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Chances Ghost
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:02:00 -
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so it seems that we are going to have to waste alot of SP on may 6th when PC launchees.
in order to participate int he first week of PC (the most important week) you will HAVE to skill into weapons you may not be using after the 15th when the new weapons launch.
Now if you are going heavy into the scrambler rifle you are going to have to skill into another primary on the 6th if you want to have a decent weapon for the launch of PC.
you must now effectively waste skill points in order to have a fighting chance during the first week of launch.
why on earth did this seem like a good idea |
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:08:00 -
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Schalac 17 wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:so it seems that we are going to have to waste alot of SP on may 6th when PC launchees.
in order to participate int he first week of PC (the most important week) you will HAVE to skill into weapons you may not be using after the 15th when the new weapons launch.
Now if you are going heavy into the scrambler rifle you are going to have to skill into another primary on the 6th if you want to have a decent weapon for the launch of PC.
you must now effectively waste skill points in order to have a fighting chance during the first week of launch.
why on earth did this seem like a good idea Because no SP is wasted. You spec into what you want to do on the 6th for PC, then as more weapons are released you play more and then add SP into the next weapon system you with to specialize in. Thus making you more versatile on the battlefield, and not a single SP is wasted.
except if you never intend to use the galante assault rifle ever again, then every point into it IS wasted since the benifits dont carry over into anything else |
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:11:00 -
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guys i realise that of course you dont have to skill into anything else, but doing so puts you at a disadvantage in quite literally the most important week of planetary conquest |
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:16:00 -
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you have only a certain number of choices now
dont skill into a weapon your eventually not going to use and wait for the 15th, wich will mean you cant participate in PC in its most important first week
skill into a weapon you will never use again and waste SP
neither option is a good thing
and before you all get your panties in a bunch, im not personally using the scrambler rifle, im skilling back into the galante, but thats not the point
The point is this forces players to either waste SP on something that cannot benifit them after the first week, or sit the first week out and not be able to help their corp
wich in the case of smaller corps it will eliminate them from holding territory after the first few days of PC (unless they are very lucky) |
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:18:00 -
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if you want to hold territory in the first week, you literally dont get a choice, you MUST skill into the galante equivalent (assuming your an AR user)
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:19:00 -
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Jotun Hiem wrote:I just want my Minmatar AR. ;-;
as a minmatar purist i feel that pain, at least it isnt as bad as the scrambler guys who now either have to sit out the first week or waste SP |
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:20:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote: New options do not force players to do anything.
it does force them if they want to hold a planet int he first week |
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:22:00 -
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LXicon wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:guys i realise that of course you dont have to skill into anything else, but doing so puts you at a disadvantage in quite literally the most important week of planetary conquest i don't see how the first week is the most important. if anything, the first week will have the most districts taken without a fight!
because as soon as day 3 hits certain corps will be launching attacks to flesh out their territory and if you dont bring your A game its not going to end well for you.
the first week is the most important because if all the territory is filled instead of a district costing you 80mil its going to start costing 240 mil and up to attack an occupied district |
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:23:00 -
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IRuby Heart wrote:You can't wait one week to start your plans for planetary conquest....because? becuase then the price changes from 80mil to 80mil per clone pack per attack you make untill you take over a district meaning it will cost 240+mil |
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:30:00 -
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Klivve Cussler wrote:Do you think that the first week will be the most important? I don't.
Consider that we have about 250 districts. And let's say that there are 50 corps out there in a position to buy a pack of clones, 30 who can buy two packs, 15 that can buy three, and 5 that can buy five. I figure this is accurate +-50%.
So on May 6 (0 battles) 100 corps buy a district. No districts are previously occupied, so there are no battles. No battles means we don't care about scrambler rifle skill points.
May 7 (<20 battles) , 100 districts generate clones and 50 more districts are taken. Maybe there's a battle or two over key districts, but there are still 150 districts open, so probably not.
