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3 bird
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.03.22 22:24:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Quote:Sponsorship would actually be against our key objective, damage the reputation of D-Uni and cause the standard of education we can provide our students to drop. So at no point will we ever be seeking donations from corps or player outside of D-Uni. I donGÇÖt think that 3 bird worded this quite right, considering that our counterpart EVE University is a charitable organization that runs partly on donations. I think what he meant to say is that D-University will not treat large donors any differently than the rest of the community.
My bad and Fox is correct, I should have said at no point will we be seeking sponsorship from corps.
Donations of a completely voluntarily nature are a different thing altogether. And even then we wont be seeking them, ether they will come to us or they wont.
Sponsorship suggest a return in some way, be it advertising, close diplomatic ties or some way of gaining trained students.
Donations suggests voluntarily giving money to support a cause with no personal return and while remaining anonymous.
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Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
675
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Posted - 2013.03.23 02:22:00 -
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One of you guys should mail us so we can have preemptive talks and discuss this stuff out. |
Fox Gaden
DUST University
Ivy League
233
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:16:00 -
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Bojo, if I mail you I will probably use my EVE account, Renier Gaden (same last name), as I can access my EVE mail from work via the EVE Gate website. He is not in DUST University, so take this post as verification of his identity. |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
697
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Posted - 2013.03.26 04:45:00 -
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Do you guys plan in partaking in this: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=65522&find=unread
I'm going to see if the Sandman can push the event towards a point after new build. Spice things up. |
Phyxitt Blaze
DUST University
Ivy League
5
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Posted - 2013.03.27 20:59:00 -
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My thought, whether it counts or not. That a "Council of United Planetary Nations" will have to be formed and involved for this to be successfully initiated.
Just a thought cause then it seems like the newberrys are the ones that are going to be the Mercs that do the battle for dominating a planet... Or did I lose the idea of whats upcoming??? |
Kevall Longstride
DUST University
Ivy League
144
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Posted - 2013.04.01 11:44:00 -
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Thank you all very much for the input you have given us in this thread and via other means outside of them. We have been debating internally and have reached a decision that we hope we be supported by the community and perhaps be a model for other training corps who wish to take part in PC.
We will be doing PC but with self imposed restrictions that will hopefully make it clear to the rest of the community as to our intentions.
We will be limiting our operations to just one planet. When the other 7000 temperate planets come online, we will find one with no strategic value and out of the way. Perhaps over time, an entire system can be controlled by the all training corps which would be an enormous benefit to the whole community.
We will not be entering Null-sec PC when it launches. This could seriously harm our neutrality stance and frankly be more trouble than its worth in terms of diplomatic cost, so we will be staying in fraction controlled Low sec. Should PC in the future expand to High sec space we'll look into expanding into that but again only after consulting the rest of the community.
We will not attack another district unless it is a prearranged action with another corp for training purposes. We will be entirely free to defend ourselves however should we be attacked.
The Uprising starts on May 6. There are only a limited number of districts to begin with and I will do my best to secure us one for us to defend until we lose it (I'd hope we won't let it go easily). However, should we fail to get one on day one, we will not attack another one to get one unless its arranged with the corp owning it. This is to show our intent to the Dust community that we only mean to be in PC for it's training value.
The Mercenary contracts. DUST University's official position on faction warfare is that we choose to not support any of the factions as a corporation. However our mercs will privately be free to pick up contracts for whichever faction they personally support. This will inevitably mean that D-UNI mercs may fight against each other on the battlefield but this all good training experience and we have no problem with that.
Thank you all once again for your feedback on this matter. It has shaped and informed much of what we have decided to do and we hope that it will benefit all the community in the long term.
Kevall Longstride, Merc clone of Dennie Fleetfoot, CEO of DUST University.
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CookieStein
G I A N T
101
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Posted - 2013.04.01 14:17:00 -
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I fully respect and support what you guys do and hope you find your little corner of New Eden PC. Should things not shake down the way you hope on May 6th, barring political issues I volunteer our services to acquire a district on Dust-Uni's behalf. I would consider it supporting the community to help you find a home should circumstances require it and would hope other corps would feel the same.
