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Posted - 2013.03.23 19:36:00 -
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Segregation of the player base isn't a good enough reason that infantry only is a bad idea? |
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Posted - 2013.03.23 19:41:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Segregation of the player base isn't a good enough reason that infantry only is a bad idea? So I take it that means we have to scrap all PvE game types right, since it would split people up?
Not at all, there's a difference between wanting competitive without certain weapons ane just wanting to shoot Ai |
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Posted - 2013.03.23 19:44:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Not at all, there's a difference between wanting competitive without certain weapons ane just wanting to shoot Ai Indoor maps. No vehicles. Done.
Yes because indoor maps will be too small for vehicles |
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Posted - 2013.03.23 19:54:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:So it's a big problem if people get infantry skills, then AV once they are comfortable with the game? I don't see how or why.
Infantry only players will get called carebears, but of they are having fun, that's sort of all that matters yeah?
Absolutely because being unable to play a.game mode with certain weapons is SO fun |
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:07:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Tony Calif wrote:So it's a big problem if people get infantry skills, then AV once they are comfortable with the game? I don't see how or why.
Infantry only players will get called carebears, but of they are having fun, that's sort of all that matters yeah? Absolutely because being unable to play a.game mode with certain weapons is SO fun Then just....choose a different gametype? No one would be forcing you to play that gametype.
So because of people whining I can't choose what gametype I want to play? Makes perfect sense |
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:09:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Tony Calif wrote:So it's a big problem if people get infantry skills, then AV once they are comfortable with the game? I don't see how or why.
Infantry only players will get called carebears, but of they are having fun, that's sort of all that matters yeah? Absolutely because being unable to play a.game mode with certain weapons is SO fun Ughh...go sue Taco Bell because they don't offer chinese food, clearly they hate the Chinese. Or would an infantry only mode, not necessarily ambush, prevent you from playing with tanks elsewhere?
And that's fair because i use a different weapon? Look out people we have a genius over here |
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:09:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:
Now we know why this idea came about. It's because presently tanks own everyone.
False, tanks don't own everyone, I'd go so far as to call them underpowered, tanks only own newberries. Sloth9230 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:
Because now every butthurt infantry person will be hiding in regular ambush if CCP goes through with this.
You mean newberries? You're right, I'm sorry tankers won't get to slaughter noobs anymore. Honestly, the only people who don't know how to fight a tank are noobs charging at them with their little ARs. I take back what I said about the lack of supply depots, newberries are the reason tankers hangout in ambush.
Then why do you need them out of ambush so bad? |
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:12:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:
So because of people whining I can't choose what gametype I want to play? Makes perfect sense
Who dafuq??? Who says you can't choose... boy, that takes a special kind of stupid.
I can't choose what gametype because I can't use the weapon i want to use, it's not even that my weapon type isn't good on that mode |
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:16:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:
So because of people whining I can't choose what gametype I want to play? Makes perfect sense
Who dafuq??? Who says you can't choose... boy, that takes a special kind of stupid. I can't choose what gametype because I can't use the weapon i want to use, it's not even that my weapon type isn't good on that mode Right, right, you go to Chinese food places and then get mad when they wont give you Mexican food don't you? No on would force you to play an IO mode... dude, just stop, you're not even making sense at this point.
It's not a Chinese food place, the game was a buffet until people started crying about diversity |
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:23:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:
It's not a Chinese food place, the game was a buffet until people started crying about diversity
No, skirmish is a buffet. The game in this case is every restaurant in your neighborhood. So why did you go to the chinese food place if you wanted mexican food?
Again no, it's currently a buffet since every weapon van be used. Then people whined about diversity |
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:27:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Gunner Nightingale wrote:I
ADAPT OR DIE
HTFU
That's nice, but noobs don't have the option to adapt, because like you said, they lack the SP. Newberries are the only people who have a problem facing tanks, I don't have a problem with tanks, but I would like an IO mode. Whats the problem?