May 8 (<20 battles), 100 districts generate clones (and now have between 260 and 300 clones) 50 districts generate clones (and now have between 180 and 200 clones) 20 more districts are taken with clone packs (some battles, maybe)
May 9 (50-100 battles), 100 districts are bored and launch attacks, but many will be to unoccupied districts) 50 districts generate clones (260-300) 20 districts generate clones (180-200) 5 districts are taken with clone packs
May 10 (100+ battles) 200+ districts occupied 50% in a position to launch attacks Split 50% into unoccupied districts
May 11-14 (Game On) 250 districts occupied Late comers breaking in. Organized alliances crushing small alliances Hawaiian corps largely untouched
May 14 (Scrambler rifle)
So, while this week is important, by May 14 the mayhem will only be 3 days old. The first 4 days will be opening moves with few serious battles. (less than 170 spread over 100 corps) So I think you'll be able to cope having spec'ed to scrambler rifle off the bat.
i really do like the amount of thought put into this
i just dont think that there are going to be any unocuped districts after day 1 |
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:30:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:If you cant use and do well in militia then my friend maybe FPS's aint your thing. but its not bringing your A game, and it will put you at a disadvantage no matter how good you are |
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Posted - 2013.04.29 22:07:00 -
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Kiro Justice wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:guys i realise that of course you dont have to skill into anything else, but doing so puts you at a disadvantage in quite literally the most important week of planetary conquest So out of your entire Corp, you don't have ANYONE who wants to use the stuff that's already out? (Never mind we're only getting a few new weapon types) You ALL want to use the same 5 types of weapons? And you really can't spare 16 people who want to use some of the stuff we already have? read the thread, im personally sticking with the galante assault rifle, this actually doesnt effect me in the slightest |
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Posted - 2013.04.29 22:47:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:Kiro Justice wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:guys i realise that of course you dont have to skill into anything else, but doing so puts you at a disadvantage in quite literally the most important week of planetary conquest So out of your entire Corp, you don't have ANYONE who wants to use the stuff that's already out? (Never mind we're only getting a few new weapon types) You ALL want to use the same 5 types of weapons? And you really can't spare 16 people who want to use some of the stuff we already have? read the thread, im personally sticking with the galante assault rifle, this actually doesnt effect me in the slightest It does actually, because your gear's counter might come on the 14th, and then you'll regret choosing so quickly.
no it doesnt, not even in the slightest, as i do not want the scrambler rifle at all, ever |
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Posted - 2013.04.30 01:34:00 -
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Skipper Jones wrote:Or just not play dust for a week until the FULL uprising is released. Like myself
not an option for those that have to run planetary conquest week 1
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Posted - 2013.04.30 01:42:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:Skipper Jones wrote:Or just not play dust for a week until the FULL uprising is released. Like myself not an option for those that have to run planetary conquest week 1 You'er thinking too small, just cause you snag a district in week 1 doesn't mean you'll get to keep it very long.
and having to use militia weapons the first week is going to make that harder (its either that or potentially waste SP)
i think your thinking to small in underestimating the importance of week 1 |
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Posted - 2013.04.30 01:50:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:Skipper Jones wrote:Or just not play dust for a week until the FULL uprising is released. Like myself not an option for those that have to run planetary conquest week 1 You'er thinking too small, just cause you snag a district in week 1 doesn't mean you'll get to keep it very long. and having to use militia weapons the first week is going to make that harder (its either that or potentially waste SP) i think your thinking to small in underestimating the importance of week 1 I'm just letting you know that a slight advantage in the first week won't mean much in the long run.
consider that after the districts are taken the cost inscreases from 80mil to 240+mil cost of the attack. its also when the battle lines will be drawn and the alliances will be getting a foothold and start slugging it out to maintain their borders, once everyone settles in it wont be as chaotic and messy but that first week of fighting is the key to gaining a footing for the first while.
of course your always welcome to wait 2 months for the dust to settle and try your luck then, but again its going to cost you about 300mil to do
once the cloans start building up in teh districts its going to be ALOT harder to gain a foothold if you dont already have one.
