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NIKIA BETHUNE
Ill Omens
54
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Posted - 2013.03.31 07:47:00 -
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like i tried to say before i'm done with this post p2w f2p respec now respec later pay don't pay i don't care. sloth if you want to continue sure but do it alone nothing you say makes a lick of sense and the sad part is i dont think you realize it. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
698
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Posted - 2013.03.31 07:51:00 -
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My troll is level 1? ***** please, you're not worth trolling. You already get yourself riled up over nothing, I don't even need to try, not that I'm trolling you, but if I was then I'd be damn easy.
You should go buy the "grammer and punctuation" skillbook from the market though, that last post hurt more than a scrambler to the brain. |
NIKIA BETHUNE
Ill Omens
54
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Posted - 2013.03.31 07:54:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:My troll is level 1? ***** please, you're not worth trolling. You already get yourself riled up over nothing, I don't even need to try, not that I'm trolling you, but if I was then I'd be damn easy.
You should go buy the "grammer and punctuation" skillbook from the market though, that last post hurt more than a scrambler to the brain. ooohhhh snap you told me. good night. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
698
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Posted - 2013.03.31 07:56:00 -
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NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:My troll is level 1? ***** please, you're not worth trolling. You already get yourself riled up over nothing, I don't even need to try, not that I'm trolling you, but if I was then I'd be damn easy.
You should go buy the "grammer and punctuation" skillbook from the market though, that last post hurt more than a scrambler to the brain. ooohhhh snap you told me. good night. Buenas noches. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1846
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Posted - 2013.03.31 07:57:00 -
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NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:you guys win lol I'm tired of talking about something I could care less about. Thanks for the interesting debate with limited trolling nice to have a convo on the forums without pointless hate
So all this time I thought you were actually serious. In reality you basically showed every Newberry why the idea of pay-to-respec won't fly in the DUST community. Interesting. You got me, bro. |
NIKIA BETHUNE
Ill Omens
55
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Posted - 2013.03.31 08:03:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:you guys win lol I'm tired of talking about something I could care less about. Thanks for the interesting debate with limited trolling nice to have a convo on the forums without pointless hate So all this time I thought you were actually serious. In reality you basically showed every Newberry why the idea of pay-to-respec won't fly in the DUST community. Interesting. You got me, bro. lmao everytime i try to go someone else talks **** for no reason? what's your deal now? what did i say to you now? |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2258
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Posted - 2013.03.31 08:04:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:My troll is level 1? ***** please, you're not worth trolling. You already get yourself riled up over nothing, I don't even need to try, not that I'm trolling you, but if I was then I'd be damn easy.
You should go buy the "grammer and punctuation" skillbook from the market though, that last post hurt more than a scrambler to the brain. Sloth9230 wrote:You should go buy the "grammer and punctuation" skillbook from the market though, that last post hurt more than a scrambler to the brain. You spelt "grammar" wrong. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2258
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Posted - 2013.03.31 08:06:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:"I can almost guarantee CCP will start selling 1 Million SP sets because a lot of people want SP without having to grind."
If I posted this, people would rip me to shreds. How do you know that?
Look what happened when someone else posted it?
...oh. Right. |
NIKIA BETHUNE
Ill Omens
55
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Posted - 2013.03.31 08:06:00 -
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NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:No.
And you say a lot of people want to respec? Yeah, they do, but most want it so they can fix a few bad decisions or so that they can use the new suits/weapons when they come, not so that they can completely change specialization whenever they want. You're system on the other hand reeks of potential for abuse. The ability to respec on the fly should never be allowed, doesn't matter how much it costs. I'm done with the debate honest but who are you talking to? Me i didn't say anything about respecing on the fly in fact several times I've send limited to once a week or month so little confused here. because of someone else being ignorant like yourself and just talking **** i had to come back and say something else. what what does it matter if i choose to speak or not it's my choice guy. i could care-less if you respect me your noone to me it's funny that you feel that way tho ^^ so unless someone else wants to take another crack at me when i'm trying to end the post it's over.
incase your not catching on i'm not going to let someone have the last word on me at my expense. |
NIKIA BETHUNE
Ill Omens
55
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Posted - 2013.03.31 08:08:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:"I can almost guarantee CCP will start selling 1 Million SP sets because a lot of people want SP without having to grind."
If I posted this, people would rip me to shreds. How do you know that? Look what happened when someone else posted it? ...oh. Right. jeeez thanks for not talking **** too. man +1 i'm not sure what peoples issue is. |
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
699
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Posted - 2013.03.31 08:26:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:My troll is level 1? ***** please, you're not worth trolling. You already get yourself riled up over nothing, I don't even need to try, not that I'm trolling you, but if I was then I'd be damn easy.
