its a lose lose situation that only puts you at a disadvantage, its not a level playing field and its bad game design. and in competitive play that kind of disadvantage is terrible terrible design

you wont be able to hold a distrcit, if you want a district your going to have to go proto to keep it.

so those people whose goal in the game is to hold territory (because that to them is fun) will be faced with a lose lose situation.


it doesnt apply to you because you dont want to hold a district if it means having to run in proto gear

If it-¦s indeed a lose lose situation, than EVERYONE that CHOSE this path will be EQUALLY in LOSS.
That IS the level playing field, EVERYONE getting screwed up equally.

Is the acess to weapons via the future skilltree designed well? Questionable. I agree with you in that.

Does it create a disavantage for some people and not others? NO.

Will this impact PC? Only if you want it to.

Then put points into weapons you DO intend to use, no one I know specs exclusively into one weapon.
Or just use militia.

One man does not make or break a district.

This may not be the best example, but as a sniper guy using a militia rifle or laser guy using the basic isk gun, in your typical ambush match I can kill 8+ people. Double that in a skirmish. Essentially, I've done 10% of the killing. Some are newbies, and some are proto suits like the proto suit proto weapon sniper I killed twice yesterday by being a sneaky bastard. He got me eventually, but I lost nothing.

Superior tactics, teamwork, and thinking will always overcome superior equipment alone.

if your never going to use the other weapon than its the same thing as losing those skill points

I tend to share the feeling about PC starting may 6th being a bad idea. But tbh, my concerns arent so much about people and their wish to skill into new weapons that will only be added may 14th.

My main concern is about people mass-downloading Uprising and thus DL time acting as a factor in who gets what day one of PC. Then, you have to consider possible bugs and glitches unknown to CCP that may appear when the build is actually live.

Would make more sense to wait a while and see if everything is ok with the game. Past experiences showed that every build so far needed fix in the days following its release so playing it safe strikes me as a good idea. WIth that in mind, waiting till the 14th or even the 15th doesnt sound that bad.

I started discussing it with my fellow CPM members last day at FF (well, with Kane at least), let's see how that turns out.

How is it?

If you never use weapon x then you never put any SP into it so you lose nothing

not everyone has to make the choice, meaning everyone isnt losing equily, meaning its not a level playing field, meaning it creates a disadvantage to some people and not others

and all those being equal the team in proto will win

Wha?

Sorry mate, really can-¦t folow your train of tought.

It's a cliche, but winning isn't everything. Seriously, don't turn this game into a job, you'll regret it. Call in some free LAV's, run some mans over, have fun. That's worth more in the long run than any digital territory ever could be. I learnt that lesson the hard way from EVE.

It's a cliche, but winning isn't everything. Seriously, don't turn this game into a job, you'll regret it. Call in some free LAV's, run some mans over, have fun. That's worth more in the long run than any digital territory ever could be. I learnt that lesson the hard way from EVE.

Ah someone who thinks "his" fun is THE universal type of fun everyone likes? It's not like we are all identical clones....right?

only the people who intend to use the scrambler rifle as their primary exclusivly have to make this choice, meaning they are at a disadvantage compaired to everyone else who isnt going to use the scrambler rifle

go read the thread and you will be less confused

Im not confused but you are

Your making a problem where ther isnt one

Im not confused but you are

Your making a problem where ther isnt one

Ah someone who thinks "his" fun is THE universal type of fun everyone likes? It's not like we are all identical clones....right?

only the people who intend to use the scrambler rifle as their primary exclusivly have to make this choice, meaning they are at a disadvantage compaired to everyone else who isnt going to use the scrambler rifle

so it seems that we are going to have to waste alot of SP on may 6th when PC launchees.

in order to participate int he first week of PC (the most important week) you will HAVE to skill into weapons you may not be using after the 15th when the new weapons launch.

Now if you are going heavy into the scrambler rifle you are going to have to skill into another primary on the 6th if you want to have a decent weapon for the launch of PC.


you must now effectively waste skill points in order to have a fighting chance during the first week of launch.



why on earth did this seem like a good idea

wait who said the new weapons wouldn't launch may 6th?

Then put points into weapons you DO intend to use, no one I know specs exclusively into one weapon.
Or just use militia.

I'm not spending any SP until after May 14th. I'll roll in all militia gear and wait to see what others say about the rail rifle after the 14th and let others test out the caldari scout on the 6th. Treat it like a new Windows release.

not everyone has to make the choice, meaning everyone isnt losing equily, meaning its not a level playing field, meaning it creates a disadvantage to some people and not others