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        |  Noc Tempre
 Imperfects
 Negative-Feedback
 
 1283
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.03.27 16:05:00 -
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 Since apparently CCP is protecting my privacy by removing responses to my petition, I will gladly share proof over IRC instead.
 
 Continue to discuss here and I will build a quick google site of links to pastebins that respect CCP and SONY privacy.
 
 Again, limited to IRC for direct links.
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        |  Sentient Archon
 Red Star.
 
 869
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.03.27 16:09:00 -
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 Got your back on this as long as we can balance the future of this game and privacy
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        |  ReGnUM Slayer ofWorlds
 Imperfects Public Relations
 
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      | Posted - 2013.03.27 16:11:00 -
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 Noc you want to give me the info and I can give it to numerous online information sites.
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        |  CCP Eterne
 C C P
 C C P Alliance
 
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      | Posted - 2013.03.27 16:13:00 -
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 We are not in Commercial Release. Any statements of such from a GM was inaccurate.
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        |  Maken Tosch
 Planetary Response Organisation
 Test Friends Please Ignore
 
 1798
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.03.27 16:13:00 -
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 CCP really needs to step up their game in terms of communicating. I'm not taking about with us but with themselves (as in the GMs and Devs).
 
 But overall, CCP does have a ton of petitions to handle. Consider this:
 
 Eve Online (Tranquility Server - London): 500,000 Subscribers
 Eve Online (Serenity Server - China): about 100,000 or less subscribers
 Dust 514 (Tranquility Server): About 400,000 to 500,000 free accounts (assuming every player has created 3 alt characters)
 
 That's well over a million players to handle petitions from.
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        |  KryptixX
 Imperfects
 Negative-Feedback
 
 361
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.03.27 16:13:00 -
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 They deleted your first thread? lawl
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        |  Maken Tosch
 Planetary Response Organisation
 Test Friends Please Ignore
 
 1798
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.03.27 16:13:00 -
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 CCP Eterne wrote:We are not in Commercial Release. Any statements of such from a GM was inaccurate. 
 Tagging this thread for future reference.
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        |  ReGnUM Slayer ofWorlds
 Imperfects Public Relations
 
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      | Posted - 2013.03.27 16:14:00 -
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 CCP Eterne wrote:We are not in Commercial Release. Any statements of such from a GM was inaccurate. 
 So we will get are AUR back then
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        |  KryptixX
 Imperfects
 Negative-Feedback
 
 361
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.03.27 16:15:00 -
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 CCP Eterne wrote:We are not in Commercial Release. Any statements of such from a GM was inaccurate. Meaning we will get AUR refunded on commercial release now?
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        |  Maken Tosch
 Planetary Response Organisation
 Test Friends Please Ignore
 
 1798
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.03.27 16:16:00 -
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 ReGnUM Slayer ofWorlds wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:We are not in Commercial Release. Any statements of such from a GM was inaccurate. So we will get are AUR back then   
 That's gonna be a lot of AUR to refund. I hope this doesn't screw over the New Eden economy when it opens.
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        |  Buster Friently
 Rosen Association
 
 198
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.03.27 16:16:00 -
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 Maken Tosch wrote:CCP really needs to step up their game in terms of communicating. I'm not taking about with us but with themselves (as in the GMs and Devs).
 But overall, CCP does have a ton of petitions to handle. Consider this:
 
 Eve Online (Tranquility Server - London): 500,000 Subscribers
 Eve Online (Serenity Server - China): about 100,000 or less subscribers
 Dust 514 (Tranquility Server): About 400,000 to 500,000 free accounts (assuming every player has created 3 alt characters)
 
 That's well over a million players to handle petitions from.
 
 Just FYI, according to dustboard, there are almost 2 million mercs created. Even if everyone had 3 characters, we'd be looking at nearly 700,000 dust accounts.
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        |  xxwhitedevilxx M
 Maphia Clan Corporation
 CRONOS.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.03.27 16:18:00 -
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 Maken Tosch wrote:ReGnUM Slayer ofWorlds wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:We are not in Commercial Release. Any statements of such from a GM was inaccurate. So we will get are AUR back then   That's gonna be a lot of AUR to refund. I hope this doesn't screw over the New Eden economy when it opens. Don't think so. Aur refund should mean that you get a total wipe of SP and assets. And you don't want it to happen, right?
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        |  Judy Maat
 Rebelles A Quebec
 Orion Empire
 
