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Fox Gaden DUST University Ivy League 233	Posted - 2013.03.22 18:21:00 - [1] - Quote I am Fox Gaden, Director of Education at DUST University. (The position involves more paperwork than trigger work.) The following are my personal thoughts, concerns and opinions as I read through this thread. These comments do not represent the official position of DUST University. They are my personal thoughts and my position on these topics is subject to change as the conversation continues. It was a long thread, so it has triggered a lot of thoughts. ********** In EVE, Agony Unleashed is another training Corp. They remain fairly neutral, yet that has not stopped them from blowing up my ships on several occasions. It is my understanding that they remain neutral by shooting at everyone equally. In EVE the fleet mechanics for Sov are mostly the same as any other fleet battle. In DUST P.C. has friendly fire. (Other corps might want our graduates to have practice not shooting friendlies.) As 3 bird mentioned it appears that the tactical situation in PC will be different than in other types of battles, and the tactical differences is something we would want to drill into our students. Regarding Faction Warfare: DUST University would only be involved in Faction Warfare as long as the mechanic allows a Corporation to take part without choosing a Faction. If choosing sides is a requirement as it is in EVE, then the only way DUST University would get involved would be if we created four subsidiary Corporations (one for each faction) to train members in Faction Warfar. If DUST University does not hold any districts, then it will cost us 20million ISK every time we arrange a practice match with another Corporation. I envision training agreements with the larger Corporations to have fights in a mutually agreed on district. They can keep sending their new players to fight us in the specified district. If they need it back they just send in their A team to take it, or if they already have it at that point they just tell D-Uni that the arrangement is over. If another Corp tries to take advantage of the situation and attacks the district D-Uni is temporarily occupying the original owners can provide up to 13 members of their A team along with the 3 D-Uni squad leaders to insure the District is not lost to outside interests. If a large Corp wants to hire D-Uni to hold training battles with them, the Clone production in the district they allow D-Uni to take for the purpose of holding training battles would be part of the payment for our services. The opportunity to provide PC experience to our students would be another part of the payment. If DUST University only holds 1 district, it is two easy for another Corp to just wipe us off the map. I think if we hold a campos it should be at least 3 districts. Beyond our campos, any districts we hold will be temporary, for training, and normally based on agreements with other Corporations. If DUST University has to attack another corp for the purpose of forming their Campus, then I would be in favour of reimbursing that Corp 20 million ISK so that they may attempt to relocate elsewhere. Once the campos is formed, attacking to take back a campos district that was taken from us would not require compensation. I like the idea of D-Uni providing troops on a contract basis to small Corps to fill their ranks. It would give our members experience. However, it is not the best for instruction, since the squad leaders would be from the client Corp rather than D-Uni instructors. Also, D-Uni contract troops would not be the elite mercenaries, they would be the affordable mercenaries. You get what you pay for. Only participating in PC through joining the squads of other Corps would not be an idea training scenario. It would be vastly harder to organize. It would be difficult to setup specific training scenarios. It would be less Neutral than having our own districts, since it would require a close relationship with another corp to setup these specific training scenarios. It is fine for experience, but would not work for ongoing training. If D-Uni provides solders to other Corps on a contract basis, we would treat every Corp the same. If D-Uni troops ended up on both sides in a battle we would try just as hard (or even harder) to kill each other. This has already occurred in Public Matches. Getting perspectives from both sides of a fight can be a great learning experience. I think D-Uni would definitely be open to working with other training Corps such as BojoGÇÖs school of the Trades to arrange instructional scenarios. One Training Corp may even have an expert from another training Corp join their squad as a guest lecturer to give a course. If D-UniGÇÖs core districts are threatened, I donGÇÖt see a problem with accepting the services of another Corp (or paying another Corp) to assist in defending our campos. We would probably try to switch it up. It looks like there are several good Corps that support us, so we would probably try not to accept assistance from the same Corp too many times in a row to avoid the appearance of favouritism. Geography will have an effect. We will fight for, and fight against, the Corps that are closer to us more often then we will interact with the Corps on the other side of the Region. Maybe in New Eden the term GÇ£NeutralGÇ¥ would better refer to a Corp that will do business with anyone, and is transparent in their transactions. GÇ£TrustGÇ¥ in New Eden is a rare commodity, but it will be an important commodity for DUST University. If a large Corp is considering letting another Corp take one of their districts so they can have some training battles, they will likely ask themselves: GÇ£Is this just a trick to get a beachhead on our planet for an invasion?GÇ¥ I think that being Neutral means operating in such a way that Corps Trust us not to doublecross them. It will mean not taking part in Coalitions (unless it is a Coalition of training Alliances) or taking sides in the politics of New Eden. To be continued...
