DUST Search - Wouldn't you consider this stealing?

Maken Tosch wrote:

KING PDIGGY wrote:

Dr Debo Galaxy wrote:

It seems to me you broke the rules in some way. You got banned, but you don't seem to be telling us why you got banned. Now you are upset that you can not get refunds for this. You are supposed to take it because you were wrong in some way. So if you didn't get banned in this happened it would still not be stealling it would be bad customer service.

If a cop busts someone doing something illegal they then take the money from that illegal action ( wether it was a part of it or not) they do not have to give that back. You did wrong and now you must pay the piper, in aurum form. No one will agree with you on this.

So what did you do to get banned?

I got banned for saying they didn't know how to fix hit detection so they were slowing the game down, I guess that's ban worthy though, How dare I question a developers decision in a video game, right?

I sense you are lying through your teeth and not telling us the whole story. I pointed out many problems with DUST since closed beta to this day and I have not been banned. The same can be said for everyone else including the imperfects. I suspect you are trying to do something that many would see as 'suspect'.

CCP should give you a 15 minute GCC from what I see.

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Calgoth Reborn United Front LLC 170	Posted - 2013.03.23 00:13:00 - [31] - Quote KING PDIGGY wrote: Calgoth Reborn wrote: KING PDIGGY wrote: http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/zz188/pdiggy22/ed770a05-8a01-4274-a4f5-e9b3e11161f2_zps0a5b61ca.jpg thoughts? Filed a complaint with the BBB http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/zz188/pdiggy22/Screenshot2013-03-22at43957PM_zps7ff77fdc.png So let's get the fact's straight your trying to get a refund for your Aurum purchase on an account that was perma banned? If that is the case you have no case as the fault is yours and no one else's based on what? strictly assuming the DEV was in the right? sorry they aren't.... you didn't answer the question are you trying to get a refund on a banned account?
KING PDIGGY Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 35	Posted - 2013.03.23 00:16:00 - [32] - Quote I got banned for saying they didn't know how to fix hit detection so they were slowing the game down, I guess that's ban worthy though, How dare I question a developers decision in a video game, right?[/quote] That is highly doubtful they perma banned for something that minor has to be more to it than that. But as you want to keep up appearance's that it is all CCP's fault and not your own we will only get part of the story.[/quote] I can prove it, go to every youtube video posted before NDA was lifted and ask the user if he can still access DUST from the same account he used to break NDA with and play on it, if he say's yes, then clearly they targeted me, which they did because I didn't agree with their decisions.
KING PDIGGY Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 35	Posted - 2013.03.23 00:17:00 - [33] - Quote Calgoth Reborn wrote: KING PDIGGY wrote: Calgoth Reborn wrote: KING PDIGGY wrote: http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/zz188/pdiggy22/ed770a05-8a01-4274-a4f5-e9b3e11161f2_zps0a5b61ca.jpg thoughts? Filed a complaint with the BBB http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/zz188/pdiggy22/Screenshot2013-03-22at43957PM_zps7ff77fdc.png So let's get the fact's straight your trying to get a refund for your Aurum purchase on an account that was perma banned? If that is the case you have no case as the fault is yours and no one else's based on what? strictly assuming the DEV was in the right? sorry they aren't.... you didn't answer the question are you trying to get a refund on a banned account? I want the money/aurum spent on an unfinished product back in my characters wallet or in my real one.
