve as an 8 day testing period for all of those who played in the beta.
I may also have selfish reasons such that I regret not going into scout suits and want to try again haha :P
Wouldn't be impossible or the worst thing in the world. |
MacGoogles iS-me-name
ThatsHott
6
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Posted - 2013.05.06 19:50:00 -
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Asmadai wrote:Just a thought...but how about a second respec for skills on the 14. Given that new items are coming out and this could serve as an 8 day testing period for all of those who played in the beta.
I may also have selfish reasons such that I regret not going into scout suits and want to try again haha :P
Wouldn't be impossible or the worst thing in the world.
true, guaranteed people have already chosen wrong skills, i only bought my AR skills so far :P |
Asmadai
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
3
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Posted - 2013.05.06 19:53:00 -
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MacGoogles iS-me-name wrote:Asmadai wrote:Just a thought...but how about a second respec for skills on the 14. Given that new items are coming out and this could serve as an 8 day testing period for all of those who played in the beta.
I may also have selfish reasons such that I regret not going into scout suits and want to try again haha :P
Wouldn't be impossible or the worst thing in the world. true, guaranteed people have already chosen wrong skills, i only bought my AR skills so far :P
It would be great to have 8 days of being able to experiment and then be able to move on. Don't even refund the items, just give people their SP back and they can deal with selling the gear they wont use when the open market goes online.
I was one of the people who was stupid and thought I knew what I was doing. |
ARF 1049
The Phoenix Federation
16
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Posted - 2013.05.06 19:55:00 -
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Asmadai wrote:Just a thought...but how about a second respec for skills on the 14. Given that new items are coming out and this could serve as an 8 day testing period for all of those who played in the beta.
I may also have selfish reasons such that I regret not going into scout suits and want to try again haha :P
Wouldn't be impossible or the worst thing in the world.
+1 i was thinking of this but didn't really decide to post on it so it didn't use space |
Asmadai
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
3
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Posted - 2013.05.06 20:02:00 -
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ARF 1049 wrote:Asmadai wrote:Just a thought...but how about a second respec for skills on the 14. Given that new items are coming out and this could serve as an 8 day testing period for all of those who played in the beta.
I may also have selfish reasons such that I regret not going into scout suits and want to try again haha :P
Wouldn't be impossible or the worst thing in the world. +1 i was thinking of this but didn't really decide to post on it so it didn't use space
Yeah, I fully expect to just be out of luck on this one. But someone might as well request it and see how CCP feels. My love for the game is strongest when I am running around in a scout suit with explosives.
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Zero Harpuia
WarRavens Orion Empire
434
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Posted - 2013.05.06 20:05:00 -
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Asmadai wrote:ARF 1049 wrote:Asmadai wrote:Just a thought...but how about a second respec for skills on the 14. Given that new items are coming out and this could serve as an 8 day testing period for all of those who played in the beta.
I may also have selfish reasons such that I regret not going into scout suits and want to try again haha :P
Wouldn't be impossible or the worst thing in the world. +1 i was thinking of this but didn't really decide to post on it so it didn't use space Yeah, I fully expect to just be out of luck on this one. But someone might as well request it and see how CCP feels. My love for the game is strongest when I am running around in a scout suit with explosives.
Ugh, flashbacks to Remote Explosive scout asshats...
I support this cause, mostly because it makes no bloody sense for them to withhold all this crap til the 14th while those of us playing now have to make, at best, educated guesses about where to spend our SP. |
Piercing Serenity
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
283
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Posted - 2013.05.06 20:05:00 -
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I'd be against that - another respec - on principle. I'm sorry that you spent your SP poorly. You're probably a good guy (or girl) who made an honest mistake. And normally, you might be able to coax a helping hand out of someone.
This, however, is New Eden. You are part of the harshest environment imaginable, where your success comes from your attention to details. You double check what each skill does before you triple check how much SP it costs you. You look at how to maximize your DPS while maintaining a high speed. And you look through the forums daily, constantly looking for another leg up on your competition.
That's the world I want to live in anyway.
