^Higher shields, module slots and CPU/PG > everything you said above. Is speed really that significant at the cost of lower number of modulr slots and HP???

Mercs that say "the scout is only marginally better in these Individual aspects" Need to consider this.

The whole is greater than the sum of its parts.

All of these small advantages the scout has in speed, movement, jumping, stamina and shield regeneration add up to create a highly mobile killing machine.

So while your walking towards enemies shooting and taking hits to the face and thanking your amazing shield and armour capacity ill be sprinting round on the flank to clean up.

I'm saying scout needs buff in it's own niche.(since it has no significant specialty to make it a worthwhile asset)

That means scouts are great for "lone wolf" infiltration tactics? Sometimes I like getting through the back and kill a group of snipers, sneaking up a heavy or just killing without being noticed while the group's attention is at my whole team.

I think this is an important question. Does firing your weapon makes you appear on your enemy's radar???? Been wanting to try out those Nova Knives for the lulz.

As a dedicated Scout player since may, i've seen the influx of scout players and then the mass exodus away from scouts when CODEX hit, its bound to happen when they slashed the strafe speed and fix the hit detection. Even the Dev said they tweaked the strafe speed way down past what they thought was acceptable to gather information, Remember when they did this back in precursor, they Halved every AV weapon damage including AV Grenades and they put every vehicle on a 50% sale.

I will agree with the above points that the assault type-2 suit or b-series does beat the scout for the over all health they can get out of it, and with more slots and cpu/pg the assault suit is far superior in this build.

You may ask why i spec'd down that tree, or why i still play scout when i know i could easly gain 1.0 to 2.0 on my KDR by just switching to Assault. The answer is i know scouts will be getting buffed like the Logi (10% to hack speed) but for something else, i know there's going to be lots more focus on electronic warfare so being able to evade scanners and detect players in my vicinity will not only help me but help the team.

Not only that i love the challenge of playing the suit

In my opinion the Scout suit is underestimated. Its a great suit in nearly all aspects. The lack of Armour and Shields is easily countered by the ability they have to dodge and the speed to run away from a sticky situation Their shields regen super quick as well.

The scout is the fastest Usain Bolt a run for his money. out flank enemy positions to give their team valuable intel and to also

get high K/d Games and often win as well.

Assault Strafe speed? MUCH lower than Scout.
Assault scan profile? Only slightly lower, but that's why I asked for profile AND PRECISION.
Assault shield regen? Also significantly lower than the Scout.

Straight-line speed? Scout is ahead - not by a huge amount, but still ahead.

And that's before I bring up the stamina advantage. Scouts have more stamina and faster regen than other suits, allowing for much more CONSISTENT mobility - which is important in buildings and areas with a good amount of cover... IF you're good at playing to those strengths.

That is a wonderful example of a selective and close minded view point on this, thank you.You fail to acknowledge any of the assault suit's advantages and how they may or may not cancel out the scout's advantages.

First off, profile and precision are only at a 5 point(10%) difference from the assault suit, yes you can still call that an advantage but you shouldn't get carried away just because you want to aimlessly defend the scout suit.

Strafe speed may be significantly higher then the assault type-I variations but not a big difference over the assault type-IIs, yes you do feel a difference when you play the suit, and I have to admit the scout does feel nicer, but from your enemy's view point (where it matters) there is hardly a difference at all when tracking it.

Now for the regen. True it is significantly higher and it does actually pay off in some situations but in my experience playing in both suits, the hp advantage the assault suit has pays off in more situations then the scouts lower hp but higher recovery. You can keep the scout suit in spots where it has the advantage but ultimately the play style required to exploit the fast regen can easily anchor you down in a match.

The most significant advantage I have found the scout suit to have is it's larger pool of stamina which allows you to sprint to objectives and move around the map faster on foot, but free LAVs

The assault suit has more slots and more cpu which allows it to be a far better asset then the scout can ever hope to be atm. If you'd like you can even put those slots to use and turn it into a scout suit with the right mods and still be more effective. The way scout suits are right now makes them more of a liability then an advantage and even if you do well in them it most likely just means your not playing to your full potential do to the suit's limitations, it makes me sad

btw this is the part where you say "sorry, I was wrong"

That is a wonderful example of a selective and close minded view point on this, thank you.You fail to acknowledge any of the assault suit's advantages and how they may or may not cancel out the scout's advantages.

First off, profile and precision are only at a 5 point(10%) difference from the assault suit, yes you can still call that an advantage but you shouldn't get carried away just because you want to aimlessly defend the scout suit.

Strafe speed may be significantly higher then the assault type-I variations but not a big difference over the assault type-IIs, yes you do feel a difference when you play the suit, and I have to admit the scout does feel nicer, but from your enemy's view point (where it matters) there is hardly a difference at all when tracking it.