You should go buy the "grammer and punctuation" skillbook from the market though, that last post hurt more than a scrambler to the brain. Sloth9230 wrote:You should go buy the "grammer and punctuation" skillbook from the market though, that last post hurt more than a scrambler to the brain. You spelt "grammar" wrong. Crap. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
700
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Posted - 2013.03.31 08:38:00 -
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NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:'m not going to let someone have the last word on me at my expense. Okey dokey artichokey. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2261
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Posted - 2013.03.31 08:46:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:'m not going to let someone have the last word on me at my expense. Okey dokey artichokey. Roll up, roll up, everyone! Right here, best challenge yet on the forums!!!!!!!
Who has more time on their hands?
In the [insert colour here] corner, we have NIKIA BETHUNE (emphasis not my own, it's written in all-caps on my card)... In the [insert other colour here] corner, we have Sloth9230 (again, not a weird numerical form of tourettes, that's actually his name)...
PLACE YOUR BETS!!!! |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
700
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Posted - 2013.03.31 08:54:00 -
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Purple brah |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1812
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Posted - 2013.03.31 09:33:00 -
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I could take em both if its about wasting life on the forums lol |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2264
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Posted - 2013.03.31 09:46:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:I could take em both if its about wasting life on the forums lol Either of us could. But they're a more fun challenge than anyone who'd want to compete. And they walked themselves right into it, which is something neither of us would ever do. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1815
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Posted - 2013.03.31 10:02:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:I could take em both if its about wasting life on the forums lol Either of us could. But they're a more fun challenge than anyone who'd want to compete. And they walked themselves right into it, which is something neither of us would ever do. Sloths going to take this. NIK a forum warrior in training but he's not nearly as active as sloth. I wonder how long it took us to be known as forum warriors, and if that was measured by the amount of likes we got. |
Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
436
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Posted - 2013.03.31 10:29:00 -
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TODDSTER024 wrote:I'd say 1 million ISK for the first respec, 2 for the second, three for the third etc... If it were ISK based, I seriously doubt it would be less than 100,000,000 ISK for the first level. 1m ISK isn't even pocket lint, it's tobacco dust that settles in the crevasses of your pocket stitching. |
XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
91
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Posted - 2013.03.31 12:10:00 -
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NIKIA BETHUNE wrote: I can all most guarantee there will be some form of sp point reallocation... Didn't say reset just the ability to respend them. when? No idea but I will tell you this much it will not be free most likely will cost 1000-5000 aur. So just hold on its coming ccp needs to make money and this is a great way just wait a bit longer.
So you say I can all most guarantee than right after that you say you can't guarantee anything. Lol! This kid is just some moron who wants attention. I hope you don't sell things for a living that would be the most pathetic pitch to almost guarantee something than say right afterwards you guarantee nothing...lol! |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
944
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Posted - 2013.03.31 13:48:00 -
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NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:you guys win lol I'm tired of talking about something I could care less about. Thanks for the interesting debate with limited trolling nice to have a convo on the forums without pointless hate So all this time I thought you were actually serious. In reality you basically showed every Newberry why the idea of pay-to-respec won't fly in the DUST community. Interesting. You got me, bro. lmao everytime i try to go someone else talks **** for no reason? what's your deal now? what did i say to you now? This forum will never let you leave, if you try to keep up with the threads. the only way to leave this place is to post and then immediately close the page. |
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The Goram Batman
Forgotten Militia
24
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Posted - 2013.03.31 17:00:00 -
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They might refund your SP once the new build/suits come out, but even then, it might only be the points you allocated into suits.
Sorry if this was brought up already, don't feel like reading through the whole thread. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
703
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Posted - 2013.03.31 18:22:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:I could take em both if its about wasting life on the forums lol Either of us could. But they're a more fun challenge than anyone who'd want to compete. And they walked themselves right into it, which is something neither of us would ever do. Sloths going to take this. NIK a forum warrior in training but he's not nearly as active as sloth. I wonder how long it took us to be known as forum warriors, and if that was measured by the amount of likes we got. So did I win? |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1167
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Posted - 2013.03.31 19:24:00 -
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get real, don't go unreal |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
4
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Posted - 2013.03.31 22:05:00 -
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TODDSTER024 wrote:I'd say 1 million ISK for the first respec, 2 for the second, three for the third etc...
a million isk? that's like 3.2 cents, dude...
ccp doesn't want you to be able to respec your character. they want you to think more about the skills you choose to invest in. |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
5
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Posted - 2013.03.31 22:09:00 -
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NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:Can someone tell me how a respec option in dust would be any different than the countless mmos that do it? Please how or why is this such a big issue tell me the last mmo other than eve it wasn't possible.
i can. CCP doesn't want you to be able to choose skills like a noob, and then change your mind. they want you to play for 10 years and cherish every sp that comes your way.
the problem with other mmo's is... they're trash by comparison. |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
5
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Posted - 2013.03.31 22:16:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:low genius wrote:NIKIA BETHUNE wrote: I can all most guarantee there will be some form of sp point reallocation... Didn't say reset just the ability to respend them. when? No idea but I will tell you this much it will not be free most likely will cost 1000-5000 aur. So just hold on its coming ccp needs to make money and this is a great way just wait a bit longer. that won't ever happen. if they change a skill tree, they will refund the sp you've already spent in a non-existent tree for you to re-spend. they won't ever let you 'respec' for aur, or for any other reason. I'm hoping - not expecting, but hoping - they also let us respec into new racial suit variants when they introduce a Gallente Assault equivalent, and a Caldari Small Frame, and the various other racial Dropsuit designs. they've already protected themselves against this, as is obvious in the suit tree as it is.
