There will be no pay for respace, ever, there are going to be over 4 more years of skills in the next build alone, your kidding yourself.

Sp refunds are only given in CCP titles when a large chunk of skills change. Besides what incentive would there be then to buy skill clusters? Skill clusters give you a set of skill levels for a week. If you could just respec there would be no reason to buy them.

Skill clusters is your way tot est skills paths before you invest, because you'll never get a take back.

Of crouse this also means with AUR proto suits a week old player could use skill clusters and AUR to fit out proto gear week 1. But that's not pay to win *rolls eyes*

Something some of us seem to overlook with our give me give me attitudes. This is a free to play game we don't have to drop a cent on it. And ccp will still take our complaints and suggestions like we played 60$ for it. Now while we didn't or did pay for this game it does not take away from the fact that it cost $$$$$$$$$$$ to develop. And we will be getting two FREE expansions a year. What damn right do we have to complain about what they charge us or don't charge us for.... Simple fix don't buy it or don't play the free game.

100% correct bro, +1

There will be no pay for respace, ever, there are going to be over 4 more years of skills in the next build alone, your kidding yourself.

Sp refunds are only given in CCP titles when a large chunk of skills change. Besides what incentive would there be then to buy skill clusters? Skill clusters give you a set of skill levels for a week. If you could just respec there would be no reason to buy them.

Skill clusters is your way tot est skills paths before you invest, because you'll never get a take back.

Of crouse this also means with AUR proto suits a week old player could use skill clusters and AUR to fit out proto gear week 1. But that's not pay to win *rolls eyes*

I wouldn't expect respecing, its not allowed in eve and for the same reason it wont be allowed here.(yes in eve you can optimize skill point gain once a year, not the same as SP respecing)

that said I would expect a refund of skill points come may. there will be a lot of skills added and that could affect current skills. we know there wont be a reset of SP because they said your characters will not be reset to day one.

as far as ccp making money off of this I can spend 20$$ on a couple of days worth of suits and I have, a lot of people are willing to spend the money so they don't have to spend time they don't have. This is how free to play works, you get a few whales and a reasonable number of people pay what amounts to a monthly and they cover the cost of allowing every one else to play.

this will only increase as the player driven market is introduced and aur items can be sold for isk.

I can all most guarantee there will be some form of sp point reallocation... Didn't say reset just the ability to respend them. when? No idea but I will tell you this much it will not be free most likely will cost 1000-5000 aur. So just hold on its coming ccp needs to make money and this is a great way just wait a bit longer.

that won't ever happen. if they change a skill tree, they will refund the sp you've already spent in a non-existent tree for you to re-spend. they won't ever let you 'respec' for aur, or for any other reason.

It's F2P not P2W. I've played plenty of F2P games.... but none of them are truly F2P since to get the better stuff you HAVE to pay. Doing respec for money makes this game P2W. This game is built by paying with the choices you make... If you can respec you don't pay for any choice you make since you can change it without any risk whatsoever.

Really tbh what does it matter if it makes it a p2w game? I think you should have to pay to respec. By your logic sir nothing in this game should be charged ccp should give us everything while this game slowly makes them go bankrupt.

People don't want CCP to stop having paid items.

We want them to stick to the point of the world they've created with EVE Online.

Decisions have consequences. No matter how much an EVE pilot spends on the game, no matter how much ISK they spend, no matter how much real money they give CCP, there is still not an option for them to respec.

Why should DUST be any different?

You want to skill into Heavies, but all your SP is in Scouts? Play the game, earn more SP, and skill into Heavies.

People don't want CCP to stop having paid items.

We want them to stick to the point of the world they've created with EVE Online.

Decisions have consequences. No matter how much an EVE pilot spends on the game, no matter how much ISK they spend, no matter how much real money they give CCP, there is still not an option for them to respec.

Why should DUST be any different?

You want to skill into Heavies, but all your SP is in Scouts? Play the game, earn more SP, and skill into Heavies.

People don't want CCP to stop having paid items.

We want them to stick to the point of the world they've created with EVE Online.

Decisions have consequences. No matter how much an EVE pilot spends on the game, no matter how much ISK they spend, no matter how much real money they give CCP, there is still not an option for them to respec.

Why should DUST be any different?

You want to skill into Heavies, but all your SP is in Scouts? Play the game, earn more SP, and skill into Heavies.

You're about to get into a battle worth 300,000,000 ISK and could send your corp into the top 20. All you need is 1 good tanker and respeccing is possible. You've just got your first example how respect effects us all and is pay to win.

Thank you sota I do like examples but yours is flawed. This is why first if this was to happen it would not happen before May 6th hence a battle that you speak if is not possible. Second even if you could respec to a proto tank pro anything does mean you have the skill to use it. Would u really trust that much Isk to someone that rarely or never uses a tank? I think not lets. Go the other way and say that they can use the gear well the cost of switching back and forth would not be worth the effort. Some could afford it I'm sure but not many.

Please go to the war room and read the recent PRO fiasco, that example is the key reason why there should be no sp reset, it means everything will end up as flavor as the month, " that gun is currently OP? well lets respec into it" "oh they fixed it, well that gun is OP now, lets try it out" if you make resets available this will happen.

Hmm if you have the money too keep doing that by all means it doesn't take be 3-4 days to get any weapon to proto. Not only that ATM the only op weapon is the laser but u don't see everyone with one do u? And they made the game that unbalanced I would just quit if we really go into weapon of the week mode.

But the fact is that you have to earn those sp to get those weapons, not spend so much AUR or isk and then switch to it instantly.

either way, do u not earn the sp? To my knowledge there is no current other way. So if what you say is true if I was to stop playing for a month then came back I would have no rights to my sp because if used it to buy a tank I didn't earn it. This how I take what your saying.

Or are we saying just because your sp is reset u somehow didn't spend untold hrs to get it.

Interesting how CCP never brought this up during the past ten years. Doubt they would for another ten.

either way, do u not earn the sp? To my knowledge there is no current other way. So if what you say is true if I was to stop playing for a month then came back I would have no rights to my sp because if used it to buy a tank I didn't earn it. This how I take what your saying.

Or are we saying just because your sp is reset u somehow didn't spend untold hrs to get it.

bottom line on how people will see things: If you can use real money to give yourself an edge in battle in a meaningful way like... idk.... changing your specialization to be the exact counter needed. That's pay to win.

+1 for more logic.......... I am impressed.

Was I never logical in the past? lol


Troll logic > real logic