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Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.03.19 13:28:00 -
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Topic: [DUST University] Opinions on new Planetary Conquest Curriculum
Good day mercenary corporations of New Eden.
As the dawn of planetary conquest nears, DUST University is hard at work looking at the best methods to include planetary conquest in its future curriculum. We are excited about the new content but we do have concerns around the responsibility we have to the community. EVE University has always strived to be a neutral corporation focused on training the new pilots of New Eden. Though DUST University also strives to remain neutral, we wonder if thatGÇÖs possible within the context of planetary conquest.
There is little doubt that DUST University needs to take place in planetary conquest in order to provide that experience to our student body. DUST University also needs a revenue stream other than corp member donations in order to meet some of our training goals. Some of that financial burden may be met by planetary conquest. So we definitely have the incentive to take part in planetary conquest. The question is how do we take part, if itGÇÖs feasible.
Our current thoughts are:
- Take one to three districts on a single planet and take our conquest no further.
- Continue to defend those districts until such time as DUST University decides to relocate under non-aggressive means.
- Retake any districts forcibly taken from DUST University, with prejudice.
We seek out the opinion of the community in order to:
- Keep our agenda regarding planetary conquest transparent
- Ensure the community that we are remaining true to the Universities goals and ideals
- Seek feedback from the community regarding how best for DUST University to take part in Planetary Conquest while remaining true to those goals and ideals.
Thank you for your time,
Alcare Xavier Golden Director of Communications |
Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.03.19 13:49:00 -
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It's what we'd like to do at least.
We just thought we'd poll the community for their thoughts. |
Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.03.19 15:00:00 -
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You see our dilemma.
Since the PC Dev blog it's been the elephant in room. How does a corp coming from a tradition of neutrality work in a game where there is nothing Neutral.
I'm sure there is a solution we just have find it. But I strongly feel that we should be transparent with the community with such an important matter.
The problem is that PC potentially is a large source of ISK for Dust Corps and we aren't going to be able to have a piece of the pie at the moment. |
Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.03.19 16:02:00 -
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As its been suggested a couple of times. What is the general feeling then of the community of a Merc remaining neutral by fighting for anyone?
Would such a freelance corp still be seen as neutral and a corp that business could be done with as long as they were open about it? |
Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.03.19 16:26:00 -
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We're loving the debate and the ideas that are being flung at us guys.
Our internal board room discussions are flying fast at the moment.
Obviously any decision isn't going to be made until at least the next build but keep em coming guys.
When it boils down to it our mission is to do what best serves the community as its usually the best way to serve ourselves. |
Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.03.19 16:40:00 -
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I like the ideas of a University planet but from some reason I keep thinking it should be called Tleilax... |
Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.03.19 17:21:00 -
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3 bird wrote:Kev, your geek is showing again buddy We are Mercs not Mentats :P
You want geek... Tleilax is where the twisted Mentats are trained. |
Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.03.19 19:19:00 -
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Synthetic-Method wrote:This is a question for Kevall and 3 bird.
Other than an income source, which is only a temporary problem due to lacking game mechanics, what does engaging in PConquering provide educationally?
Are the core game mechanics going to be radically different (referring to the grunt experience)?
If not cant things like comms etiquette, working as a team, and how to fill a specific role be taught outside of PConquest?
In short what educational benefit is Dust Uni going to gain from controlling planets that cant be gained using squads in FW and pub matches at a newberies level of play?
3 bird has pretty much addressed this. (I was driving home from work) The friendly fire is going to be the major thing we want to get across to our students.
We've been delighted with the kind of feedback we've been getting and its given us a lot of food for thought. Please keep it up.
We'll be doing a lot talking in the background and hammer out the way we want to go. We've got to talk to the rest of Ivy League see what their thoughts are then we've got to talk to the rest of the corp and get feedback from them as well.
So this obviously isn't anything we're planning to do lightly nor something that we want to keep secret. Rest assured we'll let the community know what we plan to do when we've chosen which way to jump. |
Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.04.01 11:44:00 -
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Thank you all very much for the input you have given us in this thread and via other means outside of them. We have been debating internally and have reached a decision that we hope we be supported by the community and perhaps be a model for other training corps who wish to take part in PC.
We will be doing PC but with self imposed restrictions that will hopefully make it clear to the rest of the community as to our intentions.
We will be limiting our operations to just one planet. When the other 7000 temperate planets come online, we will find one with no strategic value and out of the way. Perhaps over time, an entire system can be controlled by the all training corps which would be an enormous benefit to the whole community.
We will not be entering Null-sec PC when it launches. This could seriously harm our neutrality stance and frankly be more trouble than its worth in terms of diplomatic cost, so we will be staying in fraction controlled Low sec. Should PC in the future expand to High sec space we'll look into expanding into that but again only after consulting the rest of the community.
We will not attack another district unless it is a prearranged action with another corp for training purposes. We will be entirely free to defend ourselves however should we be attacked.
The Uprising starts on May 6. There are only a limited number of districts to begin with and I will do my best to secure us one for us to defend until we lose it (I'd hope we won't let it go easily). However, should we fail to get one on day one, we will not attack another one to get one unless its arranged with the corp owning it. This is to show our intent to the Dust community that we only mean to be in PC for it's training value.
The Mercenary contracts. DUST University's official position on faction warfare is that we choose to not support any of the factions as a corporation. However our mercs will privately be free to pick up contracts for whichever faction they personally support. This will inevitably mean that D-UNI mercs may fight against each other on the battlefield but this all good training experience and we have no problem with that.
Thank you all once again for your feedback on this matter. It has shaped and informed much of what we have decided to do and we hope that it will benefit all the community in the long term.
Kevall Longstride, Merc clone of Dennie Fleetfoot, CEO of DUST University.
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Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
146
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Posted - 2013.04.01 16:35:00 -
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Thank you for that offer Cookie.
Hopefully, We'll have the district on our first attempt. |
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Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.04.02 00:12:00 -
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In the first instance of losing one, we'd ask if any corps with more than one, if we could attack them for training purposes. If we can't find one prepared to do that, then we might over to compensate them for it.
When the game launches with all the planets and districts it'll be easier to find one without the gold rush.
We're prepared to wait however and the intervening time we could perhaps offer our services to smaller corps needing help in defending their districts so our mercs can still get the experience of FF being on. |
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