I know a few Caldari who have skilled into Gallente Scouts simply because it's the only option that fills our preferred role. I know a few people who want to skill into Scout suits, but because the only suit of that size is Gallente, they've avoided it. I know people who have skilled into Logis instead of Assaults even though they're not the preferred suit just because it's the only medium suit they can use without funding the Caldari State. not wearing a suit because it's gallente doesn't make much sense within the eve universe.
I know a lot of FPS players don't think this way, but some do, and giving those of us who are working on "best fit" options for now a chance to do what we REALLY wanted with our SP would be nice. they don't want it to be easy to play this game, if they did they would have made cod 16 or whatever
Having said that, though, I hope if they DO offer this kind of respec, it ONLY lets you respec into an equivalent weapon. The current Gallente AR skill could be trade (for example) for equal amount of SP into Gauss Rifle or Scramber Rifle operation, but not Shotgun or Forge Gun or SMG skills. If you've got level 5 Gallente Scout skill, then you can trade it for level 5 Caldari [insert small frame name] skill, but you can't respec into a Heavy suit because that would violate the intent for your decisions to have consequences.
it sounds to me like you wish you had been in the beta earlier. CCP gave you that option, and you passed. not their fault. |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
328
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Posted - 2013.04.01 00:08:00 -
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CCP are very unlikely to offer a respec for AUR or for isk. If they had any intention of doing so, they would introduce it in EVE online, with AUR for an attribute reallocation. However, Low, people may want to reskill for racial dropsuits. Some racial dropsuits may grant bonuses to certain things, e.g. Amarr assault-equivalent may include a bonus to laser damage/heat dissipation rate etc, so having a Caldari assault suit would be useless if you like lasers. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2300
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Posted - 2013.04.01 01:47:00 -
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low genius wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:low genius wrote:NIKIA BETHUNE wrote: I can all most guarantee there will be some form of sp point reallocation... Didn't say reset just the ability to respend them. when? No idea but I will tell you this much it will not be free most likely will cost 1000-5000 aur. So just hold on its coming ccp needs to make money and this is a great way just wait a bit longer. that won't ever happen. if they change a skill tree, they will refund the sp you've already spent in a non-existent tree for you to re-spend. they won't ever let you 'respec' for aur, or for any other reason. I'm hoping - not expecting, but hoping - they also let us respec into new racial suit variants when they introduce a Gallente Assault equivalent, and a Caldari Small Frame, and the various other racial Dropsuit designs. they've already protected themselves against this, as is obvious in the suit tree as it is.
I know a few Caldari who have skilled into Gallente Scouts simply because it's the only option that fills our preferred role. I know a few people who want to skill into Scout suits, but because the only suit of that size is Gallente, they've avoided it. I know people who have skilled into Logis instead of Assaults even though they're not the preferred suit just because it's the only medium suit they can use without funding the Caldari State. not wearing a suit because it's gallente doesn't make much sense within the eve universe.
I know a lot of FPS players don't think this way, but some do, and giving those of us who are working on "best fit" options for now a chance to do what we REALLY wanted with our SP would be nice. they don't want it to be easy to play this game, if they did they would have made cod 16 or whatever
Having said that, though, I hope if they DO offer this kind of respec, it ONLY lets you respec into an equivalent weapon. The current Gallente AR skill could be trade (for example) for equal amount of SP into Gauss Rifle or Scramber Rifle operation, but not Shotgun or Forge Gun or SMG skills. If you've got level 5 Gallente Scout skill, then you can trade it for level 5 Caldari [insert small frame name] skill, but you can't respec into a Heavy suit because that would violate the intent for your decisions to have consequences. it sounds to me like you wish you had been in the beta earlier. CCP gave you that option, and you passed. not their fault. I've been here since E3.
And as I said, I hope for this, but don't expect it. At all. Might be nice, but not a big deal for me. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
958
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Posted - 2013.04.01 02:22:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:get real, don't go unreal Wondered how long it would take that joke to make an appearance. |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2013.04.01 02:24:00 -
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gbghg wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:get real, don't go unreal Wondered how long it would take that joke to make an appearance.
so is it a good or bad joke? |
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