if you dont bring your A-game on that first weel you risk losing everything as it starts and so you must skill into a weapon and if your builing towards a srambler setup, then your going to be gimped even if you waste skillpoints in another weapon |
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Posted - 2013.04.30 02:11:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Chances Ghost wrote: if you dont bring your A-game on that first weel you risk losing everything as it starts and so you must skill into a weapon and if your builing towards a srambler setup, then your going to be gimped even if you waste skillpoints in another weapon
Your corp should be big enough that you will have enough (good)players who won't be skilllng into the new weapons, and like I said before, this is a dilemma that everyone will face, so not everyone will be able to bring their A-game anyway. I guarantee you that there are Pink Fluffy, Cronos, and Negative Feedback players that also want to use the new weapons, this will be a choice all corps have to make, and continue to make in the future, though that won't really matter as much as it will in these first few days/weeks.
my corp isnt efected by this, but it IS a problem |
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Posted - 2013.04.30 02:32:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:If it's a problem for everyone, then it's not actually a problem Really wishing I had some Alts with SP right about now...
by that logic there will never be any problems in the game as any problem that exists wont affect everyone. and a problem that effects everyone is still a problem. (think of hit detection, lag, DCs, all a problem for everyone, and all still problems despite effecting everyone) |
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Posted - 2013.04.30 02:40:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:If it's a problem for everyone, then it's not actually a problem Really wishing I had some Alts with SP right about now... by that logic there will never be any problems in the game as any problem that exists wont affect everyone. I should have worded that differently, it's not a problem, just a situation that everyone will go through. Even if Scrambler rifles were available on the 6th, people still wouldn't be able to bring their A game since no one actually knows how to properly use them yet. The same is true for the weapons we have now, since they will be changing. So no, no problem at all.
its a choice that only a portion of the player base have to make, its a sacrafice that not all players have to concider, its not a balanced fair aproch to a release
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Posted - 2013.04.30 11:53:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:If the first week was the be all and end all of which is basically what your implying then the whole concept is PC is critical flawed and will needed to be reworked. But it's not the only thing the first day does is yay free area. And even that will be short lived. this is frankly a non issue ur making out to be a huge thing. U have three choices no-one is forced its up to u decided which one to tak frankly I would wait out of first week and the pounce on the weaklings or winners who are two badly damage to continue
FACT: it is more advantageous ISK wise to start PC on day one, and it will be ALOT more expensive to take land after day 1 FACT: day 1 is the best time to start PC FACT: not everyone can have a district FACT: almost everyone who has the ability to buy clone packs will be trying to claim and hold a district within the first week FACT: it is easyer to defend than to attack FACT: the first week will be the best time to try to claim a district (even if you dont get one on day 1) as it will be new, people will be disorganized and weak, districts wont be clone capped and making income for corps yet
so week one is the best time to try to get a district as it will be ALOT harder to do after that
this is pretty much common knowledge amung those of us doing planning for our corps and aliances
what this means is that everyone who knows their **** is going to have to bring their A game becuase week one is going to be the most dangerous time.
wich means if your one of the guys in your corps/alliances A team of professionals you DO NOT have the option for wait to skill into the scrambler rifle.
meaning those people who intend to use the scrambler rifle instead of the gallante AR are going to have to get the gallante AR anyways even if they will never use it again after week 1 and if they dont they will be at a huge disadvantage against all the proto weapons on the opposite side
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Posted - 2013.04.30 11:55:00 -
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Natu Nobilis wrote:DEAR LORD, a whole week between 6 and 14 will ruin this game and destroy the minds, SP and conquests of the player base. No one shall ever use the weapons they want anymore, the world will fall apart and the status quo is shatered forever. Do cry more.
