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BursegSardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.01 15:20:00 -
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Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:New players need to understand that I have spent 3 months grinding so that I can have an advantage over them. They could have done the same, all they had to do was download the Beta, didn't feel like putting up with this "crappy" game? That's too damn bad, I did put up with, now prepare to get stomped.
TL:DR, "Fairness" can suck it. Have fun playing with the like 12 other people who share the same elitist mindset as you for the next 2 years.
The thing I love about Dust-hate from well-established, revered/feared/hated groups is it gives a my little Alliance more credibility. We've all been playing Dust for less than a year, a lot of these Dust corps are only a couple months old, a lot of the Dust Alliances are the same age. My corp has been around since '07 and my Alliance since '09. We haven't gone anywhere and we won't be going anywhere.
If/When all the CoD/Bungie fanboys jump ship, I certainly am not going anywhere.... partly because I'm a CCP fanboy, but mostly because I love Dust and EVE and keep my eyes to the future. So when all the youngster Dust Alliances failcascade and split into the established EVE ones, you can count Tso's in that number that will remain. |
BursegSardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.01 15:44:00 -
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Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:BursegSardaukar wrote:Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:New players need to understand that I have spent 3 months grinding so that I can have an advantage over them. They could have done the same, all they had to do was download the Beta, didn't feel like putting up with this "crappy" game? That's too damn bad, I did put up with, now prepare to get stomped.
TL:DR, "Fairness" can suck it. Have fun playing with the like 12 other people who share the same elitist mindset as you for the next 2 years. The thing I love about Dust-hate from well-established, revered/feared/hated groups is it gives a my little Alliance more credibility. We've all been playing Dust for less than a year, a lot of these Dust corps are only a couple months old, a lot of the Dust Alliances are the same age. My corp has been around since '07 and my Alliance since '09. We haven't gone anywhere and we won't be going anywhere. If/When all the CoD/Bungie fanboys jump ship, I certainly am not going anywhere.... partly because I'm a CCP fanboy, but mostly because I love Dust and EVE and keep my eyes to the future. So when all the youngster Dust Alliances failcascade and split into the established EVE ones, you can count Tso's in that number that will remain. Scanners detect neckbeard fanboi. Perhaps you should ask yourself if you were the target demo why isn't this game on PC? Did you buy a PS3 just for dust too, its okay we know many of you neckbeards did
CCP didn't want to cannibalize their existing fan base, or so they claim. I'm fairly convinced back room deals were made with lots of money exchanged, I'm not sure why anyone would develop a shooter for a console to be completely honest. At least they have KB/M support.
And yup, PS3 just for Dust, TV as well. Didn't have much use for either before.
I also keep my neckbeard tightly braided, it can pass as a necktie. |
BursegSardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.01 16:36:00 -
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Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:
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I completely admit in my original statement that people will leave this when a new game comes. It doesn't even need to be better, it just has to be new.
The same thing happens in EVE: when a new, flashy MMO, usually scifi-themed, comes along, players go and try it, get level 60, realize it sucks and come back. Some only come back when there are expansions, but the subscriber base has been growing steadily since EVE went live, so there must be something added that hooks new players every time.
What I was explaining in my original statement was that when the CoD fanboys jump ship, I'll still be here, as will many others with my mindset. So as active numbers begin to dip in the Dust-only Alliances, I'll happily take the dedicated players under my wing.
I'm also sure that Dust's expansion cycles will bring in spikes in activity, even if its for short periods of time, where as people are going to see that buying a new Battlefield or CoD every 6 months is eating a hole in their pocket for a small graphics tweek and minor content upgrades.
P.S. I'm also not hating on Goldeneye generation because that was one of my best FPS experiences on a console, only surpassed by Perfect Dark shortly thereafter. Once I made the transition to Team Fortress Classic, however, I never turned back until CCP gave me a reason to. So, back-door-money-deal-with-sony is working as intended methinks. |
BursegSardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.01 19:35:00 -
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I completely agree with you on the persistence aspect. I won't play Battlefield or Planetside or Team Fortress ever again after Dust because of the persistence. Planetside 2 didn't have enough consequence or reward for the battles, so I stopped playing that after only a couple weeks.
I don't have "blind" faith in CCP, they have earned my respect after playing EVE for 7 years. In that length of time, I've been thoroughly entertained by their product. That's not to say I wasn't playing Bioshock or Fallout occasionally on the side, but 2 free expansions a year goes a long way toward keeping a game fresh. The biggest suck-factor the game has is the dying subscription model, but it's unlikely that that can change.
With Dust in CCP's hands, the constant iteration on the game will be its strongest, unique attribute. While there's nothing known for Destiny, if they don't implement a similar strategy for expansion, the content will be dried up after a few months.
If CCP was just a start up indie company, or even a super-huge studio, I wouldn't expect much for the future of Dust and assume it'd burn out like all the rest; mostly because the big studio would try to push out Dust514 2 or there's no basis for judgement with a little company. Thankfully, they have proven (especially in recent years) very receptive to their players' ideas and opinions, so I'm optimistic. |
BursegSardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.01 19:39:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:The worst part of the whole deal is that after the shiny wears off we will have a dip in numbers and when the new expansion comes out they will all cry for a repec and extra SP because the vets are too hardcore and they can't catch up.
That's where the HTFU attitude comes in.
And another benefit is the level 5 cap for all skills. It serves as a great balancing factor of old vs. new. If a new player specializes, he can take on vets in no time, since they hit the level 5 cap on the important skills long ago and are now side-training down other paths. |
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