People have the right to afk if they want to, however I also have the right to TK them and get them kicked from the game. so stuff balances out in the end.

I'll make it simple for the author:
- Anybody who wants CCP to succeed where this game lasts for years as intended is against AFKing.
- Anybody who only cares about their self staying ahead in SP in the short term is for AFKing.
I say that with pure confidence as AFKers are ruining Skirmish play for other players who actually want to play the game. Those that have been with DUST a while will stick with it through this crap but new players will simply move on to the next game rather than endure the extensive AFKing going on.

I'll make it simple for the author:
- Anybody who wants CCP to succeed where this game lasts for years as intended is against AFKing.
- Anybody who only cares about their self staying ahead in SP in the short term is for AFKing.
I say that with pure confidence as AFKers are ruining Skirmish play for other players who actually want to play the game. Those that have been with DUST a while will stick with it through this crap but new players will simply move on to the next game rather than endure the extensive AFKing going on.

same 'ol maps

months with out word of when the update is coming out

redlined

boring gameplay

People have the right to afk if they want to, however I also have the right to TK them and get them kicked from the game. so stuff balances out in the end.

whats the point of getting all the sp and then not doing anything with it cause all you do is afk farm

I'll make it simple for the author:
- Anybody who wants CCP to succeed where this game lasts for years as intended is against AFKing.
- Anybody who only cares about their self staying ahead in SP in the short term is for AFKing.
I say that with pure confidence as AFKers are ruining Skirmish play for other players who actually want to play the game. Those that have been with DUST a while will stick with it through this crap but new players will simply move on to the next game rather than endure the extensive AFKing going on.

There's no such thing as "same old maps" to new players.


Again, a new and not yet invested player is not going to give a crap about updates.


Being redlined is pretty easy to happen when 25% of your team is AFKing. Once your team recognizes a chunk of the team is AFKing, another 25% to 50% starts only sniping as they get tired of being constantly overrun by greater numbers.


I've heard this a lot in the BS AFK excuses I've heard. What I don't understand is if the game is SO boring, why keep playing to the extent where you'll AFK? Do you really expect the gameply to be totally redefined or something? No, you obviously don't think the game is that boring; you're just trying to take a shortcut to get ahead.

Long story short, AFKing is hurting DUST (even though I've actually heard a few say they AFK to help it ).

The point is they can accrue SP and ISK without risking any of their own gear in the process. That way, when they actually feel like playing, they'll have plenty of SP and ISK to come into a match with higher end gear and dominate. Then, they can go back and AFK. In the end, it's all gain for little loss yet those who do it do not think it an exploit.

I care less and less as I grow tired of the game in its current form, but I still hate the entitled attitude of the pro-AFK camp. It's also self defeating to boost your own character at the expense of the game's survival. Dust is going to have a hard enough time attracting new players, and AFKing just exacerbates the problem this game has with wildly unbalanced pub-stomping.

Basically, you guys are robbing a bank whilst simultaneously devaluing your stolen currency. Who wants to be the unbeatable master of a game nobody else plays?

Also, it is straight up cowardly. Not just in the usual "I hate dying because my self esteem is disturbingly entwined with my performance in virtual warfare simulators" way, but in the sense that the AFKers are afraid to fight without an SP advantage. Losing a close game is way more fun and interesting than steamrolling people, and the bored of stomping AFKers are just going to find themselves bored with the next build this way.

That said, it's not technically cheating (yet [wink wink, devs]) and hasn't been affecting me much, personally. (In fact, I think the game is a bit easier with so many Imps and Bunnys stowing themselves away.)


Won't somebody please think of the poor blueberries. They're not all as terrible as they collectively appear; this game is just downright brutal to fresh meat. A lot of them probably don't get the chance to even see the other side of the maps in order to learn the lay of the land until they get into a match that spawns them on that side.

You call it an "exploit" however I fail to see where the AFKer has an unfair ability to do this. Everyone had this ability so how can it be an exploit. If you mean exploit in "not being used as intended" then you are wrong there too. CCP made it so that time in game is worth more than playing the game. AFKers are gaining SP as is intended in the same amounts as those who play the game. AFKing is not a glitch it was an intended consquence because CCP wanted the people who cant play well to get rewarded equally with those who can. As a result those who can play well may choose not to play well so that they can get the same benefit as those who cant play well. Its true socialism at its finest. When rewards are equal across the bar no matter your performance then why perform higher than the minimum standard necessary to gain that reward?

Bad matchmaking or the lack of any. That has nothing to do with people AFK.

Noobs should be vs noobs. If that was the case, then the beta vets would be vs each other, and new players won't be affected by this...which tbh, is lol worthy to say the least. Think their biggest problem is going against good players in proto gear, but hey, seeing people AFK must make them super mad!

You're talking to people that take pub games like it's the most important thing in this World ever dude.

Referring to your last BS AFKing excuse, I'm sure there are a lot of new players in CBs too, huh?.
No, seriosuly, pub matches are all new players see. Thanks to AFKing compounding other problems, it's probably all some new players will ever see.

If you care about it as much as I do then you need to tell CCP every chance you get that they need to change the SP system. Attacking the AFKers for gaining SP using the system that was intended does nothing more than split the community between pro AFKers and anti AFKers meanwhile CCP gets a free pass for (what we believe to be) a bad design. If they dont want to change the design then they want a socialistic system in place for SP gain and you cant complain when AFKers understand this and choose to meet only the minimum requirements rather than be tryhards in pub matches.

It's not exactly that I'm morally opposed to it, although it is frustrating to get devastated in a match because a quarter of your team isn't playing. I just don't understand why you would waste the energy. I never AFK, and I still have fun in matches with the SP I've got. It seems like psychologically unhealthy (obsessive-compulsive) behavior.