So I take it that means we have to scrap all PvE game types right, since it would split people up?

but of they are having fun

Now we know why this idea came about. It's because presently tanks own everyone.

You mean newberries? You're right, I'm sorry tankers won't get to slaughter noobs anymore. Honestly, the only people who don't know how to fight a tank are noobs charging at them with their little ARs.

I take back what I said about the lack of supply depots, newberries are the reason tankers hangout in ambush.

Absolutely because being unable to play a.game mode with certain weapons is SO fun

Let's be honest here. What you're complaining against isn't vehicles. When's the last time a LAV or DS owned you?

Its strickly tanks. And that's likely because there's not enough other vehicles in the game yet to dethrone their god status and level things out.

Most people advocating infantry only don't mean infantry only. They mean No Tanks. Because they're tired of being pubstomped by tanks.

But such a hasty generalization of "no vehicles" rather than "no tanks" is unjustified.

If we give players a safe haven from vehicle's a lot of people will be able to ignore AV skills

I play games to smash people. That's fun for me.

So because of people whining I can't choose what gametype I want to play? Makes perfect sense

Then why do you need them out of ambush so bad?

I can't choose what gametype because I can't use the weapon i want to use, it's not even that my weapon type isn't good on that mode

Games are much more fun when the enemy can escalate and bring a new unit to the battlefield and force you to adapt to the situation at hand.

It's not a Chinese food place, the game was a buffet until people started crying about diversity

I
ADAPT OR DIE

HTFU

Again no, it's currently a buffet since every weapon van be used. Then people whined about diversity

Invest the tiny amount of sp it requires with the starting sp and boom, you can kill tanks. I use swarm launchers with only 2 levels into it

Then why would we need to separate by weapons?

Why?

Tanks are fun to go up against, there is nothing as fun in this game as wasting an expensive tank.

That doesn't split the player base, it gives people more options without limiting what they use to play

Then make it a SP minimum to enter? so it attracts a pubstomp arena against ppl who are going to put up a fight which is what most IO guys want anyway to test player skill against other vets.

Adding a new mode i can't use specific weapons on is still a way of splitting the player base, are you that thick you can't recognize this?

You mean what do I have against CCP catering to new players?

Its because they could be focusing on more important problems than this.

In fact its not even a problem.

Even 1 good AV player can be enough to restrict a tanks movements and make it difficult to dominate your team

Um. Are you suggesting every video game should cater to a crown of people who choose to completely ignore every mechanic and aspect of that game?

Oh no! The average World of Warcraft player is too stupid to figure out how to "not stand in the fire". We'd better remove fire from the game. Also from now on all PVE encounters are click-to-kill. There, now they don't have to learn anything and every new player can have so much FUN when they first join =D

New Games modes =/= preventing the use of players skills/builds/weapons/etc from entering that map what-so-ever.

Sorry read that wrong, drunk. Thought you were excusing newberries from not swapping to AV and saying they shouldn't have to learn why they should.

Sidearms and the many secondary suggestions being made in the feedback part of the forum

Obviously all this will do is create a game mode of AV vs Tanks.

And gun-infantry vs gun-infantry.

See the problem? The rock paper scissors here is
Infantry --> AV --> Tanks --> Infantry

Now you have a game of Rock vs Rock
and Paper vs Scissors.

0 tanks (or any vehicle) would queue. Vehicles are effectively removed from the game. I hope CCP can see this, its a terrible idea.

Good.

You're not supposed to be able to.

Working as intended.

And the food metaphors in this thread have gotten out of control.

It essentially would when you look at the prices.

AV (cheap) as in free-tens of thousands.

Vehicles. Effectively range from 500k-million ISK ds
and 1-3 million ISk tanks.

Tell me, what idiot will call in a vehicle instead of come cheap or free/militia AV when fighting an entire team of people who know their vehicle will be forge-gunned from the sky before a ******** RDV has even the chance to crash it into a wall for them???

Just because you cant take out a tank on your own, doesn't mean I cant.

yeah... And you're proving my point that if you eliminate rock from rock paper scissors which is FINE. Then you end up with paper scissors which is inherently broken .

No one mentioned Italian food even though I was eating spaghetti not long ago

Anyone who wanted to use guns would be using guns in IO
Anyone who wanted to blow up tanks with gear that cost 1000x less than the tanks would join the other ambush.
Anyone who wanted to lose their tank with no feasible chance of financial compensation or victory after calling it in would que non IO


And no other vehicle ever would be used anywhere after.

Without scissors (tanks) there's no need for rock (Av) so we're only left with a loop of paper.

I guess you never have, it was funner when food was added to it

The only way noobs become AV people who know what they're doing is by going up against tanks, willingly or not.

Had a paper ball fight, which is just a catalyst for a food fight to escalate

Well when you have to choose between sowing and repeating your last year of high school which do you choose?

he wants to dropout then but still get the degree

how is it that we have to keep explaining this?

So segregating graduates and drop outs is the only way for things go to work when there are wayys around it already?

False. Somebody might skill for One, the other, both, or neither. depending on how much SP they have and how they wish to use it.

That's called a tactical mistake, when you know you're more than likely facing vehicles

Have fun getting steamrolled by vehicles

So Paper wants a no-Rock game mode?

To capture the objective, you're not meant to only skill for anti infantry weapons