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Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:02:00 -
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so it seems that we are going to have to waste alot of SP on may 6th when PC launchees.
in order to participate int he first week of PC (the most important week) you will HAVE to skill into weapons you may not be using after the 15th when the new weapons launch.
Now if you are going heavy into the scrambler rifle you are going to have to skill into another primary on the 6th if you want to have a decent weapon for the launch of PC.
you must now effectively waste skill points in order to have a fighting chance during the first week of launch.
why on earth did this seem like a good idea |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
311
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:04:00 -
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Just don't spec so heavily into those, okay? |
Schalac 17
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:05:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:so it seems that we are going to have to waste alot of SP on may 6th when PC launchees.
in order to participate int he first week of PC (the most important week) you will HAVE to skill into weapons you may not be using after the 15th when the new weapons launch.
Now if you are going heavy into the scrambler rifle you are going to have to skill into another primary on the 6th if you want to have a decent weapon for the launch of PC.
you must now effectively waste skill points in order to have a fighting chance during the first week of launch.
why on earth did this seem like a good idea Because no SP is wasted. You spec into what you want to do on the 6th for PC, then as more weapons are released you play more and then add SP into the next weapon system you with to specialize in. Thus making you more versatile on the battlefield, and not a single SP is wasted. |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:08:00 -
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Schalac 17 wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:so it seems that we are going to have to waste alot of SP on may 6th when PC launchees.
in order to participate int he first week of PC (the most important week) you will HAVE to skill into weapons you may not be using after the 15th when the new weapons launch.
Now if you are going heavy into the scrambler rifle you are going to have to skill into another primary on the 6th if you want to have a decent weapon for the launch of PC.
you must now effectively waste skill points in order to have a fighting chance during the first week of launch.
why on earth did this seem like a good idea Because no SP is wasted. You spec into what you want to do on the 6th for PC, then as more weapons are released you play more and then add SP into the next weapon system you with to specialize in. Thus making you more versatile on the battlefield, and not a single SP is wasted.
except if you never intend to use the galante assault rifle ever again, then every point into it IS wasted since the benifits dont carry over into anything else |
Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:10:00 -
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Then put points into weapons you DO intend to use, no one I know specs exclusively into one weapon. Or just use militia. |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1284
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:10:00 -
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Yup, as usual CCP manages to **** up the obvious. |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:11:00 -
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guys i realise that of course you dont have to skill into anything else, but doing so puts you at a disadvantage in quite literally the most important week of planetary conquest |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
312
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:12:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:Schalac 17 wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:so it seems that we are going to have to waste alot of SP on may 6th when PC launchees.
in order to participate int he first week of PC (the most important week) you will HAVE to skill into weapons you may not be using after the 15th when the new weapons launch.
Now if you are going heavy into the scrambler rifle you are going to have to skill into another primary on the 6th if you want to have a decent weapon for the launch of PC.
you must now effectively waste skill points in order to have a fighting chance during the first week of launch.
why on earth did this seem like a good idea Because no SP is wasted. You spec into what you want to do on the 6th for PC, then as more weapons are released you play more and then add SP into the next weapon system you with to specialize in. Thus making you more versatile on the battlefield, and not a single SP is wasted. except if you never intend to use the galante assault rifle ever again, then every point into it IS wasted since the benifits dont carry over into anything else
Then just suck it up and wait. |
P14GU3
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:13:00 -
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Run militia the first week. Problem solved.
Your dilemma is "suck" for a week and maybe hold districts after the 14th when all the easymode weapons that you so desire are available, or skill into one of the weapons that you know, but apparently aren't good enough for you, and conquer as much as you can, as fast as you can.
Ill do the latter, and stick to my mass driver. Before and after the 14th.
See you in the districts.. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:15:00 -
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It's not a problem, thanks to the 3X SP event, you will at the very least be able to re-creat the build you had before the event. You can then take the extra Sp and further improve that build in order to have a small advantage in PC, or you can wait and add more diversity to that build on the 14th.
Yes, it does put you at a slight disadvantage if you want to use the new weapons, but it's honestly not that big of a difference, because, some people already have 11 mill SP and any improvements they can make to their current build are minimal.
Also, keep in mind that this is a choice that you will have to make every time new suits, weapons, and vehicles get added, and that everyone has the same choice to make.