Laheon Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 182	Posted - 2013.03.23 00:17:00 - [34] - Quote Pdiggy. You paid for aurum. That account then got banned. The aurum is linked directly to the account. In effect, when you started playing this game, you signed a contract with CCP. You agreed to their terms of service. You broke those rules, and at their discretion, they decided to ban you for it. Frankly, it's clear cut. No court would back you on this. You're not going to get a refund from CCP, because you violated the "contract" and you were punished for it. Not stealing. You were simply being stupid.
Sojuro Ryo Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 191	Posted - 2013.03.23 00:17:00 - [35] - Quote KING PDIGGY wrote: Sojuro Ryo wrote: Sounds more like you screwed up and want to blame CCP for it. And the BBB can`t do anything about businesses that are not in the US. Your a moron, ccp is in georgia too That`s a secondary office. The main office is what matters.
Dr Debo Galaxy GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 251	Posted - 2013.03.23 00:18:00 - [36] - Quote KING PDIGGY wrote: Dr Debo Galaxy wrote: It seems to me you broke the rules in some way. You got banned, but you don't seem to be telling us why you got banned. Now you are upset that you can not get refunds for this. You are supposed to take it because you were wrong in some way. So if you didn't get banned in this happened it would still not be stealling it would be bad customer service. If a cop busts someone doing something illegal they then take the money from that illegal action ( wether it was a part of it or not) they do not have to give that back. You did wrong and now you must pay the piper, in aurum form. No one will agree with you on this. So what did you do to get banned? I got banned for saying they didn't know how to fix hit detection so they were slowing the game down, I guess that's ban worthy though, How dare I question a developers decision in a video game, right? So now you are lying. There is no way you got banned for RESPECTFULLY making a suggestions. Otherwise there would be no one on this forums, they would all be banned. You are leaving a huge part out of this. Either you swore or used racial slurs or something. To me this sounds like the person who is in a store yelling and screamming. If you have ever seen these people you would no they just make themselves look bad. Now tell us the truth why you got banned. Last chance.
Laheon Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 183	Posted - 2013.03.23 00:19:00 - [37] - Quote Oh jesus, you broke the NDA and you're complaining about being permabanned? No **** sherlock, what did you expect? Can you imagine being in a clan, leaking out some plans, and then being permabanned from that clan? Would you complain then? Seriously. This is the most facepalm thread I've ever seen.
KING PDIGGY Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 35	Posted - 2013.03.23 00:19:00 - [38] - Quote Laheon wrote: Pdiggy. You paid for aurum. That account then got banned. The aurum is linked directly to the account. In effect, when you started playing this game, you signed a contract with CCP. You agreed to their terms of service. You broke those rules, and at their discretion, they decided to ban you for it. Frankly, it's clear cut. No court would back you on this. You're not going to get a refund from CCP, because you violated the "contract" and you were punished for it. Not stealing. You were simply being stupid. Stupid how? by disagreeing? They lost copy right claims to me on youtube, they were in the wrong and I won, youtube sided with me, no court would back them on that.
Winscar Shinobi Better Hide R Die 97	Posted - 2013.03.23 00:20:00 - [39] - Quote This reminds me of the war z forums. Nowhere near as bad, but still reminiscent.
KING PDIGGY Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 35	Posted - 2013.03.23 00:20:00 - [40] - Quote Laheon wrote: Oh jesus, you broke the NDA and you're complaining about being permabanned? No **** sherlock, what did you expect? Can you imagine being in a clan, leaking out some plans, and then being permabanned from that clan? Would you complain then? Seriously. This is the most facepalm thread I've ever seen. Selectively enforcing NDA on a publicly available beta is laughable at best, also they lost copy right claims to me on youtube.