TL;DR: I'm sorry for your mistakes, but that's just the nature of the game. There will almost certainly not be another re-allocation of skills. |
Asmadai
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
3
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Posted - 2013.05.06 20:11:00 -
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Piercing Serenity wrote:I'd be against that - another respec - on principle. I'm sorry that you spent your SP poorly. You're probably a good guy (or girl) who made an honest mistake. And normally, you might be able to coax a helping hand out of someone.
This, however, is New Eden. You are part of the harshest environment imaginable, where your success comes from your attention to details. You double check what each skill does before you triple check how much SP it costs you. You look at how to maximize your DPS while maintaining a high speed. And you look through the forums daily, constantly looking for another leg up on your competition.
That's the world I want to live in anyway.
TL;DR: I'm sorry for your mistakes, but that's just the nature of the game. There will almost certainly not be another re-allocation of skills.
And I completely understand that. I made a poor decision to try out a new combat style that in hindsight is not for me. I can certainly transition it towards something more to my liking and it will only cost me time and a small amount of frustration. Honestly that is a small price to pay for a game that I enjoy as much as I do.
I'm with you on there not being another respec on skills - but hey, thought I might try.
+1 good sir on your response however. |
Piercing Serenity
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
284
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Posted - 2013.05.06 20:18:00 -
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No problem Asmadai. The best way to figure out where to go next is to group with people and experiment with militia gear. My TV is gone until Wednesday, so I'm learning all of the ups and downs through friends, corp mates, etc. It makes it a lot easier to figure out what to do when you have a buddy to do it with.
A word of caution though: Read everything on the forums with a grain of salt. There will be a lot of "QQ Threads" up because of the drastic change some people have to the new build. That'll last about a month, (Two weeks for this part of the build and two weeks for PC), then the forums will be more or less normal.
Good luck out there. Happy hunting |
Asmadai
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
3
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Posted - 2013.05.06 20:22:00 -
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Thanks.
Ultimately it is only about 3.5 million SP that I might want back. It isn't a deal breaker, I just did not think things through as much as I would have liked. Again - my fault.
Best of luck to you too when your TV returns. |
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Infekti0n
One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas
1
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Posted - 2013.05.06 20:53:00 -
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I support this, how am i to know if the Amarr suit is worth it based on a set bonus i cant try with a new weapon, its a pretty big decision. The suit is based for these weapons but no info on how good they actually are compared to the other factions. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organization
2205
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:02:00 -
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I accidentally respecced back into Gallente scout when I should have picked Minmatar scout. But that's a mistake i'm willing to accept and keep. Hey, at least I can be stealthy. |
TODDSTER024
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
54
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:58:00 -
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I dont wan to spend another hour retraining the skill tree |
Kiiran-B
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
47
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:06:00 -
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Yes yes yes!
Respec for release! Start a petition! |
Asmadai
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:38:00 -
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Kiiran-B wrote:Yes yes yes!
Respec for release! Start a petition!
How would one go about that? I'm not sure I am up for being the one who screams the loudest for this. I'll put my name to it if another does though. Just was hoping a dev would get a glimpse of this and they'd consider it.
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Heavenly Daughter
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
72
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:38:00 -
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MacGoogles iS-me-name wrote:Asmadai wrote:Just a thought...but how about a second respec for skills on the 14. Given that new items are coming out and this could serve as an 8 day testing period for all of those who played in the beta.
I may also have selfish reasons such that I regret not going into scout suits and want to try again haha :P
Wouldn't be impossible or the worst thing in the world. true, guaranteed people have already chosen wrong skills, i only bought my AR skills so far :P
Personally I fear it's even worse than that, without a sharpshooter skill, people will be really surprised at how BAD each weapon is now, EVEN when FULLY spec'd into.
FYI, standard 4 point map with C and D under cover, shooting for C/D end under the MCC will now JUST make it past the first tower, not even half the map.
So I agree, I think this should be a trial period for a few day, I can see no harm in this.
