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Posted - 2013.03.27 16:52:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:ReGnUM Slayer ofWorlds wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:We are not in Commercial Release. Any statements of such from a GM was inaccurate. So we will get are AUR back then  That's gonna be a lot of AUR to refund. I hope this doesn't screw over the New Eden economy when it opens.
*holds on to his 30 day boosters till he can make billions off of them* |
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CCP Eterne wrote:I'm afraid I can't comment on any plans for an AUR refund at the present moment. I will look into getting a more definitive answer for you guys.
and where did this thread come from anyway?
seems very random to me. |
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Posted - 2013.03.27 16:54:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:I have removed discussion of moderation from this thread.
without banning?
oooh! that makes me mad |
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Posted - 2013.03.27 16:59:00 -
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Tiel Syysch wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:Commercially Released wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:We are not in Commercial Release. Any statements of such from a GM was inaccurate. Can we assume that this means someone is actually looking into this instead of leaving the question open indefinitely? Yes. I sent out an e-mail about it a few minutes ago and will be following up on getting a proper answer in the next few days. But it is Easter and a large number of our team will be on holiday, so it may take some time to get a response. I hope you do. I was told marketing was looking into it back in Jan 24, and, well, here we are.
 wow....
i sense a lack of communication between Reykjavik and Shang Hai (or however they're spelled) |
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Posted - 2013.03.27 17:08:00 -
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making money will ALLWAYS be the primary focus maken, there's only so much we can do |
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Posted - 2013.03.27 17:08:00 -
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DeeJay One wrote:Isn't the whole idea of that thread in violation of forum rule number 9?
it is
i sense a double standard |
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Maken Tosch wrote:Moonracer2000 wrote:It is definitely a delicate situation for CCP to handle.
They did change the terms of merc pack sales around open beta (to remove any mention of reset on release), so if they reset it will probably only be for closed beta sales (still quite a bit).
A total reset would be a nightmare:
-people that bought militia BPOs when they were super cheap would be angry.
-people that have been grinding SP every day since open beta would be angry.
-people that have been stockpiling ISK would be angry.
-the reset would occur right as Planetary Conquest begins
- the only benefit might be for new players who join in on release to not be up against proto suits
A reset of just merc pack and AUR purchases from before the sales agreement change would also cause problems:
-people not included would feel it is unfair
-if the reset/refund doesn't effect SP people will be essentially getting free boosters (who used their AUR for that)
-if items bought with AUR weren't tracked and removed properly (or already used) it could lead to more complaints.
Either way CCP would lose a lot of potential future sales. Sure the merc packs sold would not cause a loss (they are virtual items, free to restore) but that would also mean fewer merc packs and AUR people would buy again in the near future.
I bought two merc packs before open beta and personally would rather support the game than make demands on a technicality. As long as there is no SP wipe or character reset, I feel I put my AUR and 30 day boosters to use as intended. So basically what you're saying is that CCP is screwed no matter which route they take. Appease the pro-refund folks and you pee off those who see it as unfair for those who didn't invest any AUR and create a problem with the Dust economy and ultimately nearly kill Dust (which is really, really bad). Appease the anti-refund folks and you end up with a bunch of closed-beta players wanting to file a lawsuit on the company which would result in the loss of revenue needed to sustain Dust. Wow, there is no solution to this.
yeah, that refund clause in the closed beta merc packs has been screenshotted by several people, i see no easy solution here |
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Posted - 2013.03.27 18:31:00 -
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ah, now i see where this thread is comming from.
been awhile since i last saw anything about refunds due to closed beta purchases
(that sticky issue of buying arum with the promise of a refund) 
what was CCP thinking? |
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Posted - 2013.03.27 19:59:00 -
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Luke Vetri wrote:For the love of Kittens lock it already
There is so much mis-information here its stupid
CCP is probably enjoying all the trolling and idiocy in it
HI FOXFOUR!!!! o/ |
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Posted - 2013.03.27 20:15:00 -
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sharted pantaloon wrote:heh, I really don't need my 20 bucks worth of aurum back at the expense of 4 months of SP grinding and my cheap BPO suits.
If they do reset SP, I hope to god they decide to change the SP payout system to 100% pasive like eve. That way I can just log on for 5 minutes once a day to assign my skill cue for the next few months while I allow the preparation H to have it's full effect.
pure FPS players who have never played eve would throw a hissy fit
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Posted - 2013.03.27 20:17:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:
This quote says:
"We currently have no plans to reset your characters' skill points to a state where they are equivalent to a newly created character, barring something catastrophic."
Resetting my character's SP (retains the character),
to a state equal to having created a new character (No longer having any SP allocated into any skill),
will only happen if there is something catastrophic.
See? Assets are are not part of this, nor BPO, Nor ISK, Nor character name.
The only grey area (which would be scummy at best) is what happens to the SP that is taken out of your skills.
The ONLY thing stated here for logical certainty is that they MAY have to remove SP from skills
A'hh I missed that. Still the refund part came before CCP decided to this would be that last SP reset. So technically, if people want to take CCP to court over this then the "refund" part would override the part about "no Sp reset" . People want to have their cake, eat it, and then get their money back anyway.
the closed beta merc packs had wording that should never have been there, it allowed fot this whole mess
(even though i bought one of them, i'd prefer we just move on) |
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Posted - 2013.03.28 00:08:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:We are not in Commercial Release. Any statements of such from a GM was inaccurate. Wrong. Anyone who owns a playstation is able to download this game. CCP are taking money for products in this game, that is commerce. This is a commercial release.
don't use logic on them, they'll just get pissy |
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Posted - 2013.03.28 01:45:00 -
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yeah, PR doesn't sound like a fun job |
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