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Sloth9230
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:29:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Gunner Nightingale wrote:I ADAPT OR DIE
HTFU
That's nice, but noobs don't have the option to adapt, because like you said, they lack the SP. Newberries are the only people who have a problem facing tanks, I don't have a problem with tanks, but I would like an IO mode. Whats the problem? Invest the tiny amount of sp it requires with the starting sp and boom, you can kill tanks. I use swarm launchers with only 2 levels into it You can say that because you have experience with dust, newberries see the skill sheet and don't know wtf to do. It's those same newberries that go up against 5 tanks and never switch to AV. |
JW v Weingarten
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:29:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Knight SoIaire wrote:It doesn't take much to invest into some AV fittings.
I got to Forge Gunning Lvl 2, got an Assault Forge Gun, threw on a Complex Damage Modifier and picked some AV grenades.
That fitting only costs 29k ISK, compared to the 1mil a well fit tank might cost.
I can still take out a tank, I have done so, took out one today without it even seeing me.
This arguement is aimed at those Assault players who skill into nothing but ARs and Assault dropsuits then complain when a tank rolls over them and they cant fight back.
What do you expect? Wrong. I have Proto FG's and Adv. Nades... yet I still would like to see an infantry only game mode. Edit: Plus i have Adv. Swarms...
I have a Sagaris with proto turreys...yet I still would like to see an infantry only game mode.
not only assault people that want this. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:30:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Gunner Nightingale wrote:I ADAPT OR DIE
HTFU
That's nice, but noobs don't have the option to adapt, because like you said, they lack the SP. Newberries are the only people who have a problem facing tanks, I don't have a problem with tanks, but I would like an IO mode. Whats the problem? then stick a matchmaking system that groups together those with under 1 million sp and stop people dropping multi-million sp tanks on them. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:31:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote: Then why would we need to separate by weapons?
Because why not? Split the player base? Skirmish and the eventual PVE will already do that.
You're that guy telling Naughty Dog to cut multiplier from Uncharted because all you ever do is play story mode. |
Knight SoIaire
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:32:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Knight SoIaire wrote:It doesn't take much to invest into some AV fittings.
I got to Forge Gunning Lvl 2, got an Assault Forge Gun, threw on a Complex Damage Modifier and picked some AV grenades.
That fitting only costs 29k ISK, compared to the 1mil a well fit tank might cost.
I can still take out a tank, I have done so, took out one today without it even seeing me.
This arguement is aimed at those Assault players who skill into nothing but ARs and Assault dropsuits then complain when a tank rolls over them and they cant fight back.
What do you expect? Wrong. I have Proto FG's and Adv. Nades... yet I still would like to see an infantry only game mode. Edit: Plus i have Adv. Swarms...
Why?
Tanks are fun to go up against, there is nothing as fun in this game as wasting an expensive tank. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:32:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Gunner Nightingale wrote:I ADAPT OR DIE
HTFU
That's nice, but noobs don't have the option to adapt, because like you said, they lack the SP. Newberries are the only people who have a problem facing tanks, I don't have a problem with tanks, but I would like an IO mode. Whats the problem? Invest the tiny amount of sp it requires with the starting sp and boom, you can kill tanks. I use swarm launchers with only 2 levels into it You can say that because you have experience with dust, newberries see the skill sheet and don't know wtf to do. It's those same newberries that go up against 5 tanks and never switch to AV. I did the same the first time i played in june, however I wasn't taking tanks down with the efficiency using standard gear |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:33:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote: Then why would we need to separate by weapons?
Because why not? Split the player base? Skirmish and the eventual PVE will already do that. You're that guy telling Naughty Dog to cut multiplier from Uncharted because all you ever do is play story mode. That doesn't split the player base, it gives people more options without limiting what they use to play |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:34:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote: Why?
Tanks are fun to go up against, there is nothing as fun in this game as wasting an expensive tank.
Fun for you, what do you have against CCP catering to other people sense of fun?
What? No, don't add Indian food to the menu, I wont eat it anyway. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
578
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:37:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote: Then why would we need to separate by weapons?