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      | Posted - 2013.03.27 16:19:00 -
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 They keep the number hidden until they actually hit the million..
 It's a PR tactic..
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        |  Iskandar Zul Karnain
 Hellstorm Inc
 League of Infamy
 
 275
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.03.27 16:20:00 -
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 If I lose all my closed beta BPOs I am going to ******* flip out.
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        |  CCP Eterne
 C C P
 C C P Alliance
 
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      | Posted - 2013.03.27 16:20:00 -
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 I'm afraid I can't comment on any plans for an AUR refund at the present moment. I will look into getting a more definitive answer for you guys.
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        |  steadyhand amarr
 Imperfects
 Negative-Feedback
 
 376
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.03.27 16:22:00 -
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 I think are Sp get refunded if they change that path for example the dropsuit rework
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        |  Cyn Bruin
 Imperfects
 Negative-Feedback
 
 745
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.03.27 16:23:00 -
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 CCP Eterne wrote:We are not in Commercial Release. Any statements of such from a GM was inaccurate. 
 
 And so you Banned Noc (yes he is banned from forums now) for this?
 
 All you had to do was remove the link, lock the post and give your explaination. Seems a little overkill wouldn't you say CCP ETERNE?
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        |  Maken Tosch
 Planetary Response Organisation
 Test Friends Please Ignore
 
 1798
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.03.27 16:30:00 -
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 Buster Friently wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:CCP really needs to step up their game in terms of communicating. I'm not taking about with us but with themselves (as in the GMs and Devs).
 But overall, CCP does have a ton of petitions to handle. Consider this:
 
 Eve Online (Tranquility Server - London): 500,000 Subscribers
 Eve Online (Serenity Server - China): about 100,000 or less subscribers
 Dust 514 (Tranquility Server): About 400,000 to 500,000 free accounts (assuming every player has created 3 alt characters)
 
 That's well over a million players to handle petitions from.
 Just FYI, according to dustboard, there are almost 2 million mercs created. Even if everyone had 3 characters, we'd be looking at nearly 700,000 dust accounts. 
 Damn, already that many?
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        |  Iron Wolf Saber
 BetaMax.
 CRONOS.
 
 3248
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.03.27 16:31:00 -
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 GMs before dust 514 where processing what 17,000 petitions a day.
 
 I haven't seen a new blog (but would love too) on how those numbers have changed.
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        |  Flamesea
 Shadow Company HQ
 
 4
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.03.27 16:31:00 -
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 xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:ReGnUM Slayer ofWorlds wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:We are not in Commercial Release. Any statements of such from a GM was inaccurate. So we will get are AUR back then   That's gonna be a lot of AUR to refund. I hope this doesn't screw over the New Eden economy when it opens. Don't think so. Aur refund should mean that you get a total wipe of SP and assets . And you don't want it to happen, right? 
 
 I bought my merc packs from PSN store (7 of them) 7-8 months ago. If i recall right it said (at that time in merc packs) that AUR is refunded when moving into Commercial Release ( not needing any wipe to that ).
 
 
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        |  Tiel Syysch
 Imperfects
 Negative-Feedback
 
 672
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.03.27 16:34:00 -
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 xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Aur refund should mean that you get a total wipe of SP and assets. 
 Nowhere says that the two must go hand-in-hand. Sure, it's how it's been happening in the past, but they aren't tied to each other.
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        |  Maken Tosch
 Planetary Response Organisation
 Test Friends Please Ignore
 
 1798
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.03.27 16:35:00 -
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 Flamesea wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:ReGnUM Slayer ofWorlds wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:We are not in Commercial Release. Any statements of such from a GM was inaccurate. So we will get are AUR back then   That's gonna be a lot of AUR to refund. I hope this doesn't screw over the New Eden economy when it opens. Don't think so. Aur refund should mean that you get a total wipe of SP and assets . And you don't want it to happen, right? I bought my merc packs from PSN store (7 of them) 7-8 months ago. If i recall right it said (at that time in merc packs) that AUR is refunded when moving into Commercial Release ( not needing any wipe to that ). 
 I agree. CCP did say there will be no more SP resets for certain and everyone seems to agree to that. The only thing that left on the table to discuss as a possibility is a possible SP reallocation (reimbursement of SP). Not sure about the assets though.
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        |  Sentient Archon
 Red Star.
 