Invest the tiny amount of sp it requires with the starting sp and boom, you can kill tanks. I use swarm launchers with only 2 levels into it |
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:27:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:
It's not a Chinese food place, the game was a buffet until people started crying about diversity
No, skirmish is a buffet. The game in this case is every restaurant in your neighborhood. So why did you go to the chinese food place if you wanted mexican food? Again no, it's currently a buffet since every weapon van be used. Then people whined about diversity What about people who want to play an objective based game mode, don't they feel left out of Ambush? No, they don't, because they have Skirmish. Variety comes in more forms than what weapons you can bring into a match.
Then why would we need to separate by weapons? |
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:32:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Gunner Nightingale wrote:I
ADAPT OR DIE
HTFU
That's nice, but noobs don't have the option to adapt, because like you said, they lack the SP. Newberries are the only people who have a problem facing tanks, I don't have a problem with tanks, but I would like an IO mode. Whats the problem? Invest the tiny amount of sp it requires with the starting sp and boom, you can kill tanks. I use swarm launchers with only 2 levels into it You can say that because you have experience with dust, newberries see the skill sheet and don't know wtf to do. It's those same newberries that go up against 5 tanks and never switch to AV.
I did the same the first time i played in june, however I wasn't taking tanks down with the efficiency using standard gear |
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:33:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:
Then why would we need to separate by weapons?
Because why not? Split the player base? Skirmish and the eventual PVE will already do that. You're that guy telling Naughty Dog to cut multiplier from Uncharted because all you ever do is play story mode.
That doesn't split the player base, it gives people more options without limiting what they use to play |
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:42:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:
Then why would we need to separate by weapons?
Because why not? Split the player base? Skirmish and the eventual PVE will already do that. You're that guy telling Naughty Dog to cut multiplier from Uncharted because all you ever do is play story mode. That doesn't split the player base, it gives people more options without limiting what they use to play It doesn't matter, it's still limiting them. Dude, if you want to play against tanks, THEN DON'T GO INTO IO MODE, NO ONE IS ******* LIMITING YOU, THAT HAS GOT TO BE THE STUPIDEST THING I'VE EVER READ. A new mode in no way limits what you can do as long as you have alternatives.
Adding a new mode i can't use specific weapons on is still a way of splitting the player base, are you that thick you can't recognize this? |
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:55:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:
Adding a new mode i can't use specific weapons on is still a way of splitting the player base, are you that thick you can't recognize this?
Who gives a rats ass, skirmish already does this, OMS already does, PVE will do this, any new game mode will only further split the player base. I guess that means no capture the flag right? it doesn't matter how it splits it, it's still splitting it. You're acting like if the existence of McDonalds stops you from going to Burger King. that has got to be the worst logic I've ever seen.
It's not that it splits the player baee it's how, you keep trying to change the Mexican food part of the buffet into more Chinese food when there's already more Chinese food but alll of it's being eaten st thr same rate. Why don't we add an Ar only mode to top off this vanilla stack |
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:57:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:gbghg wrote:Chris F2112 wrote:Tanks are a problem when playing against a decent tank driver, especially when you are running in a squad that isn't great at taking out vehicles. If you only have one good AV player, there is practically no chance that they will destroy a well fit tank.
It would be nice to have a mode where we don't have to worry about getting stomped by a tank. That said, in no way should this mode even touch planetary conquest or corp battles. Even 1 good AV player can be enough to restrict a tanks movements and make it difficult to dominate your team Still needs good infantry to keep him safe, unless he's just spamming AV grenades.
Sidearms and the many secondary suggestions being made in the feedback part of the forum |
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Posted - 2013.03.23 21:09:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:gbghg wrote:Chris F2112 wrote:Tanks are a problem when playing against a decent tank driver, especially when you are running in a squad that isn't great at taking out vehicles. If you only have one good AV player, there is practically no chance that they will destroy a well fit tank.
It would be nice to have a mode where we don't have to worry about getting stomped by a tank. That said, in no way should this mode even touch planetary conquest or corp battles. Even 1 good AV player can be enough to restrict a tanks movements and make it difficult to dominate your team Still needs good infantry to keep him safe, unless he's just spamming AV grenades. Sidearms and the many secondary suggestions being made in the feedback part of the forum Hey, I can handle myself pretty well with a Scrambler, but I'm not taking down 5 guys who know where I'm at because I just launched the bat signal into the sky without some support.