Because why not? Split the player base? Skirmish and the eventual PVE will already do that. You're that guy telling Naughty Dog to cut multiplier from Uncharted because all you ever do is play story mode. That doesn't split the player base, it gives people more options without limiting what they use to play It doesn't matter, it's still limiting them.
Dude, if you want to play against tanks, THEN DON'T GO INTO IO MODE, NO ONE IS ******* LIMITING YOU, THAT HAS GOT TO BE THE STUPIDEST THING I'VE EVER READ. A new mode in no way limits what you can do as long as you have alternatives. |
Gunner Nightingale
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:38:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Gunner Nightingale wrote:I ADAPT OR DIE
HTFU
That's nice, but noobs don't have the option to adapt, because like you said, they lack the SP. Newberries are the only people who have a problem facing tanks, I don't have a problem with tanks, but I would like an IO mode. Whats the problem?
Then make it a SP minimum to enter? so it attracts a pubstomp arena against ppl who are going to put up a fight which is what most IO guys want anyway to test player skill against other vets.
I would get behind that because it ensure noobies get the rude awakening of what "welcome to the sandbox" means and veteran players get a playground where they can test their skills. It wouldn't restrict tankers.
I think 5 million SP is a good minimum threshold. By that time you will have seen more than your fair share of tanks, whats worse new players will see the strongest possible versions of them, something this base avoided by meager fact that they were gearing up with them. If after the number of games and time it requires 5 Million SP if you cant figure out how to deal with AV or find someone who can help you then there simply is no helping you in this game. |
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Knight SoIaire
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:41:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Knight SoIaire wrote: Why?
Tanks are fun to go up against, there is nothing as fun in this game as wasting an expensive tank.
Fun for you, what do you have against CCP catering to other people sense of fun? What? No, don't add Indian food to the menu, I wont eat it anyway.
You mean what do I have against CCP catering to new players?
Its because they could be focusing on more important problems than this.
In fact its not even a problem. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:42:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote: Then why would we need to separate by weapons?
Because why not? Split the player base? Skirmish and the eventual PVE will already do that. You're that guy telling Naughty Dog to cut multiplier from Uncharted because all you ever do is play story mode. That doesn't split the player base, it gives people more options without limiting what they use to play It doesn't matter, it's still limiting them. Dude, if you want to play against tanks, THEN DON'T GO INTO IO MODE, NO ONE IS ******* LIMITING YOU, THAT HAS GOT TO BE THE STUPIDEST THING I'VE EVER READ. A new mode in no way limits what you can do as long as you have alternatives. Adding a new mode i can't use specific weapons on is still a way of splitting the player base, are you that thick you can't recognize this? |
Winscar Shinobi
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:43:00 -
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Honestly the only reason I see tankers complaining about a IO mode is that they won't be able to get to the noobs they normally roll over. Like it was stated 4 good AV people will trash any tank.
So old ambush would be: Tanks Speced AV people Idiot blue dots that didn't get the memo
Ergo, it becomes a mode where tanks will have to face their equal, or their better in the form of dedicated AV.
In other words "QQ MY TANK CAN'T GET ME 30 KILLS A GAME ANYMORE BECAUSE THE OTHER SIDE HAS TANKS TOO" |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:44:00 -
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Gunner Nightingale wrote:
Then make it a SP minimum to enter? so it attracts a pubstomp arena against ppl who are going to put up a fight which is what most IO guys want anyway to test player skill against other vets.
Considering the only people who think Tanks are OP are noobs? no. it should be available to everyone. What we need is a pro mode for all the "leet" players |
Winscar Shinobi
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:45:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Knight SoIaire wrote: Why?
Tanks are fun to go up against, there is nothing as fun in this game as wasting an expensive tank.
Fun for you, what do you have against CCP catering to other people sense of fun? What? No, don't add Indian food to the menu, I wont eat it anyway. You mean what do I have against CCP catering to new players? Its because they could be focusing on more important problems than this. In fact its not even a problem.
I think new modes with the possibility of IO is better than retaining the old modes making them IO without adding new game types
Capture the flag IO! |
Chris F2112
Killshot Corp
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:46:00 -
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Tanks are a problem when playing against a decent tank driver, especially when you are running in a squad that isn't great at taking out vehicles. If you only have one good AV player, there is practically no chance that they will destroy a well fit tank.
