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Posted - 2013.03.31 02:48:00 -
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NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:[quote=NIKIA BETHUNE]Really tbh what does it matter if it makes it a p2w game? I think you should have to pay to respec. By your logic sir nothing in this game should be charged ccp should give us everything while this game slowly makes them go bankrupt. People don't want CCP to stop having paid items. We want them to stick to the point of the world they've created with EVE Online. Decisions have consequences. No matter how much an EVE pilot spends on the game, no matter how much ISK they spend, no matter how much real money they give CCP, there is still not an option for them to respec. Why should DUST be any different? You want to skill into Heavies, but all your SP is in Scouts? Play the game, earn more SP, and skill into Heavies. Actually good point. But if a majority of people want a resec y not does it affect u or me? [quote]
You're about to get into a battle worth 300,000,000 ISK and could send your corp into the top 20. All you need is 1 good tanker and respeccing is possible. You've just got your first example how respect effects us all and is pay to win. |
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Posted - 2013.03.31 04:16:00 -
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bottom line on how people will see things: If you can use real money to give yourself an edge in battle in a meaningful way like... idk.... changing your specialization to be the exact counter needed. That's pay to win. |
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Posted - 2013.03.31 04:26:00 -
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undeadsoldier90 wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:bottom line on how people will see things: If you can use real money to give yourself an edge in battle in a meaningful way like... idk.... changing your specialization to be the exact counter needed. That's pay to win. +1 for more logic.......... I am impressed. Was I never logical in the past? lol
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Posted - 2013.03.31 05:54:00 -
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NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:With the way Planetary Conquest works, this system will be MORE P2W than it would be in the current Corp Battle system.
You know who you're attacking (or who's attacking you), and have 24 hours to prepare. Anyone with AUR to spare and a less-than-optimal loadout for the enemy you'll be facing can buy a respec. Okay so what your telling me is some the enemy know every person ur bringing what they plan to use what tatics they are going. To employ then as a group they are going to spend xxxx aur on it? First who are your spies second most people I know refuse to buy boosters or a uvt now ur telling me u can convince multiple people they are going to respec for a battle that's 24hr on a unknown battle against unknown players really? What I'm telling you is that with 24 hours' notice, a Corp can find out a LOT from people who have fought that enemy before. And what I'm telling you is that a lot of people have AUR that they'd be willing to spend on something that's going to improve their performance in a major Planetary Conquest battle. And it's definitely NOT going to be "an unknown battle against unknown players" - THAT'S THE POINT. And you still haven't countered the most important argument, which is that A CORE VALUE IN NEW EDEN IS THE FACT THAT YOUR DECISIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES. When you skill into something, you've made your decision, and must now LIVE WITH IT. Not spend money to make the decision go away. So what ur saying is corp a vs corp b fight on district 3 out of say 4. Being attack by an known number of enemies say 2 your telling me that you know without a shadow of a doubt that corp a are going to be using x player and corp b needs to respec just to counter him when they other team may not even use him not only that your going to respec every time you face a new enemy? Nah bro don't see it happening and its too easy to fix they could set respecs to once a week or once a month. As to ur important argument I agree with u which why I said I'd use it if do do it and could care less if they don't. The thing is is that most corps will always have an A team - and knowing who that is isn't really a problem. ZionTCD's calls themselves "TCD Prime" *Empty list lol* and it's not hard to get a hold of. SyN and SI have similar set ups - though they can arrange there more talented player base around. It's also not hard to find out how a corp has been winning. It's doubtful a corp will change a winning strategy until it sees a hard counter. STB is known for tanks, Imps for AR game, PFBH for tanks/AR, Zion for Logi'/Heavie, Hellstorm AR/heavy/some logi ect ect. |
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Posted - 2013.03.31 06:01:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:So what ur saying is corp a vs corp b fight on district 3 out of say 4. Being attack by an known number of enemies say 2 your telling me that you know without a shadow of a doubt that corp a are going to be using x player and corp b needs to respec just to counter him when they other team may not even use him not only that your going to respec every time you face a new enemy? Nah bro don't see it happening and its too easy to fix they could set respecs to once a week or once a month. As to ur important argument I agree with u which why I said I'd use it if do do it and could care less if they don't. I've got at least 24 hours to find out everything I need to know about the Corp. It's entirely possible I'll be able to find a person's real-world identity and arrange for an "emergency" to make sure one of the other Corp's top players is unavailable for the battle with that much advance warning. I can probably find out which (if any) Mercs they've hired and try to pay some off to either no-show or sabotage the Corp's efforts in any of a large variety of ways. ... you scare me now |
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Posted - 2013.03.31 09:33:00 -
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I could take em both if its about wasting life on the forums lol |
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Posted - 2013.03.31 10:02:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:I could take em both if its about wasting life on the forums lol Either of us could. But they're a more fun challenge than anyone who'd want to compete. And they walked themselves right into it, which is something neither of us would ever do. Sloths going to take this. NIK a forum warrior in training but he's not nearly as active as sloth. I wonder how long it took us to be known as forum warriors, and if that was measured by the amount of likes we got. |
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