Personally I quite like the idea of some form of educational coalition working on a single planet. It gives us all the opportunity to train our respective students in P.C, will also induce closer ties between the schools which will lead to exchange of information (teaching related) and will improve the service we all provide for the community.

DU would be better off waiting for their to be more districts before attempting to get in on the ground level of something so hotly contested as this by so many people.

Include Districts/Planets in this and this will allow any D-Uni member to participate in P-Conquest with the consent of Director and involved entity.

P.S. For all you people who are saying, "This isn't EvE/ This isn't persistent/ This is Dust it's different" You're in for a rude awakening. Without the ability to do API checks your recruitment process is open to attack. Infact a corp theft has already happened in Dust. So just a word of wisdom here... be ready for the meta because it's comming.

You make a very good point. at the very least it might be a good idea to see how fast the 250 districts available are claimed.

You guys openly admit to taking in newbies and teaching them how to play, that's going to be too easy a target with so few planets/districts up for grab.

You know we'd gank if for a start, i'm sure other corps here would too. Chances are you'd end up on the defensive 100% from day one.

You guys openly admit to taking in newbies and teaching them how to play, that's going to be too easy a target with so few planets/districts up for grab.

You know we'd gank if for a start, i'm sure other corps here would too. Chances are you'd end up on the defensive 100% from day one.

Thats one way to train newberrys.

Unless you can get the ENTIRE community behind you - every Corporation with the numbers to play in PC - you're not going to be able to establish a training district, let alone more than that, and definitely not a whole planet.

If you can get 3 Corps together who are willing to do so, they could probably find and capture a remote planet that's out of the way and only really accessible to a new Corporation rather than an established PC Corp. Get a cooperative effort to set up a simple 3-corp battlefield and let DUST-Uni players fill out most of the battles back and forth. So each team has 3 squad leaders from the owning Corp in a battle, and the rest of the numbers on BOTH teams are made up by students - with maybe a couple of trainers in the match as well to give them pointers.

This would rely on the goodwill of the Corporations involved in the conflict, rather than on D-Uni being obligated on any level to "help" the owners - the stablity and profit from a region being held like this would probably be its own reward in comparison with any other place where 3 powerful Corps got a foothold on a planet and started tearing each other's throats out.

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The other big idea is the mercenary option. This one seems more practical and viable, because it doesn't rely on outside agencies or negate the neutrality of the Corp.

Anyone in D-Uni who's interested in getting experience with PC could approach a specific designated "job broker" for the corp. All a student would be allowed to give is their availability days and times. From there, they'll be placed into a rotation of students who will be hired out on a case-by-case basis to various corporations - preferably as a relatively low-end option in terms of price, since they're (obviously) not going to be high-level players.

When their services are purchased, the student would be getting paid based on their performance in the battle anyway (mercs in PC are awarded "loot" for the battle), so the payment to D-Uni - or at least part of it - would be considered a donation rather than a payment to the individual merc who ends up with the team.

I'm pretty sure a system could be built around that basic framework that allows for D-Uni mercenaries to operate on a truly neutral level. They wouldn't be affiliated with a particular corp for any kind of term, just for a single battle, and they'd likely end up on the opposite side of the line in their next encounter with that corp. This would also help prospective "graduates" to meet and greet and look for a new Corp to move into.

If Bojo feels like adding to the discussion he is more than welcome to, he might have an idea that works that we at D-Uni have missed and even if not would be interesting to get his take on things.

Having said that Bojo might not have the rigid view on neutrality that we at D-Uni have, If not it would certainly give him some extra breathing room in terms of P.C that are unavailable to us.

ether way would be cool to hear his take on things.

Personally I quite like the idea of some form of educational coalition working on a single planet. It gives us all the opportunity to train our respective students in P.C, will also induce closer ties between the schools which will lead to exchange of information (teaching related) and will improve the service we all provide for the community.

Lots of ideas flying around the board room at the moment so thanks for all your comments so far guys, it's a massive help and please keep them coming.

Dust Uni isn't in actuality my enemy, I just like to play it as so, so everyone forget I said that.

I know that neutrality does not exist. I have picked a side, but that doesn't mean I'm set in stone on who's who, and what's what. In other words, I'm open to all and have no political enemies but keep in mind we are a knuckle of a fist.

But yes, you may contact us to help you as long as it is mutual.

Basically I plan to help my Alliance in PC grabs and in the hopes that we can earn a sovereignty over something minor. The potential sovereignty and training has is too good to pass up.

Wouldn't it be better as "a knuckle of the fist"? you know for dramatic and metaphorical effect

[... In other words, I'm open to all and have no political enemies but keep in mind we are a knuckle of the fist.

Fixed! Why aren't you LOTIS PR? Lololol

The problem is that PC potentially is a large source of ISK for Dust Corps and we aren't going to be able to have a piece of the pie at the moment.

There is little doubt that DUST University needs to take place in planetary conquest in order to provide that experience to our student body.

DUST University also needs a revenue stream other than corp member donations in order to meet some of our training goals.

An agreement not to attack your territory amounts to sponsorship from larger corporations. If the requirement to own a planet cannot be justified, why not seek direct sponsorship from the same entities that you want to allow you to coexist with them in PC?

Hello zeek1227 zeek1227 here CEO of Blitkrieg Co. (No you don't know us we have like 25 people)
Anyway I guess I haven't really been following you guys (I have heard of you but assumed you were a feeder Corp or something) and after reading this post was curious as to what you do exactly?
Is it training for your own Corp or for anyone? What's is the curriculum? How is it profitable?

You guys openly admit to taking in newbies and teaching them how to play, that's going to be too easy a target with so few planets/districts up for grab.

You know we'd gank if for a start, i'm sure other corps here would too. Chances are you'd end up on the defensive 100% from day one.

I'm a bit put off by this being framed as "we want our piece of the pie."

I also agree that participating in the mad scramble for territory on release of PC is not a workable strategy for the university.

I'd be interested in what the larger corps think about taking one or two uni students along in their corp battles.


My main thought, though, is how exactly you would teach the finer points of planetary conquest without attempting to expand/defend your territory. The smaller scale details of a planetary conquest battle sounds very much a skirmish, while the elements of PC which are specific to only that area of gameplay... are on a scale which cannot be practically explored without actively engaging other conquerors in combat.

I have some doubts. Can you please elaborate on why you require these districts?

An agreement not to attack your territory amounts to sponsorship from larger corporations. If the requirement to own a planet cannot be justified, why not seek direct sponsorship from the same entities that you want to allow you to coexist with them in PC?

Hello zeek1227 zeek1227 here CEO of Blitkrieg Co. (No you don't know us we have like 25 people)
Anyway I guess I haven't really been following you guys (I have heard of you but assumed you were a feeder Corp or something) and after reading this post was curious as to what you do exactly?
Is it training for your own Corp or for anyone? What's is the curriculum? How is it profitable?

An option: make courses with entrance fee used to purchase a genolution pack on splinter corp. The trainees can manage it and learn, when it dies course is over.

Certain mercenary outfits can be used to liberate a district for you - if you are interested, we can work out deals later on I'm sure (though I won't be making calls like this personally).

I'll be in touch with the Dust Uni leadership to discuss. The service that Eve University and, hopefully, Dust University provide to the community warrants some thoughtful discussion.