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Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2258	Posted - 2013.03.31 06:18:00 - [181] - Quote General Tiberius1 wrote: i don't have first hand knowledge, but everyone who's trolled on these forums has pissed SOMEONE off SoTa hasn't. I think I may have a few haters, but he doesn't.
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 409	Posted - 2013.03.31 06:21:00 - [182] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: General Tiberius1 wrote: i don't have first hand knowledge, but everyone who's trolled on these forums has pissed SOMEONE off SoTa hasn't. I think I may have a few haters, but he doesn't. how is that possible?
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1812	Posted - 2013.03.31 06:22:00 - [183] - Quote Me defending a racist flared up some emotions on me - but almost all of them respected me for my stance of freedom of speech. I think only Beld would have any reason at all to hate me but even then I publically apologized to him. My corp mates laughed hard at me saying this earlier - but I'm a humble troll lol
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 409	Posted - 2013.03.31 06:26:00 - [184] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Me defending a racist flared up some emotions on me - but almost all of them respected me for my stance of freedom of speech. I think only Beld would have any reason at all to hate me but even then I publically apologized to him. My corp mates laughed hard at me saying this earlier - but I'm a humble troll lol when did THIS happen? and humble my ass
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1812	Posted - 2013.03.31 06:28:00 - [185] - Quote General Tiberius1 wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: General Tiberius1 wrote: i don't have first hand knowledge, but everyone who's trolled on these forums has pissed SOMEONE off SoTa hasn't. I think I may have a few haters, but he doesn't. how is that possible? I just realized today going through old posts and using search engine - no one has ever called me an imp till today. I wonder why, I honestly thought I'd fit in lol. Must be because of the lack of hate :(
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1812	Posted - 2013.03.31 06:30:00 - [186] - Quote General Tiberius1 wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Me defending a racist flared up some emotions on me - but almost all of them respected me for my stance of freedom of speech. I think only Beld would have any reason at all to hate me but even then I publically apologized to him. My corp mates laughed hard at me saying this earlier - but I'm a humble troll lol when did THIS happen? and humble my ass search using keywords vemon and racist lol It continues on to a thread where I called out a few people for sending me PSN hate mail over the matter. Worst part of it all - Venom leaves us to make his own corp - lolol
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 410	Posted - 2013.03.31 06:31:00 - [187] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: General Tiberius1 wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Me defending a racist flared up some emotions on me - but almost all of them respected me for my stance of freedom of speech. I think only Beld would have any reason at all to hate me but even then I publically apologized to him. My corp mates laughed hard at me saying this earlier - but I'm a humble troll lol when did THIS happen? and humble my ass search using keywords vemon and racist lol It continues on to a thread where I called out a few people for sending me PSN hate mail over the matter. Worst part of it all - Venom leaves us to make his own corp - lolol will do. and ha! you didn't deny it
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1812	Posted - 2013.03.31 06:31:00 - [188] - Quote General Tiberius1 wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: General Tiberius1 wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Me defending a racist flared up some emotions on me - but almost all of them respected me for my stance of freedom of speech. I think only Beld would have any reason at all to hate me but even then I publically apologized to him. My corp mates laughed hard at me saying this earlier - but I'm a humble troll lol when did THIS happen? and humble my ass search using keywords vemon and racist lol It continues on to a thread where I called out a few people for sending me PSN hate mail over the matter. Worst part of it all - Venom leaves us to make his own corp - lolol will do. and ha! you didn't deny it I can't help I'm better then most.
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 410	Posted - 2013.03.31 06:34:00 - [189] - Quote i type in racist and get zipo, and venom got me 6 pages of stuff, no idea where to vegin. i'll take your word for it
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1812	Posted - 2013.03.31 06:38:00 - [190] - Quote General Tiberius1 wrote: i type in racist and get zipo, and venom got me 6 pages of stuff, no idea where to vegin. i'll take your word for it https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=59219 Found the original thread too just typing Venom lol -but this is the relevant thread

General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 410	Posted - 2013.03.31 06:42:00 - [191] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: General Tiberius1 wrote: i type in racist and get zipo, and venom got me 6 pages of stuff, no idea where to vegin. i'll take your word for it https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=59219 Found the original thread too just typing Venom lol -but this is the relevant thread i said there were 6 pages of threads, and i dont know the name LMAO, was this while you were in ZION? this is an interesting read
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1812	Posted - 2013.03.31 06:44:00 - [192] - Quote General Tiberius1 wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: General Tiberius1 wrote: i type in racist and get zipo, and venom got me 6 pages of stuff, no idea where to vegin. i'll take your word for it https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=59219 Found the original thread too just typing Venom lol -but this is the relevant thread i said there were 6 pages of threads, and i dont know the name Well, there ya go, that's been the only time I've received honest hate lol Good times. EDIT: Nope - Impswarm.