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bacon blaster
VENGEANCE FOR HIRE
18
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:47:00 -
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Agreed, I want my points back. I invested into hmg, and now that I see how badly it was nerfed, I want a damn refund. |
Ankoku Daishogun
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:01:00 -
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I logged on to post a similar thread then found yours. I support your request. anyone else that does should hit the LIKE button for the OP.
people were bombarded with many options new skill names and layout. many made mistakes and regretted decisions. I have a friend that regrets putting points in the gallente assault instead of caldari for one example. All mighty DEVs, I implore you to be as generous as you have always been with us and grant us this wish. We gladly and proudly became your lab rats for a year, give us extra cheese please. |
Asmadai
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:12:00 -
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Ankoku Daishogun wrote:I logged on to post a similar thread then found yours. I support your request. anyone else that does should hit the LIKE button for the OP.
people were bombarded with many options new skill names and layout. many made mistakes and regretted decisions. I have a friend that regrets putting points in the gallente assault instead of caldari for one example. All mighty DEVs, I implore you to be as generous as you have always been with us and grant us this wish. We gladly and proudly became your lab rats for a year, give us extra cheese please.
Cheese is delicious...I would greatly appreciate more cheese...or just my SP back before the full release. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2713
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:17:00 -
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Spent a fair amount of SP on skills which are currently broken. Vehicle PG/CPU skills, mostly.
Not happy. I want a respec AND I want the skills fixed, because I'd already spent a decent amount of SP before realising I wasn't getting the benefit of those skills - would be nice to be able to actually start from scratch and only spend the SP I need in those skills. |
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Enervating
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:38:00 -
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oh dear gods please respect us on the 14'th
I went all out on laser rifles and an assault suit to match and at this rate, I don't even want to play they're so terrible now. Would love to spend my points on pretty much anything else. And I'm not too ashamed to beg, please CCP, I understand I was wrong to whatever I did to enrage you so. Can I please haz my sp?? |
PADDEhatpigen
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
2
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Posted - 2013.05.07 00:28:00 -
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Yes im all with you on this second respec.
I want one to as i to was a little to fast spending my SP to just go after the skills i had yesterday not realizing that the SP cost to get where i was is now way more expensive. It was a suprise to me that my 11 mill. SP was not enough to just get my Dropsuit, shield, armor, assault rifle skills, circuitry and enginering back to lvl 5
Also i trained to lvl 5 assault rifle and find out that the aiming system on it got nerfed again ( so now I can't hit anything whit it ) i would like to spend those SP points on something else.
So my avatar is kind of crap atm.
I don't like the new skill tree or what you call it, it's confusing and easy to make mistakes on. I like the god old way we all are so use to and know so well from EVE, The way it was yesterday ;) |
PADDEhatpigen
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
2
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Posted - 2013.05.07 00:47:00 -
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Piercing Serenity wrote:I'd be against that - another respec - on principle. I'm sorry that you spent your SP poorly. You're probably a good guy (or girl) who made an honest mistake. And normally, you might be able to coax a helping hand out of someone.
This, however, is New Eden. You are part of the harshest environment imaginable, where your success comes from your attention to details. You double check what each skill does before you triple check how much SP it costs you. You look at how to maximize your DPS while maintaining a high speed. And you look through the forums daily, constantly looking for another leg up on your competition.
That's the world I want to live in anyway.
TL;DR: I'm sorry for your mistakes, but that's just the nature of the game. There will almost certainly not be another re-allocation of skills.
First of all in EVE you don't look at SP cost in eve you look at skill book prices and the TIME it takes to train a skill. Also in EVE. CCP use to have a saying that goes " if you could fly it before, you can still fly it after " Or something like that.
This does not go for dust as i can't get the skills for the modules I used yesterday for the same amount of SP. |
Matakage
WildCard Ninja Clan
35
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Posted - 2013.05.07 01:08:00 -
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Piercing Serenity wrote:I'd be against that - another respec - on principle. I'm sorry that you spent your SP poorly. You're probably a good guy (or girl) who made an honest mistake. And normally, you might be able to coax a helping hand out of someone.
This, however, is New Eden. You are part of the harshest environment imaginable, where your success comes from your attention to details. You double check what each skill does before you triple check how much SP it costs you. You look at how to maximize your DPS while maintaining a high speed. And you look through the forums daily, constantly looking for another leg up on your competition.
