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Posted - 2013.03.30 22:00:00 -
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source please? |
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how can you "almost guarantee" you're just guessing here and so is everyone else, if you have some specific info that the rest of us lack please share it. |
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NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:gbghg wrote:how can you "almost guarantee" you're just guessing here and so is everyone else, if you have some specific info that the rest of us lack please share it. There is no such thing as a almost guarantee I'm just guessing like everyone else. But I like to think I'm being more realistic.
Then please make your OP reflect that. And the demand for a reset is mixed, some people want one, others don't. but the one thing that alot of players will be unhappy about is paying for a rest |
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NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:gbghg wrote:NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:gbghg wrote:how can you "almost guarantee" you're just guessing here and so is everyone else, if you have some specific info that the rest of us lack please share it. There is no such thing as a almost guarantee I'm just guessing like everyone else. But I like to think I'm being more realistic. Then please make your OP reflect that. And the demand for a reset is mixed, some people want one, others don't. but the one thing that alot of players will be unhappy about is paying for a rest Don't come here trying to argue dude take your ...... else where I'm not changing anything because you say. if you thought I could somehow guarantee u anything not my fault.
I did not, but saying you can "almost guarantee" something then going on to say that "There is no such thing as a almost guarantee" makes no sense. |
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NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:Something some of us seem to overlook with our give me give me attitudes. This is a free to play game we don't have to drop a cent on it. And ccp will still take our complaints and suggestions like we played 60$ for it. Now while we didn't or did pay for this game it does not take away from the fact that it cost $$$$$$$$$$$ to develop. And we will be getting two FREE expansions a year. What damn right do we have to complain about what they charge us or don't charge us for.... Simple fix don't buy it or don't play the free game.
The complaint is that this is a F2P game, not a P2W one. CCP themselves have stated that they don't want this to be a P2W game, that's why all the AURUM items (well most of them) have isk variants, if they do offer a SP reset, it should be a 1 time free offer anything else would give credence to the P2W arguments. and yes i'll accept it as a grammar error. |
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NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:
Thank you sota I do like examples but yours is flawed. This is why first if this was to happen it would not happen before May 6th hence a battle that you speak if is not possible. Second even if you could respec to a proto tank pro anything does mean you have the skill to use it. Would u really trust that much Isk to someone that rarely or never uses a tank? I think not lets. Go the other way and say that they can use the gear well the cost of switching back and forth would not be worth the effort. Some could afford it I'm sure but not many.
Please go to the war room and read the recent PRO fiasco, that example is the key reason why there should be no sp reset, it means everything will end up as flavor as the month, " that gun is currently OP? well lets respec into it" "oh they fixed it, well that gun is OP now, lets try it out" if you make resets available this will happen. |
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NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:gbghg wrote:NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:
Thank you sota I do like examples but yours is flawed. This is why first if this was to happen it would not happen before May 6th hence a battle that you speak if is not possible. Second even if you could respec to a proto tank pro anything does mean you have the skill to use it. Would u really trust that much Isk to someone that rarely or never uses a tank? I think not lets. Go the other way and say that they can use the gear well the cost of switching back and forth would not be worth the effort. Some could afford it I'm sure but not many.
Please go to the war room and read the recent PRO fiasco, that example is the key reason why there should be no sp reset, it means everything will end up as flavor as the month, " that gun is currently OP? well lets respec into it" "oh they fixed it, well that gun is OP now, lets try it out" if you make resets available this will happen. Hmm if you have the money too keep doing that by all means it doesn't take be 3-4 days to get any weapon to proto. Not only that ATM the only op weapon is the laser but u don't see everyone with one do u? And they made the game that unbalanced I would just quit if we really go into weapon of the week mode.
But the fact is that you have to earn those sp to get those weapons, not spend so much AUR or isk and then switch to it instantly. |
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NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:gbghg wrote:NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:gbghg wrote:NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:
Thank you sota I do like examples but yours is flawed. This is why first if this was to happen it would not happen before May 6th hence a battle that you speak if is not possible. Second even if you could respec to a proto tank pro anything does mean you have the skill to use it. Would u really trust that much Isk to someone that rarely or never uses a tank? I think not lets. Go the other way and say that they can use the gear well the cost of switching back and forth would not be worth the effort. Some could afford it I'm sure but not many.