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 410	Posted - 2013.03.31 06:47:00 - [193] - Quote LMAO, skipped to the end, eternes response is priceless
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1812	Posted - 2013.03.31 06:58:00 - [194] - Quote General Tiberius1 wrote: LMAO, skipped to the end, eternes response is priceless and yeah, not the only black sheep in Texas are you one of the renaissance re-enacters? where is this sherrif clark? classic name lol he's an alt of someone who identity is still known to but few. And no - I'm not lol. Eternes response could be easily countered as the threads topic was over my hate mail and was using the other thread as a reference - something not against forum rules. But that thread needed death :P Shame he deleted half the posts.
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 410	Posted - 2013.03.31 07:04:00 - [195] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: General Tiberius1 wrote: LMAO, skipped to the end, eternes response is priceless and yeah, not the only black sheep in Texas are you one of the renaissance re-enacters? where is this sherrif clark? classic name lol he's an alt of someone who identity is still known to but few. And no - I'm not lol. Eternes response could be easily countered as the threads topic was over my hate mail and was using the other thread as a reference - something not against forum rules. But that thread needed death :P Shame he deleted half the posts. it looked like it was getting out of hand. and srry about your cat. also, SOOO many Texans in this game
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1812	Posted - 2013.03.31 07:08:00 - [196] - Quote General Tiberius1 wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: General Tiberius1 wrote: LMAO, skipped to the end, eternes response is priceless and yeah, not the only black sheep in Texas are you one of the renaissance re-enacters? where is this sherrif clark? classic name lol he's an alt of someone who identity is still known to but few. And no - I'm not lol. Eternes response could be easily countered as the threads topic was over my hate mail and was using the other thread as a reference - something not against forum rules. But that thread needed death :P Shame he deleted half the posts. it looked like it was getting out of hand. and srry about your cat. also, SOOO many Texans in this game Tons of Texans lol. And the cat - she left me a litter before she died so I transferred her love over. <3 Todays drama is boring, forums aren't as fun to read as they used to be. Imps finally got tired of the lime light and are hanging back - makin' this dull for me lol
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 410	Posted - 2013.03.31 07:10:00 - [197] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: General Tiberius1 wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: General Tiberius1 wrote: LMAO, skipped to the end, eternes response is priceless and yeah, not the only black sheep in Texas are you one of the renaissance re-enacters? where is this sherrif clark? classic name lol he's an alt of someone who identity is still known to but few. And no - I'm not lol. Eternes response could be easily countered as the threads topic was over my hate mail and was using the other thread as a reference - something not against forum rules. But that thread needed death :P Shame he deleted half the posts. it looked like it was getting out of hand. and srry about your cat. also, SOOO many Texans in this game Tons of Texans lol. And the cat - she left me a litter before she died so I transferred her love over. <3 Todays drama is boring, forums aren't as fun to read as they used to be. Imps finally got tired of the lime light and are hanging back - makin' this dull for me lol well, you're part of the allaince, lighten it up! ugh, whish we could all just make one uber allaince and go around stomping in pub matches like the good ol days
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 410	Posted - 2013.03.31 07:13:00 - [198] - Quote damn, this was AFTER you left? you've been gone longer than i thought. and i also have been afk from the actual game for longer then i thought as well. lol
Chojine Dentetsu Academy Inferno 5	Posted - 2013.03.31 10:29:00 - [199] - Quote I think a good idea would be to implement a countdown timer not unlike the red zone timer. 20 seconds is all you need to leave the MCC, I mean, CCP could even changed it to 60 seconds if it was that much of an issue. The red zone timer signifies you are out of the allocated combat zone, staying in the MCC is exactly the same as this, so a timer makes perfect sense to me. No need to grenade afk people in the MCC, no need to have an option to kick them, just take away the ability to afk in the MCC. Simples!
