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Buster Friently
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Posted - 2013.03.27 16:16:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:CCP really needs to step up their game in terms of communicating. I'm not taking about with us but with themselves (as in the GMs and Devs).
But overall, CCP does have a ton of petitions to handle. Consider this:
Eve Online (Tranquility Server - London): 500,000 Subscribers
Eve Online (Serenity Server - China): about 100,000 or less subscribers
Dust 514 (Tranquility Server): About 400,000 to 500,000 free accounts (assuming every player has created 3 alt characters)
That's well over a million players to handle petitions from.
Just FYI, according to dustboard, there are almost 2 million mercs created. Even if everyone had 3 characters, we'd be looking at nearly 700,000 dust accounts. |
Buster Friently
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Posted - 2013.03.27 18:43:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:TheMarkOf22 wrote:The have to refund AUR, EULA states game is in beta, therefore a refund must be granted. I predict a SP reset if the AUR refund happens. CCP is not gonna let you hoard up all those SP and give you an AUR reset. they are gonna compel you to buy passive boosters. The only thing I will be glad about is that the game will finally be live in May! Woooooohoooooooooo! 
The game is already live. Do you mean launched? Or out of beta?
Maybe I've missed something, but I don't think they've said that May 6th/14th is the end of beta, have they?
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Buster Friently
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Posted - 2013.03.28 00:09:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:We are not in Commercial Release. Any statements of such from a GM was inaccurate. Wrong. Anyone who owns a playstation is able to download this game. CCP are taking money for products in this game, that is commerce. This is a commercial release.
I pretty much agree with this statement. Commercial release is a legal term, and I don't think CCP gets to define what it means to suit their desires. I'm no lawyer though.
I've seen this in other betas as well, namely MWO. They get around this issue by referring, not to commercial release, but to "launch" a made up term that the they can define however they want. |
Buster Friently
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:00:00 -
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Altina McAlterson wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Buster Friently wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:We are not in Commercial Release. Any statements of such from a GM was inaccurate. Wrong. Anyone who owns a playstation is able to download this game. CCP are taking money for products in this game, that is commerce. This is a commercial release. I pretty much agree with this statement. Commercial release is a legal term, and I don't think CCP gets to define what it means to suit their desires. I'm no lawyer though. I've seen this in other betas as well, namely MWO. They get around this issue by referring, not to commercial release, but to "launch" a made up term that the they can define however they want. No no, ICECREAM is right on this one. Commercial Release just means it's available to everyone, technically that would just make it an open beta, but the fact that they're charging for items brings it back to commercial release. Or is everyone who buys Aurum items at this point simply making donations? I don't think so CCP. So yeah, it's an incomplete game, but it's an incomplete game that they're selling If anyone can link some proof of any of this that would be very helpful. Especially any links that confirm companies are required by law to call the game an "open BETA" or "Commercial Release" because some criteria has been met. Since this is a download-only game there's no manufacturer to ship it to for production, so it seems the commercial release is whenever the hell CCP feels it calling it that. Until proof shows up there's this crap. These aren't intended to be conclusive, but it does seem apparent the BETA vs Release is based solely on the what the company thinks the state of the game is, not any other factors. http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/56334-clarification-closed-beta-vs-open-beta-vs-releaselaunch-and-status/http://mmohuts.com/editorials/what-does-closed-beta-meanI know those aren't links to precedent cases before the Supreme Court but it's interesting that the mechwarrior thread is very similar to what is being said here but I still haven't seen proof of any of it. Got tired of googling it after like 5 minutes.
MWO used their own label though "Launch" not "Commercial Release" Who knows really. I don't want to see a reset personally, and I hope they don't do one.
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Buster Friently
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:43:00 -
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JL3Eleven wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:You cannot force the people who bought merc packs to take a reset of SP if they want to get what you promised them. If you reset anyone you need to reset everyone, no option BS. Yes they can. How would that be fair? Here is what we promised you but you must give me something else? I'm fine with it as long as everyone gets reset to square one not just punishing those that actually support the game.
No one is forced to do something that they don't want to? That sounds pretty fair to me.
Specifically. I'm referring to the option part, not so much the "you must reset SP to get your AUR returned" |
Buster Friently
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:46:00 -
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JL3Eleven wrote:Buster Friently wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:You cannot force the people who bought merc packs to take a reset of SP if they want to get what you promised them. If you reset anyone you need to reset everyone, no option BS. Yes they can. How would that be fair? Here is what we promised you but you must give me something else? I'm fine with it as long as everyone gets reset to square one not just punishing those that actually support the game. No one is forced to do something that they don't want to? That sounds pretty fair to me. I would be forced to take a reset to get my promised Aurum instead of keeping my sp. So how is that not forcing me to do something?
Yeah, I realized my post wasn't too clear. I'm specifically referring to the option part, not so much that to get the AUR refunded, you'll need to take a reset to SP. |
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