you may want to read the thread before you troll.... this doesn't even effect me as im skilling into the galante AR and wont touch the scrambler rifle with a 10 foot pole, |
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Posted - 2013.04.30 11:59:00 -
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Aran Abbas wrote:Yesterday I killed someone in proto gear using an alt with NO weapon skills at all. He was packing an AR of some sort and belonged to some big badass corp and I was packing the militia SMG. It was just the two of us out in the open. We strafed each other till we both ran out of bullets and I had the mind to rush him and dance in circles. You can do alright with militia and no skills against even proto players. but you would do alot better WITH a proto weapon |
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Posted - 2013.04.30 12:00:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:6th -> 14th = 8day gap
Meaning at least 500k of SP can be saved up for the new weapons or you can also hold off from spending every last SP you have
I really dont see a problem here
imagine it like you lose 800k+ SP and never get it back OR walk into PC using militia weapons on week 1 when your corp is counting on you
both are terrible choices that a few people are going to have to make |
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Posted - 2013.04.30 12:06:00 -
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Natu Nobilis wrote:Wasn-¦t trolling, only sarcasm.
Yes, there-¦ll be a land grab rush in the beggining, yes there are differences on the mechanics as a whole, on the possibilities of weapons, on the skills to be invested for them.
In EVE when wormholes were launched, it was a completely foreign mechanic and gameplay, and yet, people made it by TRIAL AND ERROR.
As everything new, there will be those that took their chances and risks, those that put a lot and earned a lot, and those that failed miserably.
If you are unwilling to invest SP into something that you don-¦t know, than DON-¦T. Wait like everyone else who-¦s goign to let the risk takers do all the trial and error, and you get a polished clean path to follow.
Just remember that those same testers are the ones that are going to reap the rewards FIRST, because they had the balls to take chances.
You know, like real life.
i think youve completly missed the problem
there is no risk... it boils down to
use militia weapons during week one and gimp yourself, or lose 800k SP and never get it back
there is no skilling into something you dont know, ther is no risk taking involved....
its a simple "if you want a scrambler rifle primary and you want to compete in PC during week one you now have to make this lose lose decision" |
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Posted - 2013.04.30 12:10:00 -
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Aran Abbas wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:Aran Abbas wrote:Yesterday I killed someone in proto gear using an alt with NO weapon skills at all. He was packing an AR of some sort and belonged to some big badass corp and I was packing the militia SMG. It was just the two of us out in the open. We strafed each other till we both ran out of bullets and I had the mind to rush him and dance in circles. You can do alright with militia and no skills against even proto players. but you would do alot better WITH a proto weapon I absolutely would, but I'm cheap and don't want to be like those elite players who approach something that should be fun like it's a job. I like to run people over and suicide my free LAV into other vehicles. That kind of silliness will keep me in this game longer than any kind of proto gear.
and thats the gear your going to bring to PC battles in defence of your district???
of course it isnt, your going to go all out proto to give yourself every advantage possable because your district is on the line. |
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Posted - 2013.04.30 12:12:00 -
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i have this feeling that people dont actually read threads before they comment
to test this if youve read this please insert the word "bacon" in posts so we can see if anyones actually paying attention to the discussion or they are to making **** up to sound smart |
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Posted - 2013.04.30 12:20:00 -
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Aran Abbas wrote:
This is not actually the case for me. It's certainly the case for a lot of people, but I intend to run Standard gear for PC - a lot of which are the readily available BPO's purchased with AUR from the Mercenary Pack or gained from events. The rest will be purchased with ISK. Like I said, I'm cheap. The only way I'd go proto is if some EVE corp was paying for it.