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2265	Posted - 2013.03.31 10:37:00 - [200] - Quote Chojine Dentetsu wrote: I think a good idea would be to implement a countdown timer not unlike the red zone timer. 20 seconds is all you need to leave the MCC, I mean, CCP could even changed it to 60 seconds if it was that much of an issue. The red zone timer signifies you are out of the allocated combat zone, staying in the MCC is exactly the same as this, so a timer makes perfect sense to me. No need to grenade afk people in the MCC, no need to have an option to kick them, just take away the ability to afk in the MCC. Simples! This is brilliant. +1.

SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1820	Posted - 2013.03.31 10:45:00 - [201] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Chojine Dentetsu wrote: I think a good idea would be to implement a countdown timer not unlike the red zone timer. 20 seconds is all you need to leave the MCC, I mean, CCP could even changed it to 60 seconds if it was that much of an issue. The red zone timer signifies you are out of the allocated combat zone, staying in the MCC is exactly the same as this, so a timer makes perfect sense to me. No need to grenade afk people in the MCC, no need to have an option to kick them, just take away the ability to afk in the MCC. Simples! This is brilliant. +1. accept it doesn't solve the problem. MCC camping is just the safest - not the only way. Game really should boot for not receiving WP after a certain time.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2265	Posted - 2013.03.31 10:53:00 - [202] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Chojine Dentetsu wrote: I think a good idea would be to implement a countdown timer not unlike the red zone timer. 20 seconds is all you need to leave the MCC, I mean, CCP could even changed it to 60 seconds if it was that much of an issue. The red zone timer signifies you are out of the allocated combat zone, staying in the MCC is exactly the same as this, so a timer makes perfect sense to me. No need to grenade afk people in the MCC, no need to have an option to kick them, just take away the ability to afk in the MCC. Simples! This is brilliant. +1. accept it doesn't solve the problem. MCC camping is just the safest - not the only way. Game really should boot for not receiving WP after a certain time. All the other options leave you open for something called "getting killed". When you "get killed" while AFK, you get thrown out and miss out on all the ISK and SP. Which is why Ambush AFKers are so much fun.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 944	Posted - 2013.03.31 13:39:00 - [203] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Chojine Dentetsu wrote: I think a good idea would be to implement a countdown timer not unlike the red zone timer. 20 seconds is all you need to leave the MCC, I mean, CCP could even changed it to 60 seconds if it was that much of an issue. The red zone timer signifies you are out of the allocated combat zone, staying in the MCC is exactly the same as this, so a timer makes perfect sense to me. No need to grenade afk people in the MCC, no need to have an option to kick them, just take away the ability to afk in the MCC. Simples! This is brilliant. +1. accept it doesn't solve the problem. MCC camping is just the safest - not the only way. Game really should boot for not receiving WP after a certain time. All the other options leave you open for something called "getting killed". When you "get killed" while AFK, you get thrown out and miss out on all the ISK and SP. Which is why Ambush AFKers are so much fun. yes but if you implemented that fix what would happen to redline snipers? who half the time are using the only decent sniping spots on the map. or what happens if your team gets redlined, what choice would it leave but to charge straight into the other teams guns and make it even harder to break out.