Fox Gaden DUST University Ivy League 233	Posted - 2013.03.22 18:22:00 - [2] - Quote Continued I like Vaerana MyshtanaGÇÖs idea of having more than one training Corp on the same planet so that training battles can be waged on a regular basis. The designated training districts would probably end up being the most fought over districts in New Eden. As Sentient Archon alluded to, the service DUST University hopes to provide is to get new players from Newb to Competent. I expect in the future many high ranked Corps will respond to applications from new players with: GÇ£Go join DUST University. Apply to us again when have your basic certifications.GÇ¥ D-Uni is not going to be graduating elite players for the most part. We aim to train players to be competent so they can join high rated Corps and hot have to be babysat. This is a service that I expect many high ranked Corps will appreciate. They can concentrate on conquest and let us train the newbs. (I should note though that we are still working on our training programs and it will be a while get before we are fully up and running with our training programs.) I donGÇÖt think we will likely charge Corps for recruiting our graduates, but we will certainly welcome donations from them. I suppose we could charge for targeted recruiting though. Say Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz came to D-Uni and said they needed a Turret Gunner and Two Dropship pilots, D-Uni could charge for the service of finding D-Uni members with the those skills who were interested in joining PFBH. Maybe a small charge for including a recruitment ad in the next Corp mail, and a post of the ad on the D-Uni forum, and then a larger charge if an appropriate and willing candidate is found. As Director of Education, I am completely open to the idea of Guest teachers from other Corps. If D-Uni attempts to take and hold a district or three, and we quickly get wiped off the map, our members will still learn from the experience. Failure is often a better learning experience than easy success. We would still be meeting our objectives. It would just be more costly for us. Those who think that a Corp that trains new players would be an easy mark should consider that D-Uni requires experienced players to do that training. Which group do you think we would send to battle if our home district (campos) was attacked? We still will not be able to compete with the high ranked Corps, but unless they like babysitting Newbs, they will likely let us be. We provide a service they need. Those who say that D-Uni canGÇÖt handle the bloodbath that will accompany the opening days of PC should consider that D-Uni regularly has Corp Battles with top rated Corps. We always show up, we regularly get our ass kicked, but those Corps will attest to the fact D-Uni brings it and are willing to fight against the odds. The prospect of losing is not something we fear. It would just be an inconvenience. Picture this: An upstart Corp attacks D-UniGÇÖs home district thinking it will be an easy mark. They enter the battle and find members from 7 or the top 10 rated teams on D-UniGÇÖs side in the battle. That is my vision of Neutrality. Corps who might be actively at war with each other fighting on the same team to defend the University. If DUST University takes part in PC they would control two types of Districts: The GÇ£CampusGÇ¥ would be our home districts that we would defend by any means necessary, and Training districts that we would hold on a temporary bases for holding battles. These we would defend with our own members for the purpose of training. Large Corps may allow us to carve a Training district out of their empire for the purpose of holding training battles for their less experienced members. We would not expect to maintain control of training districts for long.
Fox Gaden DUST University Ivy League 233	Posted - 2013.03.22 19:09:00 - [3] - Quote Quote: Sponsorship would actually be against our key objective, damage the reputation of D-Uni and cause the standard of education we can provide our students to drop. So at no point will we ever be seeking donations from corps or player outside of D-Uni. I donGÇÖt think that 3 bird worded this quite right, considering that our counterpart EVE University is a charitable organization that runs partly on donations. I think what he meant to say is that D-University will not treat large donors any differently than the rest of the community.
Fox Gaden DUST University Ivy League 233	Posted - 2013.03.23 20:16:00 - [4] - Quote Bojo, if I mail you I will probably use my EVE account, Renier Gaden (same last name), as I can access my EVE mail from work via the EVE Gate website. He is not in DUST University, so take this post as verification of his identity.

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