DJINN leukoplast Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 349	Posted - 2013.03.23 00:20:00 - [41] - Quote KING PDIGGY wrote: Can't access the account as it has been banned for months....... Read comprehension skills are at an all time low for dust forum posters Hmm, so the Aurum was refunded into the account, however you got yourself banned and can't use it. Well, CCP did everything correctly by refunding AUR into that account, and it was your choice to get banned by breaking the rules. Therefore they are not accountable for your inability to access that AUR. /thread
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1721	Posted - 2013.03.23 00:22:00 - [42] - Quote KING PDIGGY wrote: Dr Debo Galaxy wrote: It seems to me you broke the rules in some way. You got banned, but you don't seem to be telling us why you got banned. Now you are upset that you can not get refunds for this. You are supposed to take it because you were wrong in some way. So if you didn't get banned in this happened it would still not be stealling it would be bad customer service. If a cop busts someone doing something illegal they then take the money from that illegal action ( wether it was a part of it or not) they do not have to give that back. You did wrong and now you must pay the piper, in aurum form. No one will agree with you on this. So what did you do to get banned? I got banned for saying they didn't know how to fix hit detection so they were slowing the game down, I guess that's ban worthy though, How dare I question a developers decision in a video game, right? I sense you are lying through your teeth and not telling us the whole story. I pointed out many problems with DUST since closed beta to this day and I have not been banned. The same can be said for everyone else including the imperfects. I suspect you are trying to do something that many would see as 'suspect'. CCP should give you a 15 minute GCC from what I see.
KING PDIGGY Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 35	Posted - 2013.03.23 00:22:00 - [43] - Quote DJINN leukoplast wrote: KING PDIGGY wrote: Can't access the account as it has been banned for months....... Read comprehension skills are at an all time low for dust forum posters Hmm, so the Aurum was refunded into the account, however you got yourself banned and can't use it. Well, CCP did everything correctly by refunding AUR into that account, and it was your choice to get banned by breaking the rules. Therefore they are not accountable for your inability to access that AUR. /thread How do you figure it was refunded? if I can't get on the game to see? dumb
ChargersGirlLuvsDP Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 49	Posted - 2013.03.23 00:23:00 - [44] - Quote This thread is hilarious. CRY MOAR DIGGY!!!! CRY MOAR!!!!
Laheon Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 183	Posted - 2013.03.23 00:24:00 - [45] - Quote Copyright has nothing to do with NDA. Sure, you recorded the video, sure, you posted it online. You broke an agreement with CCP about disclosing any content within the game. Copyright has to do with ownership over something. NDA has to do with disclosing of information. There's no overlap. At that time, the game wasn't "publicly available". You had to either pay to get in, or undergo a puzzle to play. Then you were warned about the NDA. If you disclosed information, you were banned. You were told in the simplest terms possible, yet you still did it. Sorry, but you're an idiot.
Dr Debo Galaxy GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 251	Posted - 2013.03.23 00:26:00 - [46] - Quote KING PDIGGY wrote: DJINN leukoplast wrote: KING PDIGGY wrote: Can't access the account as it has been banned for months....... Read comprehension skills are at an all time low for dust forum posters Hmm, so the Aurum was refunded into the account, however you got yourself banned and can't use it. Well, CCP did everything correctly by refunding AUR into that account, and it was your choice to get banned by breaking the rules. Therefore they are not accountable for your inability to access that AUR. /thread How do you figure it was refunded? if I can't get on the game to see? dumb I have a sneaking suspicion you do not have a real job. If you did you would understand what CCP did was correct. Also I have not seen your letter to Sony to get your refund. ANd if you did break the NDA you broke the rules plain and simple.
DUST Fiend Immobile Infantry 2115	Posted - 2013.03.23 00:27:00 - [47] - Quote Laheon wrote: Pdiggy. You paid for aurum. That account then got banned. The aurum is linked directly to the account. In effect, when you started playing this game, you signed a contract with CCP. You agreed to their terms of service. You broke those rules, and at their discretion, they decided to ban you for it. Frankly, it's clear cut. No court would back you on this. You're not going to get a refund from CCP, because you violated the "contract" and you were punished for it. Not stealing. You were simply being stupid. And all over $10 lol, I can't imagine this guy going through the drive thru
DJINN leukoplast Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 349	Posted - 2013.03.23 00:27:00 - [48] - Quote KING PDIGGY wrote: DJINN leukoplast wrote: KING PDIGGY wrote: Can't access the account as it has been banned for months....... Read comprehension skills are at an all time low for dust forum posters Hmm, so the Aurum was refunded into the account, however you got yourself banned and can't use it. Well, CCP did everything correctly by refunding AUR into that account, and it was your choice to get banned by breaking the rules. Therefore they are not accountable for your inability to access that AUR. /thread How do you figure it was refunded? if I can't get on the game to see? dumb Well let's think about this one for a second, every single person in Dust got their AUR refunded after reset. What, you think your account was the only exception?
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1721	Posted - 2013.03.23 00:30:00 - [49] - Quote King Pdiggy You are trying to derail your own topic as soon as us intelligent players are realizing your lack of intelligence. Copy right has nothing to do with it. You broke the NDA which you agreed to and now you want compensation for your crime?
KING PDIGGY Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 35	Posted - 2013.03.23 00:33:00 - [50] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: KING PDIGGY wrote: Dr Debo Galaxy wrote: It seems to me you broke the rules in some way. You got banned, but you don't seem to be telling us why you got banned. Now you are upset that you can not get refunds for this. You are supposed to take it because you were wrong in some way. So if you didn't get banned in this happened it would still not be stealling it would be bad customer service. If a cop busts someone doing something illegal they then take the money from that illegal action ( wether it was a part of it or not) they do not have to give that back. You did wrong and now you must pay the piper, in aurum form. No one will agree with you on this. So what did you do to get banned? I got banned for saying they didn't know how to fix hit detection so they were slowing the game down, I guess that's ban worthy though, How dare I question a developers decision in a video game, right? I sense you are lying through your teeth and not telling us the whole story. I pointed out many problems with DUST since closed beta to this day and I have not been banned. The same can be said for everyone else including the imperfects. I suspect you are trying to do something that many would see as 'suspect'. CCP should give you a 15 minute GCC from what I see. Why were my videos the only ones with copyright claims then? Why am I the only player permabanned? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3cragF0TWj8