 870
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.03.27 16:36:00 -
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 Cyn Bruin wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:We are not in Commercial Release. Any statements of such from a GM was inaccurate.  And so you Banned Noc (yes he is banned from forums now) for this?   All you had to do was remove the link, lock the post and give your explaination. Seems a little overkill wouldn't you say CCP ETERNE? 
 CCP doesn't like anything said against them. Happened to me too! It was the best thing ever. If I can get my forum account perma banned it would be the best thing ever. Anyways its prolly a good thing for Noc that he got banned. He can now take a break from this BS forum.
 
 I read everything btw!
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        |  CCP Eterne
 C C P
 C C P Alliance
 
 1175
 
 
  
 
      | Posted - 2013.03.27 16:46:00 -
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 I have removed discussion of moderation from this thread.
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        |  tribal wyvern
 ZionTCD
 Legacy Rising
 
 707
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.03.27 16:49:00 -
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 Well if a$$holes keep pushing for aur refund and we get it, that means sp wipe too, and reset of assets.
 Which means everyone (including myself) who purchased all bpo items before the price increase will lose those too. So those of us who created militia fits for cheap to fall back on....will be forced to spend $30 on one militia fit.
 Carry on trying to F uck things up people, you may just manage it.
 If the above happens, as much as I love dust, I'm done!
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        |  Commercially Released
 Sanmatar Kelkoons
 Minmatar Republic
 
 0
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.03.27 16:50:00 -
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 CCP Eterne wrote:We are not in Commercial Release. Any statements of such from a GM was inaccurate. 
 Can we assume that this means someone is actually looking into this instead of leaving the question open indefinitely?
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        |  Sky Hale
 On The Brink
 CRONOS.
 
 3
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.03.27 16:50:00 -
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 You can't confirm if we are getting our aur items refunded when we go into commercial release even though your product stated it would be ?.
 
 Dude this sounds like CCP are scamming the community.
 
 
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        |  Protoman Is God
 Red and Silver Hand
 Amarr Empire
 
 0
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.03.27 16:51:00 -
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 tribal wyvern wrote:Well if a$$holes keep pushing for aur refund and we get it, that means sp wipe too, and reset of assets.Which means everyone (including myself) who purchased all bpo items before the price increase will lose those too. So those of us who created militia fits for cheap to fall back on....will be forced to spend $30 on one militia fit.
 Carry on trying to F uck things up people, you may just manage it.
 If the above happens, as much as I love dust, I'm done!
 
 At this point, You really shouldn't be using militia fits unless your gameplay is that mediocre.
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        |  Illuminaughty-696
 Omega Risk Control Services
 
 229
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.03.27 16:51:00 -
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 tribal wyvern wrote:Well if a$$holes keep pushing for aur refund and we get it, that means sp wipe too, and reset of assets.Which means everyone (including myself) who purchased all bpo items before the price increase will lose those too. So those of us who created militia fits for cheap to fall back on....will be forced to spend $30 on one militia fit.
 Carry on trying to F uck things up people, you may just manage it.
 If the above happens, as much as I love dust, I'm done!
 
 Tribal, I could be off here, but my understanding is that there would be no more whipes UNTIL commercial release. We should still see an SP whipe for commercial release. This may have changed, just as CCP seems to be trying to change the AUR situation.
 
 Now, if CCP doesn't whipe our SP I might be able to get over no AUR refunded, but at the same time it was stated that it would be refunded upon commercial release. They may have ninja'd a change without telling anyone, but originally it was definitely to be refunded each SP reset AND commercial release.
 
 
 Flamesea wrote:I bought my merc packs from PSN store (7 of them) 7-8 months ago. If i recall right it said (at that time in merc packs) that AUR is refunded when moving into Commercial Release ( not needing any wipe to that ). 
 That's what it said when I bought them.
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        |  General Tiberius1
 ZionTCD
 Legacy Rising
 
 331
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.03.27 16:52:00 -
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 Maken Tosch wrote:ReGnUM Slayer ofWorlds wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:We are not in Commercial Release. Any statements of such from a GM was inaccurate. So we will get are AUR back then   That's gonna be a lot of AUR to refund. I hope this doesn't screw over the New Eden economy when it opens. 
 
 
 *holds on to his 30 day boosters till he can make billions off of them*
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