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Posted - 2013.03.23 21:11:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:gbghg wrote:Chris F2112 wrote:Tanks are a problem when playing against a decent tank driver, especially when you are running in a squad that isn't great at taking out vehicles. If you only have one good AV player, there is practically no chance that they will destroy a well fit tank.
It would be nice to have a mode where we don't have to worry about getting stomped by a tank. That said, in no way should this mode even touch planetary conquest or corp battles. Even 1 good AV player can be enough to restrict a tanks movements and make it difficult to dominate your team Still needs good infantry to keep him safe, unless he's just spamming AV grenades. Sidearms and the many secondary suggestions being made in the feedback part of the forum but I'm not taking down 5 guys who know where I'm at because I just launched the bat signal into the sky without some support.
Good.
You're not supposed to be able to.
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Says who? My corpmate ONLY uses scrambler pistols with his logi and he does great. |
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Posted - 2013.03.23 21:17:00 -
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No one mentioned Italian food even though I was eating spaghetti not long ago |
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Posted - 2013.03.23 21:22:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:
yeah... And you're proving my point that if you eliminate rock from rock paper scissors which is FINE. Then you end up with paper scissors which is inherently broken .
Why would anyone switch to paper if no one is using rock? lol "I know they can't use vehicles, but I switched to AV anyway for the lols" 
Without scissors (tanks) there's no need for rock (Av) so we're only left with a loop of paper. |
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Posted - 2013.03.23 21:24:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:No one mentioned Italian food even though I was eating spaghetti not long ago I really got a hankering for chipotle reading this thread. Not sure why,
Because that is what separates us from animals, chipolte makes us human |
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Posted - 2013.03.23 21:37:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:
Anyone who wanted to use guns would be using guns in IO
Anyone who wanted to blow up tanks with gear that cost 1000x less than the tanks would join the other ambush.
Anyone who wanted to lose their tank with no feasible chance of financial compensation or victory after calling it in would que non IO
And no other vehicle ever would be used anywhere after.
Like I said, you need to try a corp battle without decent AV. I guarantee it won't be fun. Vermaak Doe wrote:
Without scissors (tanks) there's no need for rock (Av) so we're only left with a loop of paper.
I take it you've never had a paperball fight? Oh, how I miss my childhood 
I guess you never have, it was funner when food was added to it  |
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Posted - 2013.03.23 21:42:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:I guess you never have, it was funner when food was added to it I never have what? I had food fights, they usually didn't end well for me.
Had a paper ball fight, which is just a catalyst for a food fight to escalate |
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Posted - 2013.03.23 21:48:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:gbghg wrote:
The only way noobs become AV people who know what they're doing is by going up against tanks, willingly or not.
I never learned how to sow, you going to force me to learn how to sow?
Well when you have to choose between sowing and repeating your last year of high school which do you choose? |
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Posted - 2013.03.23 21:55:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:gbghg wrote:
The only way noobs become AV people who know what they're doing is by going up against tanks, willingly or not.
I never learned how to sow, you going to force me to learn how to sow? Well when you have to choose between sowing and repeating your last year of high school which do you choose? Sowing, but not everyone wants to graduate to the big leagues. So if a guy wants to stay in IO for his whole life then let him, he's choosing to miss out on the fun.
So segregating graduates and drop outs is the only way for things go to work when there are wayys around it already? |
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Posted - 2013.03.23 22:24:00 -
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That's called a tactical mistake, when you know you're more than likely facing vehicles |
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Posted - 2013.03.23 22:46:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:That's called a tactical mistake, when you know you're more than likely facing vehicles Right, so you would choose the guy who's more versatile over the guy who isn't? I would.
Have fun getting steamrolled by vehicles |
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Posted - 2013.03.23 23:50:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:That's called a tactical mistake, when you know you're more than likely facing vehicles Right, so you would choose the guy who's more versatile over the guy who isn't? I would. Have fun getting steamrolled by vehicles I'm saying I would choose the guy with AV skills -_-, Preferably more than 1, and someone with tank skills. Why would anyone ever pack a team with nothing but Infantry?
To capture the objective, you're not meant to only skill for anti infantry weapons |
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