It looks awesome against a full team with "new players". Why don't you try again against "old/good people", not like me of course.

good lord!
How many faces were melted that day?

jeeesus. kb/m btw? thanks for the link, was interesting to see.

This game play was beyond boredom. However, it did point out a few major flaws in the game.

1. It showed how broken the Laser Rifle is.

2. It showed how broken map control is, when a camping squad is able to have a vantage points into two main spawns.

3. It showed how slow gameplay gets, when a dominating force decides to camp it.

Overall, this video pretty much shows what is wrong with most of the game. Abuse of a broken weapon with the abuse of a broken map design.

Hopefully, CCP is watching this video.

Actually no, I could not care less about the sharpshooter thing.
I have sharpshooter level III and I'm doing just fine.

The weapon is broken, if you are watching this and think otherwise you probably want to check your eyes.

And? Replace Viziam with any Proto level weapon + 4 complex mods and the results would be the same against that opposition.

I really hope they fix the LR in Uprising so that it requires skill to use

Not at all, I have yet to put a single point into ARs for the exact same reason.

The laser is also the opposite of my "rush 'n' crush" playstyle.

Lasers and ARs are more "camp 'n' stamp", way too boring for me, personally.

All I see from "top" players these days is Viziams with stacked damage mods. Seriously, it's a laser show every game I go into that has a squad of halfway descent people. Lasers are quickly becoming the staple weapon over ARs because of their ease of use and extreme efficiency at range.

All I have to say is that the laser is the ONLY weapon that rewards you for MISSING.

Mull that one over.

Lmfao. You justify it that way, have a blast. A weapon with extreme range, no recoil, barely non existent overheat, and insanely high DPS at range....yea.....have fun with that.

You guys enjoy your thread on the king of camps, I for one will hold out that CCP fixes the weapon in Uprising.

Good day.

And you must be new to Youtube for posting that video

You're right. I PERSONALLY have a problem with a weapon doing insane damage just by swiping past an enemy halfway across the field. I thought in a FPS one is required to aim

And now I'll leave you be, sorry for the response

This is the second LR thread I've commented on in a month (the other thread being my own, in which I literally was only talking about what I'm talking about here). Kettle, meet pot.

Shotguns require you to be up close and personal, right in the thick of things. You're vulnerable to focus fire at close range, grenades, mass drivers, HMGs, long range support, basically anything and everything since you have to stick your neck out to get kills.

Shotguns will only OHKO descent fit suits if you are literally right on top of the player. The only reason you can do this is because players using LRs and ARs tend to sit still and zoom, instead of watching their surroundings. A Proto suit takes 2 to 4 close range (close, but not literally on top of them) shots from a L4 shotgun (all I have atm), unless they're camping in a glass cannon fit.

I too have tested almost all weapons in my time with the beta (over a year). The main problem with the laser is how you can "charge it" and swing it around for kills. That's the problem. It takes little skill once you've maxed it because you can sweep past someone. If you had to keep the beam focused to achieve max damage, it would be alright. Instead, you can burn the ground, then swing past and bam, done.

I also find it comical how players seem to think if you provide feedback against a weapon, you have problems dealing with it....I'm a SHOTGUN SCOUT...the supposed counter to LR users, since I thrive where they're weakest. I know it's difficult to grasp, but it's actually possible to make ::gasp:: observations

Ok, can some other LR specialists speak up on this point?

I've been under the impression that LRs build up damage regardless of if they're on target or not. I thought that's why I see Proto Laser users shooting the ground and things around you before blasting you for max damage.

Does anyone know the math or specifics on this? If someone can prove me wrong on this, then I suppose I'll withdraw that part of my argument (basically my only argument)

Ok, can some other LR specialists speak up on this point?

I've been under the impression that LRs build up damage regardless of if they're on target or not. I thought that's why I see Proto Laser users shooting the ground and things around you before blasting you for max damage.

Does anyone know the math or specifics on this? If someone can prove me wrong on this, then I suppose I'll withdraw that part of my argument (basically my only argument)

That's....precisely the point I'm trying to make....you can warm it up...then swing it around...(as in, swipe back and forth over an enemy, instead of keeping it trained on them the entire time).

I've stuck with my main point all the way through, that you can get to max damage by hitting the ground, and then swiping past an opponent. At one point I mention some of the LRs strengths such as its lack of recoil, noticeable heat build up (same issue with HMG), and it's extreme lethal range, but that was me just knee jerk reacting.

I've moved my question to a different thread in the hopes of receiving detailed answers, since I literally only have this ONE issue with LRs, as I continuously attempt to tell you

And you seem to be missing the point that spending SP shouldn't justify a weapon doing the damage that the LR does at the range it does when building up damage off target.

I think the simple solution is to just ask...GM,DEV....is this how the LR was intended to be used? Is it broken? And I do understand my aim is not the best in the video. I jyst had stomach surgery and I have to play laying on my back while under the influence of narcotic pain medicene. Your input would be much appreciated, thanks!

I know it's trash up close, but when you camp at range with it, with squad support, you eliminate its only weakness and greatly amplify its extreme strength (damage build up off target)

I don't need to eat hagus to know that it looks and sounds fugly

So now its "squad suport" ?

I know it's trash up close, but when you camp at range with it, with squad support, you eliminate its only weakness and greatly amplify its extreme strength (damage build up off target)

I don't need to eat hagus to know that it looks and sounds fugly

Your meds are ruining your reading comprehension bro.

WITH squad support. You greatly reduce any chance of a close range attack, allowing you to deal increased damage at range because your missed shots are still benefiting you.



I just fail to see why you're rewarded for missing, is all. I've never once seen a forge gun, rail gun, or charge sniper rifle swipe back and forth over someone for full damage.

I hope to God you're trolling me bro. YOU are the one who mentioned your meds...then you go to say that I said that the LR is squad support, which I did not. You misread what I wrote, and decided to jump on that. I was correcting you, mentioning that the narcotics you mentioned might be causing you to skip over things (supported by how many times you've skipped over the single point I've attempted to make over and over throughout this thread)



Just showcasing that the LRs only weakness is easily covered up by the same technique that allows its strength to be easily exploited (damage build up OFF target at range)

You again lol!!
The HMG is OP video, right??

Heavies are screwed.

Now its a laser rifle??

Then I guess the same results with 4X mods on an Ishukone SMG plus idiots is OP??

People who are saying you need to spec millions of skill points for the LR to be really good are very funny and fooling themselves...

I always like counter lasering you

Hey Mr Lowrate. I seen you in a match earlier today, you were using a specialist shotgun. You kicked some red dot butt. I did good as well i think i came second, i don't think i died that match either.It was fun playing with you.

Actually the sharpshooter skill for LR is still going to add range bonus to the weapon, they even stated that the optimal range of the LR will increase according to your sharpshooter lvl (because it's not working properly right now) the Light Weapon Sharpshooter skill is still there and it will work the same way it's working right now according to the pictures of the skills I saw from a player in the singularity server.

But for the rest of the weapons (some of them) there will be an aditional sharpshooter that will increase accuracy instead of range, for example if you're using AR's you need to train the AR Sharpshooter because you might have a Light Weapon Sharpshooter at lvl 4 or 5, BUT without an AR Sharpshooter skill at a high level then it doesn't matter how much range your AR has because in the end you will have poor accuracy.

Oh Man, Thanks for the video, now I know what I'll become after I finish up my goddamn Assault build. :D