Indoor maps. No vehicles. Done.

False, tanks don't own everyone, I'd go so far as to call them underpowered, tanks only own newberries.

And? that's their choice to make.

As for why, cause it's fun? Is "fun" not good enough, what are all of you doing playing a video game?

That's your idea of fun, and our current ambush accommodates you perfectly if that's the case. What do you have against a new IO mode?

That's nice, but noobs don't have the option to adapt, because like you said, they lack the SP. Newberries are the only people who have a problem facing tanks, I don't have a problem with tanks, but I would like an IO mode. Whats the problem?

Tanks are a problem when playing against a decent tank driver, especially when you are running in a squad that isn't great at taking out vehicles. If you only have one good AV player, there is practically no chance that they will destroy a well fit tank.

It would be nice to have a mode where we don't have to worry about getting stomped by a tank. That said, in no way should this mode even touch planetary conquest or corp battles.

Hey, I can handle myself pretty well with a Scrambler, but I'm not taking down 5 guys who know where I'm at because I just launched the bat signal into the sky without some support.

I never said I was supposed to, you're the one who said that 1 AV guy could keep a tank pinned by himself. My response was "not if that tank has support and the AV guy doesn't", which we don't most of the time

Go on, play solo ambush without a squad, then comback and tell me how many tanks you took out by yourself while the blues just hung out in their little blob.

It's like fight O&S without summoning Solaire, good luck with that sh*t. I have done it BTW

They also made me hungry, Man I want some Chinese Food now...

You mean AV people who know what they're doing? You're just proving my point that tanks only do well because they always go up against noobs, but guess what? All those people who switched over to AV are now easy to pick off with infantry, that was what you said right? Paper, scissors, rock.

"Dropships are OP, they're killing everyone and I can't take it down with free AV!" ~Said no one ever

Most dropships seem to ust outrun my swarm missiles, making them rather difficult to take down. I can normally get 1 shot in with swarm launcher then the ship just flys away staying just ahead of my missiles until they blow up in mid air. Is there something I don't know or is this a common occurance. Swarm missiles seem to be designed to take down arial vehicles yet they seem to be ultimately best against LAVs.

Also has anyone brought up a topic concerning making the swarm missiles more like EVE allowing for different damage type from missiles? Would make taking down shield based vehicles much more manageable with SL.

=D

You found someone pre AB nerf who didn't figure out how to spend 5k on a militia forge gun I guess.

Besides the obvious fact that that one noob with his single swarm admits to being able to stave off a DS from doing anything useful an entire match by firing off one shot. Imagine being able to do that with a tank.

Pull out one swarm and it hides behind a hill getting zero player kills for the rest of the match. That would point to AV being unbalanced in AV's favor I'd think right ?
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Well I certainly am not going to say that dropships are some huge problem in ambush, they are pretty rare and it's not like it was in early Codex where they could own the battlefield single-handedly. But why would you even want to bring a DS into ambush? The maps are tiny, and it's not as if spawning and dropping from a DS in ambush would make any tactical sense (unless your a sniper and want to get up to an unreachable spot). Really the only thing a DS does in ambush is provide intel and maybe draw the attention of the enemy players a little bit.

However DS's do fall in the same category as tanks because players need a dedicated AV fit to take them out (even if it is BPO militia swarms, it's still dedicated to taking out AV and not infantry). LAV do not require dedicated AV, so players can still have a perfectly capable fit for dealing with infantry, but also at the same time keep the LAV's at bay.

God it's like oozing troll and fail.

Ultimately it's CCP's choice. It's their game and people will play it or not. But if that's the sort of player they're trying to attract and retain then I'm not sure I'd stick around much.

So he was saying that on one of the few maps that has any cover, dropships sometimes run and hide from his free, zero SP weapon and are rendered useless and out of sight the rest of the game. But this upsets him because that weapon won't also instantly explode a million ISK 3 million SP vehicle that survived against all odds with the RDV deployment.

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