Edit: and I repeat, this will happen every time we get new content. |
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Nstomper
Disqualified
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:16:00 -
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Oh well if you make your choices, there isnt a problem , if you spec into something on the 6th but then you want to spec into something on the 14th but you do not have enough sp too then that is your fault you knew the stuff was coming yet you decided to go and sp happy and spend it on whatever , so again there isnt a problem with these 2 dates it is all about youe choice |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
54
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:16:00 -
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you have only a certain number of choices now
dont skill into a weapon your eventually not going to use and wait for the 15th, wich will mean you cant participate in PC in its most important first week
skill into a weapon you will never use again and waste SP
neither option is a good thing
and before you all get your panties in a bunch, im not personally using the scrambler rifle, im skilling back into the galante, but thats not the point
The point is this forces players to either waste SP on something that cannot benifit them after the first week, or sit the first week out and not be able to help their corp
wich in the case of smaller corps it will eliminate them from holding territory after the first few days of PC (unless they are very lucky) |
LoveNewlooy
WarRavens
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:17:00 -
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In may 6 didn't bother me much because I have enough hk. Shotgun to use w/o puting any sp on weapon at all |
Jotun Hiem
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
554
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:17:00 -
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I just want my Minmatar AR. ;-; |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
54
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:18:00 -
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if you want to hold territory in the first week, you literally dont get a choice, you MUST skill into the galante equivalent (assuming your an AR user)
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:19:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:you have only a certain number of choices now
dont skill into a weapon your eventually not going to use and wait for the 15th, wich will mean you cant participate in PC in its most important first week
skill into a weapon you will never use again and waste SP
neither option is a good thing
and before you all get your panties in a bunch, im not personally using the scrambler rifle, im skilling back into the galante, but thats not the point
The point is this forces players to either waste SP on something that cannot benifit them after the first week, or sit the first week out and not be able to help their corp
wich in the case of smaller corps it will eliminate them from holding territory after the first few days of PC (unless they are very lucky)
New options do not force players to do anything. |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:19:00 -
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Jotun Hiem wrote:I just want my Minmatar AR. ;-;
as a minmatar purist i feel that pain, at least it isnt as bad as the scrambler guys who now either have to sit out the first week or waste SP |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:20:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote: New options do not force players to do anything.
it does force them if they want to hold a planet int he first week |
Nstomper
Disqualified
245
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:20:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:you have only a certain number of choices now
dont skill into a weapon your eventually not going to use and wait for the 15th, wich will mean you cant participate in PC in its most important first week
skill into a weapon you will never use again and waste SP
neither option is a good thing
and before you all get your panties in a bunch, im not personally using the scrambler rifle, im skilling back into the galante, but thats not the point
The point is this forces players to either waste SP on something that cannot benifit them after the first week, or sit the first week out and not be able to help their corp
wich in the case of smaller corps it will eliminate them from holding territory after the first few days of PC (unless they are very lucky) It doesnt force you to do anything lol you dont even have to play untill the 18th if you are so concered about it , you make your own choices |
LXicon
VENGEANCE FOR HIRE
85
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:20:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:guys i realise that of course you dont have to skill into anything else, but doing so puts you at a disadvantage in quite literally the most important week of planetary conquest
i don't see how the first week is the most important. if anything, the first week will have the most districts taken without a fight! |
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1115
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:20:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:you have only a certain number of choices now
dont skill into a weapon your eventually not going to use and wait for the 15th, wich will mean you cant participate in PC in its most important first week
skill into a weapon you will never use again and waste SP
neither option is a good thing
and before you all get your panties in a bunch, im not personally using the scrambler rifle, im skilling back into the galante, but thats not the point
The point is this forces players to either waste SP on something that cannot benifit them after the first week, or sit the first week out and not be able to help their corp
wich in the case of smaller corps it will eliminate them from holding territory after the first few days of PC (unless they are very lucky) No it doesn't, the SP you will "waste" is minimal compared to the Sp most already have. Agiain, it will happen every time we get new content. people will either save Sp for the new stuff, or spend it on current stuff in order to further improve their current fittings. No problem at all. |
Delirium Inferno
Chernova Industries
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:21:00 -
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Yes it sucks, but one week isn't anything to cry over. Even if your corporation had no activity in the first week of PC, if y'all were any good anyways you'd be able to get a big chunk of districts with the week delay. Unfortunately nothing is going to change about this, but you'll be fine nonetheless. |
Nstomper
Disqualified
245
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:22:00 -
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The new players dont even have to participate in PC if they dont want to they can stay in high sec untull they get ready to move onto low sec PC |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
550
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:22:00 -
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You can't wait one week to start your plans for planetary conquest....because? |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:22:00 -
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LXicon wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:guys i realise that of course you dont have to skill into anything else, but doing so puts you at a disadvantage in quite literally the most important week of planetary conquest i don't see how the first week is the most important. if anything, the first week will have the most districts taken without a fight!
