How about a Nova Claymore for heavies, a huge CQC weapon that can take out MAV's?

i would like to see some sort of calymore in the game, but do them the CCP say of doing them...

Really obvious, really big and noisy and really powerful... i am thinking goldeneye laser mines.

How about mines that are more like a warning signal than an actual kill device? For example, a sniper could use a proximity mine in an entrance near him so it would act as a warning. The player who triggered the mine might only take 100 damage or so, but at least the sniper has a warning. Also, crouching past the mines should not set them off. If you are trying to be super stealthy, make that the way to get past them.

If you really wanted to go overboard, there could even be a skill for hacking them/ disarming them. Great for enemy nanohives as well.

There wasnt really a complaint about remotes in there. They are fine. Getting killed by one is annoying, but they are relatively fun and require some skill. My point is, prox mines are just remote mines without skill.

And this discussion is about anti infantry prox mines, not anti tank. I dont think anyone really cares about anti tank prox mines because they are relatively useless. (mainly good for keeping lavs out of bases).

Prox mines/claymores could have a role, but they would need to be more obvious than remote mines and/or provide means to escape. A delay explosion with a trigger sound, allowing you to find and shoot the mine would be perfect.

Hahaha, nah we should should get Raam's sword and a Kryll shield.

i approve of proximity mines. they may not be fun when you get killed by them but they are fun to use.

i never hear of anyone saying " ahahaha that ar user shot me what a jolly good time" in fact the lack of threads on how fun it is to die is amazing.

I enjoy claymores. Place them to protect objectives and you're free to leave that objective. They worked great in MAG and COD. Both games offered methods to locate explosives. MAG had the electronics detector and COD had Hacker. Dust has precision scanning and the active scanner which could be changed to detect the db of electronic equipment and explosives on the battlefield.

Yes! Claymores, ahh they remind me of a lot of old times, especially the GOOD call of duty game, cod4 modern warfare.

They are great when you are a sniper, and I love how they used to scare the hell outta you as you turn a corner then BANG! haha.

I don't think claymores would be great for this game. I really liked claymores in SOCOM because they made you more cautious and punished you for running aroung carelessly, but that game was 3rd person so you could check around corners in the usual places. Because you could look around corners it was still semi fair, and required the claymore layer to think carefully about it's location.
Now if we're talking about the automatic proxy/laser mines that for some reason games have been calling claymores, I really don't think we need those. At least with real claymores you have to be paying attention to activate them when an enemy is near, but with proxy mines it's just cheap and makes the layer not have to pay attention or watch their back.

They would slow down the game for sure but I see that as a good thing. Think before you run.

i approve of proximity mines. they may not be fun when you get killed by them but they are fun to use.

i never hear of anyone saying " ahahaha that ar user shot me what a jolly good time" in fact the lack of threads on how fun it is to die is amazing.

Ok.. I spoke about this before the open demo and now I-¦ll do it again.

How about bringing the classic Claymore into the game?


http://jlz.com/USMC/USMC/ClaymoreMine.jpg

Absof**kinglutely not.


When you include something in a multiplayer game, you have to ensure that it strikes a balance that is fun for both the player on the receiving and the player doing the damage. This is why Forge Guns vs. Dropships is currently broken: All the forge gunner is doing is standing still charging and shooting, and the dropship pilot can't do anything but fly away and lick his wounds (Or suffer a cheap death and the loss of hundreds of thousands of ISK.)


Think about what claymores would add. (Because I can't think of anything.) Now think of how each user would experience them.

The user would simply set them down. That's it, no risk. If he gets a kill, he'll think to himself, "Oh, cool. My claymore got somebody."

The person on the receiving end would be blindsided and awarded a death that they didn't deserve. They'd feel angry, frustrated and cheated.


When you subtract the negative from the positive, ask yourself: Is it worth it? Take your time, but the answer is obvious.

It'd give people a reason to use active scanners and precision enhancers while adding a new level of strategy to the battlefield.

The only cool form of claymore would be one that reaveals your position and make some sort of ping on radar.


Classical APM would only be another thing that promotes static gameplay and more camping, Dust certainly don't need that at this stage, no matter what you say.