DUST Search - A Second Respec

skinn trayde wrote:

There are many ways that this can go,

1. Everyone gets to respec again on the 14th, all stuff is refunded AGAIN.
2. Everyone gets to respec again, but this time you have to keep what you have and deal with it.
3. Optional respec, and all stuff is refunded again.
4. Optional respec, keeping your current assets.
5. Nobody gets to respec and if you shovelled your points into things then tough.

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1. nobody really loses out, but you can guarantee whining.
2. only losses are to spent ISK/AUR
3 + 4. would cause QQ from some and joy from others.
5. QQ from some, HTFUs from others...

you can see how this goes...

Whatever happens, CCP do need to think about it hard and quickly, then respond to the concerns of all players.

This has been a major update to the game and many have either made rash decisions, drunken choices, and or misinformed guesses... We are all in this for the long haul (ok some are only in it until the next Battlefied of Duty), and we will all have to live or die by both our and CCPs decisions.


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Asmadai HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 3	Posted - 2013.05.06 19:48:00 - [1] - Quote Just a thought...but how about a second respec for skills on the 14. Given that new items are coming out and this could serve as an 8 day testing period for all of those who played in the beta. I may also have selfish reasons such that I regret not going into scout suits and want to try again haha :P Wouldn't be impossible or the worst thing in the world.
Asmadai HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 3	Posted - 2013.05.06 19:53:00 - [2] - Quote MacGoogles iS-me-name wrote: Asmadai wrote: Just a thought...but how about a second respec for skills on the 14. Given that new items are coming out and this could serve as an 8 day testing period for all of those who played in the beta. I may also have selfish reasons such that I regret not going into scout suits and want to try again haha :P Wouldn't be impossible or the worst thing in the world. true, guaranteed people have already chosen wrong skills, i only bought my AR skills so far :P It would be great to have 8 days of being able to experiment and then be able to move on. Don't even refund the items, just give people their SP back and they can deal with selling the gear they wont use when the open market goes online. I was one of the people who was stupid and thought I knew what I was doing.
Asmadai HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 3	Posted - 2013.05.06 20:02:00 - [3] - Quote ARF 1049 wrote: Asmadai wrote: Just a thought...but how about a second respec for skills on the 14. Given that new items are coming out and this could serve as an 8 day testing period for all of those who played in the beta. I may also have selfish reasons such that I regret not going into scout suits and want to try again haha :P Wouldn't be impossible or the worst thing in the world. +1 i was thinking of this but didn't really decide to post on it so it didn't use space Yeah, I fully expect to just be out of luck on this one. But someone might as well request it and see how CCP feels. My love for the game is strongest when I am running around in a scout suit with explosives.
Asmadai HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 3	Posted - 2013.05.06 20:11:00 - [4] - Quote Piercing Serenity wrote: I'd be against that - another respec - on principle. I'm sorry that you spent your SP poorly. You're probably a good guy (or girl) who made an honest mistake. And normally, you might be able to coax a helping hand out of someone. This, however, is New Eden. You are part of the harshest environment imaginable, where your success comes from your attention to details. You double check what each skill does before you triple check how much SP it costs you. You look at how to maximize your DPS while maintaining a high speed. And you look through the forums daily, constantly looking for another leg up on your competition. That's the world I want to live in anyway. TL;DR: I'm sorry for your mistakes, but that's just the nature of the game. There will almost certainly not be another re-allocation of skills. And I completely understand that. I made a poor decision to try out a new combat style that in hindsight is not for me. I can certainly transition it towards something more to my liking and it will only cost me time and a small amount of frustration. Honestly that is a small price to pay for a game that I enjoy as much as I do. I'm with you on there not being another respec on skills - but hey, thought I might try. +1 good sir on your response however.
