This game play was beyond boredom. However, it did point out a few major flaws in the game.

1. It showed how broken the Laser Rifle is.

2. It showed how broken map control is, when a camping squad is able to have a vantage points into two main spawns.

3. It showed how slow gameplay gets, when a dominating force decides to camp it.

Overall, this video pretty much shows what is wrong with most of the game. Abuse of a broken weapon with the abuse of a broken map design.

Hopefully, CCP is watching this video.

The AR range as far as I know isn't dropping, just the sharphooter skill won't increase the range anymore.
And just to make you understand, a laser touched me for a millisecond (It moved across my view, didn't even target me but the heavy near me) and it just removed 550hp in that moment.
The AR can't do that, you have to aim properly and put down around 10 bullets.

I don't want the AR to be like that, I want lasers to stop have ridiculous amounts of DPS.
OR make it so that you have to actually hold the laser on the enemy and only then the damage increases, instead of just the weapon builds up heat hence its now more powerful.

Actually no, I could not care less about the sharpshooter thing.
I have sharpshooter level III and I'm doing just fine.

The weapon is broken, if you are watching this and think otherwise you probably want to check your eyes.

And? Replace Viziam with any Proto level weapon + 4 complex mods and the results would be the same against that opposition.

I really hope they fix the LR in Uprising so that it requires skill to use

If it was do easy friend,you would be using it 100% of the time.

I really hope they fix the LR in Uprising so that it requires skill to use

My only point about sharpshooter is that users will 'experience' a range decrease if they are expecting their AR to feel like it did after Uprising hits. Yes range wont be decreased, but those with sharpshooter trained now won't have the same range.

I really like how CCP makes each weapon's tactical use very different. The damage distribution potential for laser weapons is back end loaded with a whole clip. My guess is that that 550 hp wasn't on the front end of the laser's cycle, also I'm going to continue to reserve judgement until they say that whatever viziam issue there currently is is claimed to be fixed.

As far as 10 bullets from an AR, 750 RPM means 12.5 rounds per second which adds up to around 400 damage each second. My guess is that the laser rifle can't do that kind of damage until the 3rd or 4th second of firing, and then the user enters the tradeoff of 'do I want to risk overheating in exchange for massive damage or not'.

What I'm hearing from you is that you want the laser rifle to work a tad more like the assault rifle in that the damage distribution cycle should be flatter and require the user to have to have significantly increased tracking skills. It seems to have been designed to be less of a tracking weapon and and a more forgiving 'sweeper'.

Also what do you think should be the trade off in damage increase of a weapon if they have more mechanics overheating/seizing/scaling damage to worry/think about? Is it fair for them to get a little more potential damage?

I really hope they fix the LR in Uprising so that it requires skill to use

Not at all, I have yet to put a single point into ARs for the exact same reason.

The laser is also the opposite of my "rush 'n' crush" playstyle.

Lasers and ARs are more "camp 'n' stamp", way too boring for me, personally.

We are talking skill as you mentioned previously,if it was easy and required little skill such as the sniper rifle than yes,people would be using it all the time. I think the AR is broken so I use the LR. I am heavily skilled and proficent with both wepons.

All I see from "top" players these days is Viziams with stacked damage mods. Seriously, it's a laser show every game I go into that has a squad of halfway descent people. Lasers are quickly becoming the staple weapon over ARs because of their ease of use and extreme efficiency at range.

[quote=Beren Hurin]
You make some good points.
Keep the damage the same, but the max damage should be much lower than it is right now.
Also, you can't swipe with the AR, so the whole "400dps" point is moot.

All I have to say is that the laser is the ONLY weapon that rewards you for MISSING.

Mull that one over.

Disagree. You do more damage to a player if you don't miss. our damage does not increase if you miss.

All I have to say is that the laser is the ONLY weapon that rewards you for MISSING.

Mull that one over.

My whole unclear point on swiping vs RPM on AR was more that the average dps of a laser rifle over the life of a clip is probably pretty comparative, especially if you are burst firing the laser. Also, I never said that you could swipe the AR. I said the opposite, that it was more of a tracking weapon. Anyway, If you spend the entire clip without letting up you could probably exceep the DPS on an AR at the same level, but you are risking other things. On top of this lasers seem to eat ammo faster than ARs.

If you look at the video, its annoyingly difficult to see the HP of suits due the the laser's sights, but if we assume most suits you were killing had around 350+ HP I was counting about 2.5 to 3 seconds to kill most of them. That really isn't THAT amazing as far as DPS. I still think the main problem here was that people had their shields mostly gone before they could move.

Im not going to argue over ones personal dislikes going from one "point" to another. War is about finding unfair advantages,and if it was easy and required no skill,than as I said,everyone would be using it.

The only real downside to lazers, that ive seen, is that (at lease on tier 3 without damage mods) the time it takes to eat through armor tanked folks, combined with the fact you have a giant lazer pointing to the enemy, from you, means 2 things:

Other enemy soldiers will key in on you.

Allies will key in on your target.

Neither are inherently bad. Taking the attention of the enemy allows your team to flank them. Your allies helpiing you kill faster is nice, but since other guns damage armor faster, youll likely end up with an assist rather than a kill. Which could be a bit annoying and make you want to switch guns after a while.

Lmfao. You justify it that way, have a blast. A weapon with extreme range, no recoil, barely non existent overheat, and insanely high DPS at range....yea.....have fun with that.

You guys enjoy your thread on the king of camps, I for one will hold out that CCP fixes the weapon in Uprising.

Good day.

And I see you are new to Dust,welcome aboard!

And you must be new to Youtube for posting that video

Lmfao. You justify it that way, have a blast. A weapon with extreme range, no recoil, barely non existent overheat, and insanely high DPS at range....yea.....have fun with that.

You guys enjoy your thread on the king of camps, I for one will hold out that CCP fixes the weapon in Uprising.

Good day.

And you must be new to Youtube for posting that video

Lmfao. You justify it that way, have a blast. A weapon with extreme range, no recoil, barely non existent overheat, and insanely high DPS at range....yea.....have fun with that.

You guys enjoy your thread on the king of camps, I for one will hold out that CCP fixes the weapon in Uprising.

Good day.

You clearly have PERSONAL problems with the LR.