Natu Nobilis Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 15	Posted - 2013.03.31 13:48:00 - [204] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Chojine Dentetsu wrote: I think a good idea would be to implement a countdown timer not unlike the red zone timer. 20 seconds is all you need to leave the MCC, I mean, CCP could even changed it to 60 seconds if it was that much of an issue. The red zone timer signifies you are out of the allocated combat zone, staying in the MCC is exactly the same as this, so a timer makes perfect sense to me. No need to grenade afk people in the MCC, no need to have an option to kick them, just take away the ability to afk in the MCC. Simples! This is brilliant. +1. accept it doesn't solve the problem. MCC camping is just the safest - not the only way. Game really should boot for not receiving WP after a certain time. So if one goes around hacking cannons, dying miserably without killing anyone, and loosing the hack before it completes, and so, no WP, one should be kicked of the game? If a logi can-¦t find people to heal or revive in a certain ammount of time? If a sniper can-¦t instakill people in a certain ammount of time? Do you think this is fair? Right now the battles are meaningless. When the Planetary conquest is in place, the social groups will find their way of controling participation. Right now, it-¦s just an SP fest until something meaningful arrive. Relax, enjoy, and play the same map over and over again in a way that doesn-¦t affect the soontobe persistent world.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2270	Posted - 2013.03.31 13:56:00 - [205] - Quote gbghg wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Chojine Dentetsu wrote: I think a good idea would be to implement a countdown timer not unlike the red zone timer. 20 seconds is all you need to leave the MCC, I mean, CCP could even changed it to 60 seconds if it was that much of an issue. The red zone timer signifies you are out of the allocated combat zone, staying in the MCC is exactly the same as this, so a timer makes perfect sense to me. No need to grenade afk people in the MCC, no need to have an option to kick them, just take away the ability to afk in the MCC. Simples! This is brilliant. +1. accept it doesn't solve the problem. MCC camping is just the safest - not the only way. Game really should boot for not receiving WP after a certain time. All the other options leave you open for something called "getting killed". When you "get killed" while AFK, you get thrown out and miss out on all the ISK and SP. Which is why Ambush AFKers are so much fun. yes but if you implemented that fix what would happen to redline snipers? who half the time are using the only decent sniping spots on the map. or what happens if your team gets redlined, what choice would it leave but to charge straight into the other teams guns and make it even harder to break out. You noticed the part where it only includes the MCC, not the entire redline, right? Spawn at ground level in the redzone, no problem. You're on the ground, you're a potential target if someone wants to hunt you down. Spawn in the MCC, you have 20 seconds to jump. NOT 20 seconds to get into combat, or to get out of the redzone. Just to jump out and fall to ground level, where you're vulnerable.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 946	Posted - 2013.03.31 14:01:00 - [206] - Quote ah my mistake, i missed that part.
sharted pantaloon Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 38	Posted - 2013.03.31 15:13:00 - [207] - Quote LOL! 5259SP, 270K isk, 5 Thales sniper rifles, 575 war points. 1st on the team board and never left the MCC... No, nothing broken with this system at all...
Natu Nobilis Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 15	Posted - 2013.03.31 15:41:00 - [208] - Quote sharted pantaloon wrote: LOL! 0/0 5259SP, 270K isk, 5 Thales sniper rifles, 575 war points. 1st on the team board. Followed next match by 0/0 4591SP, 185k isk, 235WP, 5 creodrone breach AR, 5th on board. Never left the MCC. No, nothing broken with this system at all... Again, for now, it-¦s meaningless. When the mechanics tha require social gathering are implemented, if someone isn-¦t doing anything, they-¦ll be shot and killed by their own corpmates, than removed from the corporation. Social pressure > Any game mechanic
BlG MAMA PLAYSTATION4 35	Posted - 2013.03.31 15:49:00 - [209] - Quote The problem is the system. Doing nothing and still getting SP and ISK. If people dont want to participate in combat you cant stop them. They would go and hide and all that because they still get rewards. Now if rewards are given only to those who do something in the match (killing/hacking) as soon as one team is on the losing side people would disconnect most likely and the match would end and the winning team would only get few points and wasted time. Its a double edge sword ala Damocles with this "AFK farming" thing. Its just human nature. What is made by man can be undone by man. The only thing you can do if you are on the winning team is let them sit in the MCC and enjoy your victory and if you are on the losing team,well bad luck try again , at least you still get some points.
Natu Nobilis Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 15	Posted - 2013.03.31 15:56:00 - [210] - Quote BlG MAMA wrote: The problem is the system. Doing nothing and still getting SP and ISK. If people dont want to participate in combat you cant stop them. They would go and hide and all that because they still get rewards. Now if rewards are given only to those who do something in the match (killing/hacking) as soon as one team is on the losing side people would disconnect most likely and the match would end and the winning team would only get few points and wasted time. Its a double edge sword ala Damocles with this "AFK farming" thing. Its just human nature. What is made by man can be undone by man. The only thing you can do if you are on the winning team is let them sit in the MCC and enjoy your victory and if you are on the losing team,well bad luck try again , at least you still get some points. Define "reward" If one is a dropship pilot taking people from here to there, facilitating them to hack objectives, win the match and conquer a district, should everyone (his corp, his alliance) get points while he doesn-¦t get any ? If one is a commander, leading the team, calling the shots, monitoring the field activity, should he be the only one without rewards ? Any system can be abused, and the old fashioned way of disencouraging people of abusing systems, is to remove them from the system itself. Pub matches are just a bunch of nobodies together, corp matches and planetary conquer wil lbe the limiting factor of parasitic behaviour.



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