Now for the regen. True it is significantly higher and it does actually pay off in some situations but in my experience playing in both suits, the hp advantage the assault suit has pays off in more situations then the scouts lower hp but higher recovery. You can keep the scout suit in spots where it has the advantage but ultimately the play style required to exploit the fast regen can easily anchor you down in a match.

The most significant advantage I have found the scout suit to have is it's larger pool of stamina which allows you to sprint to objectives and move around the map faster on foot, but free LAVs

The assault suit has more slots and more cpu which allows it to be a far better asset then the scout can ever hope to be atm. If you'd like you can even put those slots to use and turn it into a scout suit with the right mods and still be more effective. The way scout suits are right now makes them more of a liability then an advantage and even if you do well in them it most likely just means your not playing to your full potential do to the suit's limitations, it makes me sad

btw this is the part where you say "sorry, I was wrong"

I love Scout cause I feel it challenged me (and I like the sprint speed and look) I play Scout very aggressive and foolishly. Instead of camping and hiding I rush and go into 1v1s playing to the Scouts weakness. 2 CShieldExtenders only give me 232 shields and 98 armor. That is EASILY melted by anything. I find myself losing some gunfights by some players that aren't even good (DMG Mods are a noobs favorite toy) I feel Scout need a significant speed advantage cause Sprint only is no speed advantage unless it is CLEARLY faster and not just barely faster. As far as the a Scout can sprint for ages and leave Assault behind most Assault can keep up with me some what ya I out run them but it's not by much. I wait for the day where CCP wakes up and realizes that Scout suits are pointless at the time. I wish everyday that I went Logi or Assault but will continue to stay Scout in hopes our day will come.

Now let me start off I have used all the suits in the game for at least a week so i know how most of them work pretty much inside and out.

In order from my favourite to least favourite are the

Favourite Scout

Then logi

Then Assault

Then Heavy

This thread is about how much In my opinion the Scout suit is underestimated. Its a great suit in nearly all aspects. The lack of Armour and Shields is easily countered by the ability they have to dodge and the speed to run away from a sticky situation Their shields regen super quick as well.

The scout is the fastest ground unit on Dust 514. With a base sprint speed of 7.8 m/s before modifiers, these guys can give Usain Bolt a run for his money. The primary function of scouts in Dust 514 is to get to objectives quickly during skirmish matches and make the hack. Other purposes of the scouts are to out flank enemy positions to give their team valuable intel and to also drop uplinks at strategic locations. Quoted from the http://warravens.enjin.com/scout website

Great suit try it out if you haven't there not only for shotguns or snipers or smgs i use an assault rifle and get high K/d Games and often win as well.

+1

I only fear they leave our pretty Gallente Scouts as are and tweak new suits to proper stats.

Everyone seems to miss a BIG part of the scout suit that makes it deadly is its size. It has the smallest hitbox out of all the Suits making it extremely hard to hit while moving.

has anybody who is saying the scout suit is just a crap assault suit actually put xp into the scanning and stealth skills. coz if you have not then your right, your scout suit is just a crap assault suit

Assault suits can do that too

Not to the extent that the Scout suit can though

That is a wonderful example of a selective and close minded view point on this, thank you.You fail to acknowledge any of the assault suit's advantages and how they may or may not cancel out the scout's advantages.

First off, profile and precision are only at a 5 point(10%) difference from the assault suit, yes you can still call that an advantage but you shouldn't get carried away just because you want to aimlessly defend the scout suit.

Strafe speed may be significantly higher then the assault type-I variations but not a big difference over the assault type-IIs, yes you do feel a difference when you play the suit, and I have to admit the scout does feel nicer, but from your enemy's view point (where it matters) there is hardly a difference at all when tracking it.

Now for the regen. True it is significantly higher and it does actually pay off in some situations but in my experience playing in both suits, the hp advantage the assault suit has pays off in more situations then the scouts lower hp but higher recovery. You can keep the scout suit in spots where it has the advantage but ultimately the play style required to exploit the fast regen can easily anchor you down in a match.

The most significant advantage I have found the scout suit to have is it's larger pool of stamina which allows you to sprint to objectives and move around the map faster on foot, but free LAVs

The assault suit has more slots and more cpu which allows it to be a far better asset then the scout can ever hope to be atm. If you'd like you can even put those slots to use and turn it into a scout suit with the right mods and still be more effective. The way scout suits are right now makes them more of a liability then an advantage and even if you do well in them it most likely just means your not playing to your full potential do to the suit's limitations, it makes me sad

btw this is the part where you say "sorry, I was wrong"