because as soon as day 3 hits certain corps will be launching attacks to flesh out their territory and if you dont bring your A game its not going to end well for you.
the first week is the most important because if all the territory is filled instead of a district costing you 80mil its going to start costing 240 mil and up to attack an occupied district |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
54
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:23:00 -
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IRuby Heart wrote:You can't wait one week to start your plans for planetary conquest....because? becuase then the price changes from 80mil to 80mil per clone pack per attack you make untill you take over a district meaning it will cost 240+mil |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:24:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:LXicon wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:guys i realise that of course you dont have to skill into anything else, but doing so puts you at a disadvantage in quite literally the most important week of planetary conquest i don't see how the first week is the most important. if anything, the first week will have the most districts taken without a fight! because as soon as day 3 hits certain corps will be launching attacks to flesh out their territory and if you dont bring your A game its not going to end well for you. the first week is the most important because if all the territory is filled instead of a district costing you 80mil its going to start costing 240 mil and up to attack an occupied district It's called making sacrifices. Bring your A game to PC in the first week, or wait so you can use the new weapons. |
Klivve Cussler
Ransoms Incorporated
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:26:00 -
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Do you think that the first week will be the most important? I don't.
Consider that we have about 250 districts. And let's say that there are 50 corps out there in a position to buy a pack of clones, 30 who can buy two packs, 15 that can buy three, and 5 that can buy five. I figure this is accurate +-50%.
So on May 6 (0 battles) 100 corps buy a district. No districts are previously occupied, so there are no battles. No battles means we don't care about scrambler rifle skill points.
May 7 (<20 battles) , 100 districts generate clones and 50 more districts are taken. Maybe there's a battle or two over key districts, but there are still 150 districts open, so probably not.
May 8 (<20 battles), 100 districts generate clones (and now have between 260 and 300 clones) 50 districts generate clones (and now have between 180 and 200 clones) 20 more districts are taken with clone packs (some battles, maybe)
May 9 (50-100 battles), 100 districts are bored and launch attacks, but many will be to unoccupied districts) 50 districts generate clones (260-300) 20 districts generate clones (180-200) 5 districts are taken with clone packs
May 10 (100+ battles) 200+ districts occupied 50% in a position to launch attacks Split 50% into unoccupied districts
May 11-14 (Game On) 250 districts occupied Late comers breaking in. Organized alliances crushing small alliances Hawaiian corps largely untouched
May 14 (Scrambler rifle)
So, while this week is important, by May 14 the mayhem will only be 3 days old. The first 4 days will be opening moves with few serious battles. (less than 170 spread over 100 corps) So I think you'll be able to cope having spec'ed to scrambler rifle off the bat.
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:27:00 -
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If you cant use and do well in militia then my friend maybe FPS's aint your thing. |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
55
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:30:00 -
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Klivve Cussler wrote:Do you think that the first week will be the most important? I don't.
Consider that we have about 250 districts. And let's say that there are 50 corps out there in a position to buy a pack of clones, 30 who can buy two packs, 15 that can buy three, and 5 that can buy five. I figure this is accurate +-50%.
So on May 6 (0 battles) 100 corps buy a district. No districts are previously occupied, so there are no battles. No battles means we don't care about scrambler rifle skill points.
May 7 (<20 battles) , 100 districts generate clones and 50 more districts are taken. Maybe there's a battle or two over key districts, but there are still 150 districts open, so probably not.
May 8 (<20 battles), 100 districts generate clones (and now have between 260 and 300 clones) 50 districts generate clones (and now have between 180 and 200 clones) 20 more districts are taken with clone packs (some battles, maybe)
May 9 (50-100 battles), 100 districts are bored and launch attacks, but many will be to unoccupied districts) 50 districts generate clones (260-300) 20 districts generate clones (180-200) 5 districts are taken with clone packs
May 10 (100+ battles) 200+ districts occupied 50% in a position to launch attacks Split 50% into unoccupied districts
May 11-14 (Game On) 250 districts occupied Late comers breaking in. Organized alliances crushing small alliances Hawaiian corps largely untouched
May 14 (Scrambler rifle)
So, while this week is important, by May 14 the mayhem will only be 3 days old. The first 4 days will be opening moves with few serious battles. (less than 170 spread over 100 corps) So I think you'll be able to cope having spec'ed to scrambler rifle off the bat.
i really do like the amount of thought put into this
i just dont think that there are going to be any unocuped districts after day 1 |
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