It would be nice to have a mode where we don't have to worry about getting stomped by a tank. That said, in no way should this mode even touch planetary conquest or corp battles. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:48:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote: Adding a new mode i can't use specific weapons on is still a way of splitting the player base, are you that thick you can't recognize this?
Who gives a rats ass, skirmish already does this, OMS already does, PVE will do this, any new game mode will only further split the player base. I guess that means no capture the flag right? it doesn't matter how it splits it, it's still splitting it.
You're acting like if the existence of McDonalds stops you from going to Burger King. that has got to be the worst logic I've ever seen. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:49:00 -
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Chris F2112 wrote:Tanks are a problem when playing against a decent tank driver, especially when you are running in a squad that isn't great at taking out vehicles. If you only have one good AV player, there is practically no chance that they will destroy a well fit tank.
It would be nice to have a mode where we don't have to worry about getting stomped by a tank. That said, in no way should this mode even touch planetary conquest or corp battles. Even 1 good AV player can be enough to restrict a tanks movements and make it difficult to dominate your team |
Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:49:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:You do realize that CCP would likely give us such maps as "an option" just like being able to choose between Ambush, Ambush OMS, and Skirmish, correct?
Let's extend that. Say I don't like to play against snipers? MORE CHOICES!
There should be an option for shot guns and armor infantry only! Shields are OP and I want everything balanced. QCC is fun. Forget the other 27 million skills and weapons in the game.
You're restricting my freedom to no be able to play against shoddys.
Or pistols only.
Or grenades.
comeon.. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:50:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Knight SoIaire wrote: Why?
Tanks are fun to go up against, there is nothing as fun in this game as wasting an expensive tank.
Fun for you, what do you have against CCP catering to other people sense of fun? What? No, don't add Indian food to the menu, I wont eat it anyway. You mean what do I have against CCP catering to new players? Its because they could be focusing on more important problems than this. In fact its not even a problem. Right, because it would so hard to program this? i bet it wouldn't even take 1 hour. |
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Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
147
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:51:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Gunner Nightingale wrote:I ADAPT OR DIE
HTFU
That's nice, but noobs don't have the option to adapt, because like you said, they lack the SP. Newberries are the only people who have a problem facing tanks, I don't have a problem with tanks, but I would like an IO mode. Whats the problem? Invest the tiny amount of sp it requires with the starting sp and boom, you can kill tanks. I use swarm launchers with only 2 levels into it You can say that because you have experience with dust, newberries see the skill sheet and don't know wtf to do. It's those same newberries that go up against 5 tanks and never switch to AV.
Um. Are you suggesting every video game should cater to a crown of people who choose to completely ignore every mechanic and aspect of that game?
Oh no! The average World of Warcraft player is too stupid to figure out how to "not stand in the fire". We'd better remove fire from the game. Also from now on all PVE encounters are click-to-kill. There, now they don't have to learn anything and every new player can have so much FUN when they first join =D |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
578
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:52:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Chris F2112 wrote:Tanks are a problem when playing against a decent tank driver, especially when you are running in a squad that isn't great at taking out vehicles. If you only have one good AV player, there is practically no chance that they will destroy a well fit tank.
It would be nice to have a mode where we don't have to worry about getting stomped by a tank. That said, in no way should this mode even touch planetary conquest or corp battles. Even 1 good AV player can be enough to restrict a tanks movements and make it difficult to dominate your team Still needs good infantry to keep him safe, unless he's just spamming AV grenades. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
578
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:53:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:
Um. Are you suggesting every video game should cater to a crown of people who choose to completely ignore every mechanic and aspect of that game?
Oh no! The average World of Warcraft player is too stupid to figure out how to "not stand in the fire". We'd better remove fire from the game. Also from now on all PVE encounters are click-to-kill. There, now they don't have to learn anything and every new player can have so much FUN when they first join =D
... |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
542
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:53:00 -
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I want a game mode for only Mass Drivers.
Also I want a game mode for only heavies with SMGs.
And... let's see... |
Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
147
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:55:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:I read through all these comments and still can't figure out why people have a problem with a different game mode... you know you still have a choice to select the game mode right? Losing faith in this community daily. Adding a different game mode = bad...did I miss something somewhere???