That's the world I want to live in anyway.
TL;DR: I'm sorry for your mistakes, but that's just the nature of the game. There will almost certainly not be another re-allocation of skills. Oh, take your elitist HTFU mindset and shove it. This game is a work in progress and by no means perfect, so the least they can do is let people experiment with stuff. It's clear CCP barely knows what they're doing when it comes to balancing this game, so how would you expect anyone else to, especially new players? Also, I'm waiting until the 14th to spend points, so I have no personal stake in this. I just agree with the OP. |
NextDark Slougher
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2013.05.07 01:29:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2720
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Posted - 2013.05.07 01:32:00 -
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Piercing Serenity wrote:I'd be against that - another respec - on principle. I'm sorry that you spent your SP poorly. You're probably a good guy (or girl) who made an honest mistake. And normally, you might be able to coax a helping hand out of someone.
This, however, is New Eden. You are part of the harshest environment imaginable, where your success comes from your attention to details. You double check what each skill does before you triple check how much SP it costs you. You look at how to maximize your DPS while maintaining a high speed. And you look through the forums daily, constantly looking for another leg up on your competition.
That's the world I want to live in anyway.
TL;DR: I'm sorry for your mistakes, but that's just the nature of the game. There will almost certainly not be another re-allocation of skills. I skilled a decent way into the vehicle fitting skills. Tried to build a Sica, and found I was short on PG/CPU. I tried skilling further into my fitting skill to be able to create the fitting I wanted, went back, and found out that I had spend over half a million SP on skill that gave me ABSOLUTELY NONE OF THE EXTRA PG OR CPU THEY ADVERTISED.
I don't know what level I need those skills at for the fittings I want. I won't know until they're fixed. But I'm pretty sure I've trained further into them than I would have if they had been working.
If we don't get AT LEAST the broken skills refunded so we can skill into them AS NEEDED instead of having those points wasted, then there are problems. |
Jathniel
G I A N T EoN.
229
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Posted - 2013.05.07 02:27:00 -
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Yeah. We're all going to need a SP reset on the 14th.
I was trying to put some points into Amarr Mediums from the Marketplace but it ended up going into Minmater Mediums by accident....
Yeah I jacked up by sheer accident. The camera threw me off.
We really really need one more SP reset on the 14th. |
Sponglyboy Squaredoo
Not Guilty EoN.
10
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Posted - 2013.05.07 03:13:00 -
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At the moment, a second respec is one of alot im looking forward to when talking about changes in DUST 514 |
Phosis Norg
Mad Clone Posse
1
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Posted - 2013.05.07 04:28:00 -
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Piercing Serenity wrote:I'd be against that - another respec - on principle. I'm sorry that you spent your SP poorly. You're probably a good guy (or girl) who made an honest mistake. And normally, you might be able to coax a helping hand out of someone.
This, however, is New Eden. You are part of the harshest environment imaginable, where your success comes from your attention to details. You double check what each skill does before you triple check how much SP it costs you. You look at how to maximize your DPS while maintaining a high speed. And you look through the forums daily, constantly looking for another leg up on your competition.
That's the world I want to live in anyway.
TL;DR: I'm sorry for your mistakes, but that's just the nature of the game. There will almost certainly not be another re-allocation of skills.
I spent 2M on Calderi Logi suit. There was no way to know it was going to be florescent yellow on the battle field. Now I am a big slow moving, best target. I don't believe I spent my SP poorly. There wasn't a view of what the suit looks like. I was going on the specs of the suit and what I had to spend. I believe a shot at respec'ing would be fair. How would you feel if you invested 50% of your SP on a suit that you can't use? There was no warning that if you bought this suit, you would end your opportunity to play. |
137H4RGIC
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
27
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Posted - 2013.05.07 04:32:00 -
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For the heavy and the HMG My suggestions: Restore heavies to the way they were before chromosome (HMG included) then, take out their sprint. Accentuate their firepower, accentuate their immobility. As a heavy, I could live with this over what is currently in place any day. |
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