I will never turn this game into a job, because then I would have to abandon it.
you wont be able to hold a distrcit, if you want a district your going to have to go proto to keep it.
so those people whose goal in the game is to hold territory (because that to them is fun) will be faced with a lose lose situation.
it doesnt apply to you because you dont want to hold a district if it means having to run in proto gear |
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Posted - 2013.04.30 12:22:00 -
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Natu Nobilis wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:i have this feeling that people dont actually read threads before they comment
to test this if youve read this please insert the word "bacon" in posts so we can see if anyones actually paying attention to the discussion or they are to making **** up to sound smart Bacon. Bacon. Bacon. "in order to participate int he first week of PC (the most important week) you will HAVE to skill into weapons you may not be using after the 15th when the new weapons launch."You don-¦t HAVE to do ANYTHING. "Now if you are going heavy into the scrambler rifle you are going to have to skill into another primary on the 6th if you want to have a decent weapon for the launch of PC."If you think it-¦s a decent weapon, than TRAIN for it !!!! "you must now effectively waste skill points in order to have a fighting chance during the first week of launch."Either INVEST the SP for the thing you want, or WAIT and deal with the consequences of waiting. What is so hard on this subject?
its a lose lose situation that only puts you at a disadvantage, its not a level playing field and its bad game design. and in competitive play that kind of disadvantage is terrible terrible design
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Posted - 2013.04.30 12:24:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:6th -> 14th = 8day gap
Meaning at least 500k of SP can be saved up for the new weapons or you can also hold off from spending every last SP you have
I really dont see a problem here imagine it like you lose 800k+ SP and never get it back OR walk into PC using militia weapons on week 1 when your corp is counting on you both are terrible choices that a few people are going to have to make But you dont lose 800k SP and the majority of ppl wont be walking into PC with milita
if your never going to use the other weapon than its the same thing as losing those skill points |
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Natu Nobilis wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:Aran Abbas wrote:
This is not actually the case for me. It's certainly the case for a lot of people, but I intend to run Standard gear for PC - a lot of which are the readily available BPO's purchased with AUR from the Mercenary Pack or gained from events. The rest will be purchased with ISK. Like I said, I'm cheap. The only way I'd go proto is if some EVE corp was paying for it.
I will never turn this game into a job, because then I would have to abandon it.
you wont be able to hold a distrcit, if you want a district your going to have to go proto to keep it. so those people whose goal in the game is to hold territory (because that to them is fun) will be faced with a lose lose situation. it doesnt apply to you because you dont want to hold a district if it means having to run in proto gear Why do you assume proto gear is auto win ?
its not auto win, but any team not using proto gear will be at a huge disadvantage. and why on earth would you handycap yourself in the most important week |
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Posted - 2013.04.30 12:28:00 -
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Natu Nobilis wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:
its a lose lose situation that only puts you at a disadvantage, its not a level playing field and its bad game design. and in competitive play that kind of disadvantage is terrible terrible design
If it-¦s indeed a lose lose situation, than EVERYONE that CHOSE this path will be EQUALLY in LOSS. That IS the level playing field, EVERYONE getting screwed up equally. Is the acess to weapons via the future skilltree designed well? Questionable. I agree with you in that. Does it create a disavantage for some people and not others? NO. Will this impact PC? Only if you want it to.
not everyone has to make the choice, meaning everyone isnt losing equily, meaning its not a level playing field, meaning it creates a disadvantage to some people and not others |
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Posted - 2013.04.30 12:29:00 -
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Aran Abbas wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:you wont be able to hold a distrcit, if you want a district your going to have to go proto to keep it.
so those people whose goal in the game is to hold territory (because that to them is fun) will be faced with a lose lose situation.
it doesnt apply to you because you dont want to hold a district if it means having to run in proto gear One man does not make or break a district. This may not be the best example, but as a sniper guy using a militia rifle or laser guy using the basic isk gun, in your typical ambush match I can kill 8+ people. Double that in a skirmish. Essentially, I've done 10% of the killing. Some are newbies, and some are proto suits like the proto suit proto weapon sniper I killed twice yesterday by being a sneaky bastard. He got me eventually, but I lost nothing. Superior tactics, teamwork, and thinking will always overcome superior equipment alone.
and all those being equal the team in proto will win |
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:I tend to share the feeling about PC starting may 6th being a bad idea. But tbh, my concerns arent so much about people and their wish to skill into new weapons that will only be added may 14th.
My main concern is about people mass-downloading Uprising and thus DL time acting as a factor in who gets what day one of PC. Then, you have to consider possible bugs and glitches unknown to CCP that may appear when the build is actually live.