No, adding new game modes is fine. King of the hill. capture the flag. Powerball etc, who knows.
But if you start taking a knife and slicing this game into pieces where certain builds are 100% banned from a game-mode then it is counter productive.
Add all the new game types you want but please keep in mind that:
New Games modes =/= preventing the use of players skills/builds/weapons/etc from entering that map what-so-ever.
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
607
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:55:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote: Adding a new mode i can't use specific weapons on is still a way of splitting the player base, are you that thick you can't recognize this?
Who gives a rats ass, skirmish already does this, OMS already does, PVE will do this, any new game mode will only further split the player base. I guess that means no capture the flag right? it doesn't matter how it splits it, it's still splitting it. You're acting like if the existence of McDonalds stops you from going to Burger King. that has got to be the worst logic I've ever seen. It's not that it splits the player baee it's how, you keep trying to change the Mexican food part of the buffet into more Chinese food when there's already more Chinese food but alll of it's being eaten st thr same rate. Why don't we add an Ar only mode to top off this vanilla stack |
Knight SoIaire
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:56:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Knight SoIaire wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Knight SoIaire wrote: Why?
Tanks are fun to go up against, there is nothing as fun in this game as wasting an expensive tank.
Fun for you, what do you have against CCP catering to other people sense of fun? What? No, don't add Indian food to the menu, I wont eat it anyway. You mean what do I have against CCP catering to new players? Its because they could be focusing on more important problems than this. In fact its not even a problem. Right, because it would so hard to program this? i bet it wouldn't even take 1 hour.
Lol.
No, they have to look at response of the community.
Take every opinion of the devs into mind and then they decide wheter to integrate it or not.
They cant just look at one post on the forum about tanks, then go and change tanks, without looking at others.
You do know this "No tank Ambush" topic has been happening for atleast a month, maybe even longer.
In that time, CCP (I hope they were anyway) has been monitering the topic and taking the opinion of tankers and infantry into account. |
Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
147
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:56:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:
Um. Are you suggesting every video game should cater to a crown of people who choose to completely ignore every mechanic and aspect of that game?
Oh no! The average World of Warcraft player is too stupid to figure out how to "not stand in the fire". We'd better remove fire from the game. Also from now on all PVE encounters are click-to-kill. There, now they don't have to learn anything and every new player can have so much FUN when they first join =D
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Sorry read that wrong, drunk. Thought you were excusing newberries from not swapping to AV and saying they shouldn't have to learn why they should. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
607
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:57:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:gbghg wrote:Chris F2112 wrote:Tanks are a problem when playing against a decent tank driver, especially when you are running in a squad that isn't great at taking out vehicles. If you only have one good AV player, there is practically no chance that they will destroy a well fit tank.
It would be nice to have a mode where we don't have to worry about getting stomped by a tank. That said, in no way should this mode even touch planetary conquest or corp battles. Even 1 good AV player can be enough to restrict a tanks movements and make it difficult to dominate your team Still needs good infantry to keep him safe, unless he's just spamming AV grenades. Sidearms and the many secondary suggestions being made in the feedback part of the forum |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:57:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Gunner Nightingale wrote:I ADAPT OR DIE
HTFU
That's nice, but noobs don't have the option to adapt, because like you said, they lack the SP. Newberries are the only people who have a problem facing tanks, I don't have a problem with tanks, but I would like an IO mode. Whats the problem? Invest the tiny amount of sp it requires with the starting sp and boom, you can kill tanks. I use swarm launchers with only 2 levels into it You can say that because you have experience with dust, newberries see the skill sheet and don't know wtf to do. It's those same newberries that go up against 5 tanks and never switch to AV. Um. Are you suggesting every video game should cater to a crown of people who choose to completely ignore every mechanic and aspect of that game? Oh no! The average World of Warcraft player is too stupid to figure out how to "not stand in the fire". We'd better remove fire from the game. Also from now on all PVE encounters are click-to-kill. There, now they don't have to learn anything and every new player can have so much FUN when they first join =D
lol compares a PC game to a console game...a FPS too.
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