This is two days old and I can't see any mention of it on the forums, but an unrelated search just coughed up this page: http://blog.asia.playstation.com/community/th/en/games/ps3/blog/2013/04/15/dust-514-skill-system-changes-in-uprising-update

Circles! Rainbow jeeps!! How exciting!!!

Suggest to change Op Title to say new dev blog found or something of that matter, good find.

ISK and AUR items will be based on the market value at the time of the respect.

This is two days old and I can't see any mention of it on the forums, but an unrelated search just coughed up this page: http://blog.asia.playstation.com/community/th/en/games/ps3/blog/2013/04/15/dust-514-skill-system-changes-in-uprising-update

Circles! Rainbow jeeps!! How exciting!!!

So...
We lose officer weapons?
BPO bought in closed beta will be refunded at open beta price?

new skill system looks dumb, they should have kept the list

So...
We lose officer weapons?
BPO bought in closed beta will be refunded at open beta price?

BTW good catch OP.

It's a bit ambiguous but the wording could be taken to mean they're only removing certain specific items from the market/game and refunding them. A full item wipe would cause high level tantruming from people with bulging asset warehouses built up over months of play.

Personally I reckon they're going to overhaul damage mods with a meganerf, and refund people who've built up huge stocks of them based on their current effectiveness.

DID NO ONE SEE HOW BADASS THE TANKS AND LAV'S LOOK?!

This is two days old and I can't see any mention of it on the forums, but an unrelated search just coughed up this page: http://blog.asia.playstation.com/community/th/en/games/ps3/blog/2013/04/15/dust-514-skill-system-changes-in-uprising-update

Circles! Rainbow jeeps!! How exciting!!!

Tanks look good. Not sure about the Skittlejeeps though.

It's a bit ambiguous but the wording could be taken to mean they're only removing certain specific items from the market/game and refunding them. A full item wipe would cause high level tantruming from people with bulging asset warehouses built up over months of play.

Personally I reckon they're going to overhaul damage mods with a meganerf, and refund people who've built up huge stocks of them based on their current effectiveness.

The refund value of ISK and AUR items will be based on the market value at the time of the respect.

So they're saying there's going to be an asset reset too? Ah dammit yet another cryptic post from the devs. Decypher if you can people

So they're saying there's going to be an asset reset too? Ah dammit yet another cryptic post from the devs. Decypher if you can people

I shall drive around in my skittle jeep running people over while screaming over my mic 'TASTE THE F***ING RAINBOW BITCHEEEEEEES!!!!!'.

So they're saying there's going to be an asset reset too? Ah dammit yet another cryptic post from the devs. Decypher if you can people

I hope they confirm this so I can stop running in free suits trying to save up cash.

Can someone find and quote that dev post hinting that trading will be available in Uprising? Based on the wording, it might mean officer items should be safe.

I can probably find more posts saying it wont make it into uprising. I hope that means your right regarding my officer weapons.

I seriously doubt you'll get the aur/isk for any items you've already used/lost, only items still in your assets, keep running those starter fits bro.

why is it players constantly have to do CCP's job?

Refund.

Oh btw all those merc pack guys will get some of their wishes made true.

DID NO ONE SEE HOW BADASS THE TANKS AND LAV'S LOOK?!

I agree, but it'll still be nice to get the isk from all that salvage.

+1 skittle jeeps

I didn't see any mention of getting rid of officer weapons, dunno where that came from.

Wait, why are the SP blurred out in that picture?
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8113/8651621860_d3a751d750_c.jpg

Who cares man, but that's a sh!t ton of isk and aur right there

Who cares man, but that's a sh!t ton of isk and aur right there

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8543/8651621894_cae706b8b6_c.jpg

Guys, look at the Caldari HAV near the top. That's CAMO motherkitten!

(Also I feel sorry for whoever gets stuck in that bright yellow LAV)

OK can some one please clarify? We WONT get back our AUR used on SP boosters. We WONT get back AUR spent on dropsuits and lost in battle. But we WILL get back our AUR spent on unused SP boosters? Does this mean the smart thing to do would be to load up on AUR gear before the respec so that we actually make AUR off this? Because from the looks of it if we don't spend our AUR on something then we would have the same exact amount of AUR after the respect as we did before even though the prices went up 2x. Or have I misunderstood?

So what if some mercs get an effective bump in AUR? Say I bought BPO X for Y AUR, X is now worth 2Y. I had my AUR doubled, but I can't buy X for the original price anymore; all I can do is get what I had before the refund.

Iron Wolf tells me some stuff will see a price drop come Uprising though, so feel free to try and load up on AUR gear if you want, I can't guarantee you'll make a profit though.

Dev Hacks? But in a live demo on IGN their Dust 514 character had something like 68,000,000 SP available. I guess they just don't want their playerbase to feel inadequate?

Most probably current prices, not new ones going to get reimbursed. That makes sense. Also, they said they will do big dev blog with list of stuff detailed whats gonna be respecced, reimbursed, removed, etc.

The skill tree reminds me of MAG. So does this mean you can't spec every skill. For example, you sacrifice reload speed for accuracy?

"Refund items at current market values"

Hmmm... What about the people who bought loads of militia BPOs back when they were 20 and 30 aurum a pop? Sounds like we could make a killing.

The skill tree reminds me of MAG. So does this mean you can't spec every skill. For example, you sacrifice reload speed for accuracy?

Tanks look good. Not sure about the Skittlejeeps though.

From the looks of it, it's a more organized representation of the skill system for people not familiar with how EVE works or just find the classic spreadsheet style confusing. It's a great way to keep track of skills and their prerequisites while planning for a build that fits your play style at the same time. if anything, this is something that should've been done in EVE years ago.