Would make more sense to wait a while and see if everything is ok with the game. Past experiences showed that every build so far needed fix in the days following its release so playing it safe strikes me as a good idea. WIth that in mind, waiting till the 14th or even the 15th doesnt sound that bad.
I started discussing it with my fellow CPM members last day at FF (well, with Kane at least), let's see how that turns out.
this is also going to be a huge factor as well, and im glad its being looked into |
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Posted - 2013.04.30 12:31:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:
How is it?
If you never use weapon x then you never put any SP into it so you lose nothing
go read the thread and you will be less confused |
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Posted - 2013.04.30 12:34:00 -
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Natu Nobilis wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:
not everyone has to make the choice, meaning everyone isnt losing equily, meaning its not a level playing field, meaning it creates a disadvantage to some people and not others
Wha?Sorry mate, really can-¦t folow your train of tought.
only the people who intend to use the scrambler rifle as their primary exclusivly have to make this choice, meaning they are at a disadvantage compaired to everyone else who isnt going to use the scrambler rifle |
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Posted - 2013.04.30 12:35:00 -
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Aran Abbas wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:and all those being equal the team in proto will win It's a cliche, but winning isn't everything. Seriously, don't turn this game into a job, you'll regret it. Call in some free LAV's, run some mans over, have fun. That's worth more in the long run than any digital territory ever could be. I learnt that lesson the hard way from EVE.
it is some people idea of fun (aka not a job)
its ok if its not your idea of fun though, thats just fine. just keep in mind that it is fun to others |
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Posted - 2013.04.30 12:39:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Aran Abbas wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:and all those being equal the team in proto will win It's a cliche, but winning isn't everything. Seriously, don't turn this game into a job, you'll regret it. Call in some free LAV's, run some mans over, have fun. That's worth more in the long run than any digital territory ever could be. I learnt that lesson the hard way from EVE. Ah someone who thinks "his" fun is THE universal type of fun everyone likes? It's not like we are all identical clones....right?
indeed
its like the people who dont understand that some people find making spreadsheets for mundane things fun |
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Posted - 2013.04.30 12:43:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:
How is it?
If you never use weapon x then you never put any SP into it so you lose nothing
go read the thread and you will be less confused Im not confused but you are Your making a problem where ther isnt one
it is a problem for some people |
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Posted - 2013.04.30 21:01:00 -
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Aran Abbas wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:Aran Abbas wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:and all those being equal the team in proto will win It's a cliche, but winning isn't everything. Seriously, don't turn this game into a job, you'll regret it. Call in some free LAV's, run some mans over, have fun. That's worth more in the long run than any digital territory ever could be. I learnt that lesson the hard way from EVE. Ah someone who thinks "his" fun is THE universal type of fun everyone likes? It's not like we are all identical clones....right? Running people over is objectively more fun than making spreadsheets about the perfect fit. Objectively.
i think you meant to say subjectivly
as making spreadsheets to find the perfect fit is one of the most enjoyable activities in the game for me.
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Posted - 2013.04.30 21:05:00 -
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Ivan Avogadro wrote:
it's more of a disadvantage to someone who wants to run heavy and has no choice but Amarr. Or someone who wants to run a different Assault race. Skilling up Dropsuits costs way more SP than one weapon, and dropsuit to proto level is how you get the survivability to compete.
You will do much better with a STD or ADV AR and a Protosuit you like, than someone in an Adv suit they hate with a Protogun. Either way, decide what is most important to you and go with it. In 6 months, you'll have all your PRO gear and you'll be bringing the pain in PC fights daily. You won't even remember Week 1.
no bacon= you diddnt read the thread
let me repeat this again then
im not specing scrambler rifle, i never want to use it, and this entire thread doesnt effect me in the slightest
also i have 10mil sp and can pretty much walk in the game on the 6th with multiple proto suits and weapons so to me i wouldnt even care about the SP
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