Keep up the good fight. |
Kevall Longstride
DUST University
Ivy League
146
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Posted - 2013.04.01 16:35:00 -
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Thank you for that offer Cookie.
Hopefully, We'll have the district on our first attempt. |
Ansiiis The Trustworthy
DUST University
Ivy League
1
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Posted - 2013.04.01 18:37:00 -
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What people like to imagine is that D-UNI is made only from players new to the game. Truth is that it's not. While we would be steamrolled by any corp with 10M SP in each player that doesn't mean we won't be able to hold our ground against any wannabe terrorists. |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
765
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Posted - 2013.04.01 18:43:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:
The Uprising starts on May 6. There are only a limited number of districts to begin with and I will do my best to secure us one for us to defend until we lose it (I'd hope we won't let it go easily). However, should we fail to get one on day one, we will not attack another one to get one unless its arranged with the corp owning it. This is to show our intent to the Dust community that we only mean to be in PC for it's training value.
My question is, how do you plan to deal with the inevitability of losing a district, or even maybe not gaining one at all?
Your neutrality stance is rigid, and you say you will not attack, merely defend. How will Dust Uni cope with a loss of a district? If you fail to defend, and you will not attack, in what manner other than charity would DUNI gain territory after initial scramble?
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Kevall Longstride
DUST University
Ivy League
147
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Posted - 2013.04.02 00:12:00 -
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In the first instance of losing one, we'd ask if any corps with more than one, if we could attack them for training purposes. If we can't find one prepared to do that, then we might over to compensate them for it.
When the game launches with all the planets and districts it'll be easier to find one without the gold rush.
We're prepared to wait however and the intervening time we could perhaps offer our services to smaller corps needing help in defending their districts so our mercs can still get the experience of FF being on. |
Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
208
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Posted - 2013.04.02 00:17:00 -
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>.> I'd doubt any corp will really let you attack them since it'll soften them up.
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CookieStein
G I A N T
111
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Posted - 2013.04.02 19:03:00 -
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Is it 'taking sides' to simply try and retake a district should you lose it?
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Synthetic-Method
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
10
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Posted - 2013.05.20 20:45:00 -
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REZ
Synthetic-Method wrote:I am concerned about allowing the community to influence this decision too much. Please reflect on the reasons the Uni no longer holds sovereignty in New Eden and allow the wisdom of past experiences be the major deciding factor. Though I commend you for including the community in this discussion. The fact is there is a reason the Uni does not hold sovereignty and I truly believe those same reason will apply to owning districts as well.
Just wanted to say I told you so. 
So now that you have first hand experience of what I'm talking about which is it gonna be? Open recruitment and training or PC? |
Sumdore Jin-Mei
DUST University
Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2013.05.30 10:23:00 -
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Just a Thought. Why don't you start a intern system to train your students.
1. You keep neutral and keep one district.
2. Every month you send interns to different corporations to fight for them in PC
3. The selection of the corporations will be made by D UNI not the interns.
4. The internship will be of 1 to 3 months maybe(Take yr guess)
5. The corporation will pay D Uni in ISk if the intern is good and stay with that corporation after the alotted time.(JOB PROSPECT for INTERNS) 
6. After the internship in PC he/she can again join D UNI
7. Offcourse goodwill contracts with other corp (Both big and small) to use interns at PC.
Could be a complex system involving a lot but worth a shot none the less |
Shion Typhon
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.05.30 10:41:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:You see our dilemma.
Since the PC Dev blog it's been the elephant in room. How does a corp coming from a tradition of neutrality work in a game where there is nothing Neutral.
I'm sure there is a solution we just have find it. But I strongly feel that we should be transparent with the community with such an important matter.
The problem is that PC potentially is a large source of ISK for Dust Corps and we aren't going to be able to have a piece of the pie at the moment.
Perhaps you could openly randomise your selection of a district to attack, hold it until it was taken then move on and not try and retake it?
You can't be neutral but you could be "fair". No one area or corp has to engage with you more than any other or more often than "rarely"?
Probably already said in different ways throughout the thread. |
Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
346
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Posted - 2013.05.30 10:43:00 -
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Could just buy two from an Alliance after the war is decided..... |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
516
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Posted - 2013.05.30 11:16:00 -
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Its been awhile since I checked the starmap, Did DUni take something? |
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