Asmadai HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 3	Posted - 2013.05.06 20:22:00 - [5] - Quote Thanks. Ultimately it is only about 3.5 million SP that I might want back. It isn't a deal breaker, I just did not think things through as much as I would have liked. Again - my fault. Best of luck to you too when your TV returns.
Asmadai HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 7	Posted - 2013.05.06 22:38:00 - [6] - Quote Kiiran-B wrote: Yes yes yes! Respec for release! Start a petition! How would one go about that? I'm not sure I am up for being the one who screams the loudest for this. I'll put my name to it if another does though. Just was hoping a dev would get a glimpse of this and they'd consider it.
Asmadai HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 9	Posted - 2013.05.06 23:12:00 - [7] - Quote Ankoku Daishogun wrote: I logged on to post a similar thread then found yours. I support your request. anyone else that does should hit the LIKE button for the OP. people were bombarded with many options new skill names and layout. many made mistakes and regretted decisions. I have a friend that regrets putting points in the gallente assault instead of caldari for one example. All mighty DEVs, I implore you to be as generous as you have always been with us and grant us this wish. We gladly and proudly became your lab rats for a year, give us extra cheese please. Cheese is delicious...I would greatly appreciate more cheese...or just my SP back before the full release.
Asmadai HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 16	Posted - 2013.05.07 05:11:00 - [8] - Quote Things changed so dramatically between builds that it really was impossible realize how effective suits would be. I think a lot of people tried what they had before and found it was not the same, while others tried something new (such as myself) and made errors. We aren't owed anything but it would be excellent to be given this period to experiment and then allow the respec. I think a lot of people will actually look into more specialized margin roles too, which would serve as a good foundation for the game evolving. I'd even be willing to pay 100,000,000.00 ISK for a respec at this point, and since I would assume most people at a later stage of their character they have at least that available from all the salvage that was sold. I'm open to suggestions and compromise. I just can't see a downside to a respec where players can end up happier with no damage done to anyone.
Asmadai HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 29	Posted - 2013.05.07 15:42:00 - [9] - Quote skinn trayde wrote: There are many ways that this can go, 1. Everyone gets to respec again on the 14th, all stuff is refunded AGAIN. 2. Everyone gets to respec again, but this time you have to keep what you have and deal with it. 3. Optional respec, and all stuff is refunded again. 4. Optional respec, keeping your current assets. 5. Nobody gets to respec and if you shovelled your points into things then tough. - - 1. nobody really loses out, but you can guarantee whining. 2. only losses are to spent ISK/AUR 3 + 4. would cause QQ from some and joy from others. 5. QQ from some, HTFUs from others... you can see how this goes... Whatever happens, CCP do need to think about it hard and quickly, then respond to the concerns of all players. This has been a major update to the game and many have either made rash decisions, drunken choices, and or misinformed guesses... We are all in this for the long haul (ok some are only in it until the next Battlefied of Duty), and we will all have to live or die by both our and CCPs decisions. As someone who is for the long haul I know I'll find satisfaction with the game with or without the respec. I just know that I would appreciate it and enjoy the game itself more if we were allowed to make adjustments. I think the best solution would be to just respec the skills and leave all purchases IF the open market is upcoming in the full release. I appreciate your well thought-out reply of the options they have for a respec. +1
Asmadai HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 49	Posted - 2013.05.08 19:48:00 - [10] - Quote I can't see ANY downside to allowing for a second respec upon full release. The game changed drastically and because of people speccing into new and different things CCP is able to receive feedback on what may need to be broken or fixed. Our mistakes are leading to solutions and it would be fair to let us have another chance at selecting skills. Had the game updated so drastically after the full release I could understand if CCP was unwilling to allow for a respec. But as it was updated during beta I see no downside.

Asmadai HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 76	Posted - 2013.05.09 17:30:00 - [11] - Quote Hey, I'd like to direct everyone here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=775918#post775918 Looks as if the CPM had a meeting with CCP today to discuss a variety of matters and from that I'd say we will get one. Cheers!