KING PDIGGY Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 35	Posted - 2013.03.23 00:36:00 - [51] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: King Pdiggy You are trying to derail your own topic as soon as us intelligent players are realizing your lack of intelligence. Copy right has nothing to do with it. You broke the NDA which you agreed to and now you want compensation for your crime? I had already been banned prior to post videos from the forums. Your not very smart.
Laheon Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 185	Posted - 2013.03.23 00:37:00 - [52] - Quote KING PDIGGY wrote: Why were my videos the only ones with copyright claims then? Why am I the only player permabanned? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3cragF0TWj8 The copyright claims were probably an attempt, however desperate, to get your videos taken down. That account was permabanned for violating a Non-Disclosure Agreement. And I can imagine it happened to the other people who posted videos before NDA was lifted, you just haven't heard from them because they don't whine like you do. CCP doesn't have a vendetta against you. Grow up.
Calgoth Reborn United Front LLC 171	Posted - 2013.03.23 00:40:00 - [53] - Quote In a nutshell you lost your 10$ worth of aurum when you got banned for violating the NDA and are not due any compensation/transfer/ or refund of the purchase from CCP/PSN as you violated the contract you agreed to every time you logged into the game
KING PDIGGY Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 35	Posted - 2013.03.23 00:41:00 - [54] - Quote Laheon wrote: KING PDIGGY wrote: Why were my videos the only ones with copyright claims then? Why am I the only player permabanned? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3cragF0TWj8 The copyright claims were probably an attempt, however desperate, to get your videos taken down. That account was permabanned for violating a Non-Disclosure Agreement. And I can imagine it happened to the other people who posted videos before NDA was lifted, you just haven't heard from them because they don't whine like you do. CCP doesn't have a vendetta against you. Grow up. Edit: A ban from forums does not equal a ban from DUST. Want to bet on it? i'll ask every single poster on youtube and I bet they say no.
Dr Debo Galaxy GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 252	Posted - 2013.03.23 00:41:00 - [55] - Quote You broke the NonDisclosure Agreement. You signed it and broke it. That is it. You sound like a little kid saying,"but they kid down the street gets to do it". Why do you not understand, you broke the rules, got banned. Do not pass go, do not get your aurum refunned just get perma banned. Then we gave you a chance to be an adult and tell us what happened to get banned and you lied like a child would. Just take the licks and learn from them like a man would. Or stay here and have everyone including CCP and Sony disagree with you. In the words of will ferral " now your just making yourself look stupid"
ZiwZih The Tritan Industries 89	Posted - 2013.03.23 00:41:00 - [56] - Quote KING PDIGGY wrote: (...) then clearly they targeted me, which they did because I didn't agree with their decisions. They are obviously going for you mate. You are the victim of a cyber-Vikings pillage. Hope you do one of those half-witted videos on your case and call it 'Hateboi Moronicus'.
Spec Ops Cipher UnReaL. 34	Posted - 2013.03.23 00:43:00 - [57] - Quote You've probably been on the forums complaining about this for 2 hours. If you'd have gone and got yourself a minimum wage job, you would have already earned back the money you're whinging about.
Aighun Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 678	Posted - 2013.03.23 00:48:00 - [58] - Quote Look at it this way. If you go into a bar, order a bunch of drinks, drink too many drinks, order more drinks, cause trouble and get kicked out before you have a chance to finish your drinks, did the bartender and bouncer steal those drinks? If you go to see a movie, make an ass of yourself, scream at the screen, throw popcorn at other theatre goers, yell out the surprising ending because you have seen the film before, and the theatre staff kick you out about halfway through, did they steal half a movie from you? You tell me.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1721	Posted - 2013.03.23 00:49:00 - [59] - Quote KING PDIGGY wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: King Pdiggy You are trying to derail your own topic as soon as us intelligent players are realizing your lack of intelligence. Copy right has nothing to do with it. You broke the NDA which you agreed to and now you want compensation for your crime? I had already been banned prior to post videos from the forums. Your not very smart. Excuse me, I'm not the one who violated the NDA during closed beta got banned and then start demanding compensation for being caught red handed. The more you talk, the more you come across as someone who deserves nothing. Enjoy your ban.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1721	Posted - 2013.03.23 00:51:00 - [60] - Quote I'm done with this thread. I hope it gets locked.



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