Except they said they're getting rid of prerequisites, so really a tree is pointless. It looks neater I guess.

"Refund items at current market values"

Hmmm... What about the people who bought loads of militia BPOs back when they were 20 and 30 aurum a pop? Sounds like we could make a killing.

Except they said they're getting rid of prerequisites, so really a tree is pointless. It looks neater I guess.

no no no, eve has this dumb system where for no reason some skills need other secondary and triary prerequisites. Hopefully eve will be gone with them too some day because it's silly :P

you need one skill to unlock the later skills in the tree. But you don't need wierd combos anymore, that is why eve never had a tree, it would work. Skills unlock skills all over the place. Now dust is a simple tree prerequisites system. I don't think it dumbs it down by any means

The skill tree reminds me of MAG. So does this mean you can't spec every skill. For example, you sacrifice reload speed for accuracy?

I hate that you said it but since it's an auto refund it sounds like we are just going to get showered with free AUR, or they will patch it because we said something :P

Nope.

Say you bought 2 milita shotgun BPOs for 30 each.
They now cost 60 each. (just using random numbers BTW)

So come Uprising you'd get 120 AUR back.
Assuming the prices stay the same, how many Militia shotgun BPOs do you think you could buy? Just 2, like what you originally had.

So yes, your AUR will get "doubled", but you won't gain much from it. I guess you could try buying something different, but the impact would be negligible at worst. There's no problem here at all.

DID NO ONE SEE HOW BADASS THE TANKS AND LAV'S LOOK?!

Nope.

Say you bought 2 milita shotgun BPOs for 30 each.
They now cost 60 each. (just using random numbers BTW)

So come Uprising you'd get 120 AUR back.
Assuming the prices stay the same, how many Militia shotgun BPOs do you think you could buy? Just 2, like what you originally had.

So yes, your AUR will get "doubled", but you won't gain much from it. I guess you could try buying something different, but the impact would be negligible at worst. There's no problem here at all.

You are missing the point. Ppl bought militia BPOS for a small price befire ccp raised the aur cost of those (30->3000 or so aur). Some bought 20 of those . If ccp reimburse at 3000 aur per piece, those dudes will get 60000 aur. And they wont buy another 20 of those bpos. They may not even buy one as they probably dont need them anymore.

Could result in 100s K of free aur for those fellas.

I myself have 10->20 of those.

no no no, eve has this dumb system where for no reason some skills need other secondary and triary prerequisites. Hopefully eve will be gone with them too some day because it's silly :P

you need one skill to unlock the later skills in the tree. But you don't need wierd combos anymore, that is why eve never had a tree, it would work. Skills unlock skills all over the place. Now dust is a simple tree prerequisites system. I don't think it dumbs it down by any means

This is actually an early version of the blog. We'll have an updated version today and then a more full version later in the month.

OR in other words after fan fest lol

Might have already been answered buuuuuuttt.....

" skill points that they have earned and used to date"

So, unallocated skill-points are lost??????

Maybe. We have the thing mostly-written, but it needs some reworking before it's ready for prime time. There's a slim possibility we'll get it fixed up and ready before FanFest, but most of the people who are involved in the process are heading to Iceland for FanFest, so it's a bit difficult to get things cleared up at the moment.

You are missing the point. Ppl bought militia BPOS for a small price befire ccp raised the aur cost of those (30->3000 or so aur). Some bought 20 of those . If ccp reimburse at 3000 aur per piece, those dudes will get 60000 aur. And they wont buy another 20 of those bpos. They may not even buy one as they probably dont need them anymore.

Could result in 100s K of free aur for those fellas.

I myself have 10->20 of those.

Incoming rant based on not having used something and only seen a single image so far:

Did you guys (CCP) happen to playtest these changes externally? Because honestly, this skill tree UI looks like it's going to be terrible for new players. I say that because as it appears, it only expands the tree to the right for a skill you have selected? That's going to be a freaking nightmare if there's no option to expand all trees, with having to cycle through everything just to see what's unlocked. I mean, in the image, you have light weapon operation at 5, but you can't see the skills it has unlocked while on heavy weapon operation? That's bad.

Players unfamiliar with the system aren't going to have any kind of recognition cue to remember what they were going to skill up. If they remember "oh I was working on something proficiency, now where was that again..." they're going to have to cycle through everything until they find it again instead of see it at a glance.

I think this could have been a lot better if you didn't make those freaking number bubbles so stupidly huge and restrict screen space.

Incoming rant based on not having used something and only seen a single image so far:

Did you guys (CCP) happen to playtest these changes externally? Because honestly, this skill tree UI looks like it's going to be terrible for new players. I say that because as it appears, it only expands the tree to the right for a skill you have selected? That's going to be a freaking nightmare if there's no option to expand all trees, with having to cycle through everything just to see what's unlocked. I mean, in the image, you have light weapon operation at 5, but you can't see the skills it has unlocked while on heavy weapon operation? That's bad.

Players unfamiliar with the system aren't going to have any kind of recognition cue to remember what they were going to skill up. If they remember "oh I was working on something proficiency, now where was that again..." they're going to have to cycle through everything until they find it again instead of see it at a glance.

I think this could have been a lot better if you didn't make those freaking number bubbles so stupidly huge and restrict screen space.

We're the external test group last time I checked.

QFT

CCP seems to have given us a "crayon" ui.

Totally optimized for the first 5 minutes of a new gamer and totally obnoxious for everyone that plays it more then 5 minutes.

We are all stuck using crayons instead of useful tools for the skills ui.

I shall drive around in my skittle jeep running people over while screaming over my mic 'TASTE THE F***ING RAINBOW BITCHEEEEEEES!!!!!'.