Please go to the war room and read the recent PRO fiasco, that example is the key reason why there should be no sp reset, it means everything will end up as flavor as the month, " that gun is currently OP? well lets respec into it" "oh they fixed it, well that gun is OP now, lets try it out" if you make resets available this will happen. Hmm if you have the money too keep doing that by all means it doesn't take be 3-4 days to get any weapon to proto. Not only that ATM the only op weapon is the laser but u don't see everyone with one do u? And they made the game that unbalanced I would just quit if we really go into weapon of the week mode. But the fact is that you have to earn those sp to get those weapons, not spend so much AUR or isk and then switch to it instantly. either way, do u not earn the sp? To my knowledge there is no current other way. So if what you say is true if I was to stop playing for a month then came back I would have no rights to my sp because if used it to buy a tank I didn't earn it. This how I take what your saying. Or are we saying just because your sp is reset u somehow didn't spend untold hrs to get it.
no.. just... lets go with this
you have 3 mil sp into an assault ar build, you decide you want to be a tanker, now in the normal course of things you earn extra sp both passive and active and you spec into them on top of your existing skills, lets say this takes you 1.5 mil sp to achieve, you now have a total of 4.5 mil sp and 2 specializations.
with an sp reset the following happens
you have 3 mil sp into an assault ar build, you decide you want to be a tanker, you buy/use a respec option, you now have 3 mil sp into a tank specilization having given up your previous build. you now have a total of 3 mil sp and 1 specialization
an sp reset ruins the idea of making meaningful choices with your sp. |
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NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:undeadsoldier90 wrote:SoTa PoP wrote: bottom line on how people will see things: If you can use real money to give yourself an edge in battle in a meaningful way like... idk.... changing your specialization to be the exact counter needed. That's pay to win. +1 for more logic.......... I am impressed. Was I never logical in the past? lol  Troll logic > real logic again flawed how can you counter the unknown if you can't respec in battle I can't see how this is p2w nor have u given an example to prove your point.
No you're misunderstanding again, here's a scenario to help you understand.
Your going into a corp battle in 30 minutes against a corp that is known to be tank heavy, your side doesn't have that many AV guys capable of taking them out, so you have members A,b,C respec into AV so they can deal with them. However it's just as likely that the other team has anticapated that you will do something like this, and have had members A,B,C on their side respec away from tanks into anti AV fits namely infantry.
a respec system would blow the whole idea of picking your members for certain batles and gathering intel on what fits enemy players use out of the window. |
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We have told you multiple times that it's P2W and even gave you good examples, and please show me where all the requests got an do reset are, because I've seen more people arguing against one then for one. |
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General Tiberius1 wrote:gbghg wrote:We have told you multiple times that it's P2W and even gave you good examples, and please show me where all the requests got an do reset are, because I've seen more people arguing against one then for one. \  are we de-railing this thread next gbghg? 
No this thread is for serious discussion, and now I must sleep |
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NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:NIKIA BETHUNE wrote: you guys win lol I'm tired of talking about something I could care less about. Thanks for the interesting debate with limited trolling nice to have a convo on the forums without pointless hate So all this time I thought you were actually serious. In reality you basically showed every Newberry why the idea of pay-to-respec won't fly in the DUST community. Interesting. You got me, bro. lmao everytime i try to go someone else talks **** for no reason? what's your deal now? what did i say to you now?
This forum will never let you leave, if you try to keep up with the threads. the only way to leave this place is to post and then immediately close the page. |
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:get real, don't go unreal
Wondered how long it would take that joke to make an appearance. |
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:gbghg wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:get real, don't go unreal Wondered how long it would take that joke to make an appearance. so is it a good or bad joke?
saw it coming from a mile away and was tempted to use it myself, so average. |
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