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N1ck Comeau REGULATORS OF VALOR Orion Empire 50	Posted - 2013.03.08 21:35:00 - [1] - Quote Now let me start off I have used all the suits in the game for at least a week so i know how most of them work pretty much inside and out. In order from my favourite to least favourite are the Favourite Scout Then logi Then Assault Then Heavy This thread is about how much In my opinion the Scout suit is underestimated. Its a great suit in nearly all aspects. The lack of Armour and Shields is easily countered by the ability they have to dodge and the speed to run away from a sticky situation Their shields regen super quick as well. The scout is the fastest ground unit on Dust 514. With a base sprint speed of 7.8 m/s before modifiers, these guys can give Usain Bolt a run for his money. The primary function of scouts in Dust 514 is to get to objectives quickly during skirmish matches and make the hack. Other purposes of the scouts are to out flank enemy positions to give their team valuable intel and to also drop uplinks at strategic locations. Quoted from the http://warravens.enjin.com/scout website Great suit try it out if you haven't there not only for shotguns or snipers or smgs i use an assault rifle and get high K/d Games and often win as well.
XeroTheBigBoss Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 35	Posted - 2013.03.08 21:37:00 - [2] - Quote Scout suit is very underestimated but also very hard to use IMO. If somebody uses dmg mods I gotta bail if a heavy has HMG and face to face I gotta run It's a whole diff style of gun fighting. Although I still play like a Assault suit only scout lol
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 3042	Posted - 2013.03.08 21:38:00 - [3] - Quote I love the scout suit's sneaky ability
N1ck Comeau REGULATORS OF VALOR Orion Empire 50	Posted - 2013.03.08 21:40:00 - [4] - Quote If your gonna play aggressive as a scout like super aggressive then you will die a lot try to take your time but also be aggressive at the same time don't stand around waiting for the perfect kill but don't run into a group of heavies either
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2072	Posted - 2013.03.08 21:45:00 - [5] - Quote So... what significant advantage does the scout have over the assault type-II ?
XeroTheBigBoss Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 36	Posted - 2013.03.08 21:46:00 - [6] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: If your gonna play aggressive as a scout like super aggressive then you will die a lot try to take your time but also be aggressive at the same time don't stand around waiting for the perfect kill but don't run into a group of heavies either Ya I play like Wolverine. I just go beserker sometimes it's great sometimes it's foolish.
N1ck Comeau REGULATORS OF VALOR Orion Empire 50	Posted - 2013.03.08 21:48:00 - [7] - Quote Sleepy Zan wrote: So... what significant advantage does the scout have over the assault type-II ? Well for one there is a great speed and stealth advantage and i'm pretty sure the scout suits are 4000 to 5000 isk cheaper
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2072	Posted - 2013.03.08 21:53:00 - [8] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: Sleepy Zan wrote: So... what significant advantage does the scout have over the assault type-II ? Well for one there is a great speed and stealth advantage and i'm pretty sure the scout suits are 4000 to 5000 isk cheaper Great speed? not nearly enough over the assault type-11 variations to out way the hp advantage, don't forget it's faster then the type-I assault. Stealth is only better by 5 points, with the greater cpu and more slots you can actually close that gap without a problem if you feel like it. And 4000 t0 5000isk.... lol Assault type-II > scout type-I + type-II
N1ck Comeau REGULATORS OF VALOR Orion Empire 50	Posted - 2013.03.08 21:55:00 - [9] - Quote Sleepy Zan wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: Sleepy Zan wrote: So... what significant advantage does the scout have over the assault type-II ? Well for one there is a great speed and stealth advantage and i'm pretty sure the scout suits are 4000 to 5000 isk cheaper Great speed? not nearly enoughover the assault type-11 variations to out way the hp advantage. Stealth is only better by 5 points, with the greater cpu and more slots you can actually close that gap without a problem if you feel like it. And 4000 t0 5000isk.... lol Assault type-II > scout type-I + type-II Hey i'm not saying you have to like the suit i'm just saying i do and i can do well with it isn't that all that matters?
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2072	Posted - 2013.03.08 21:56:00 - [10] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: Sleepy Zan wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: Sleepy Zan wrote: So... what significant advantage does the scout have over the assault type-II ? Well for one there is a great speed and stealth advantage and i'm pretty sure the scout suits are 4000 to 5000 isk cheaper Great speed? not nearly enoughover the assault type-11 variations to out way the hp advantage. Stealth is only better by 5 points, with the greater cpu and more slots you can actually close that gap without a problem if you feel like it. And 4000 t0 5000isk.... lol Assault type-II > scout type-I + type-II Hey i'm not saying you have to like the suit i'm just saying i do and i can do well with it isn't that all that matters? I'm saying scout needs buff in it's own niche.(since it has no significant specialty to make it a worthwhile asset)

N1ck Comeau REGULATORS OF VALOR Orion Empire 50	Posted - 2013.03.08 21:56:00 - [11] - Quote Sleepy Zan wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: Sleepy Zan wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: Sleepy Zan wrote: So... what significant advantage does the scout have over the assault type-II ? Well for one there is a great speed and stealth advantage and i'm pretty sure the scout suits are 4000 to 5000 isk cheaper Great speed? not nearly enoughover the assault type-11 variations to out way the hp advantage. Stealth is only better by 5 points, with the greater cpu and more slots you can actually close that gap without a problem if you feel like it. And 4000 t0 5000isk.... lol Assault type-II > scout type-I + type-II Hey i'm not saying you have to like the suit i'm just saying i do and i can do well with it isn't that all that matters? I'm saying scout needs buff in it's own niche. I agree on that as well. But it's not as bad as everyone makes it seem.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1093	Posted - 2013.03.08 22:41:00 - [12] - Quote Actually, the speed of them is only their secondary advantage. Their scanning stats are highly misunderestimated.
Sontie VENGEANCE FOR HIRE 143	Posted - 2013.03.08 22:42:00 - [13] - Quote I think the scout suit needs a scanning buff and maybe a .1-.2 speed buff. Also, all suits need to not run backwards so damn fast! I think at standard level, that assault easily outclasses the scout in most every area. Assault is better with a shotgun. Assault has more ehp for frontline AR fighting. Assault has enough CPU/PG to equip decent mods. At the Advanced level, they start to even out. I think at the proto-level though... when you have enough slots to equip decent ehp stuff and have the speed and equipment slots to become very versatile... yea, scout might actually be better. Definitely better than the VK.0
Zig Zag Zan Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2013.03.08 23:17:00 - [14] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Actually, the speed of them is only their secondary advantage. Their scanning stats are highly misunderestimated. scan precision is only different by 5 points, other then that, yeah their radar reaches further but with how open the maps are it really doesn't serve much of a purpose.
N1ck Comeau REGULATORS OF VALOR Orion Empire 50	Posted - 2013.03.08 23:44:00 - [15] - Quote We can all agree that the scout suit is a extremely hard to use suit but if used properly the benefits out way the disadvantages
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2073	Posted - 2013.03.08 23:46:00 - [16] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: We can all agree that the scout suit is a extremely hard to use suit but if used properly the benefits out way the disadvantages I thought we just went over this...
Wicked Glory Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 102	Posted - 2013.03.08 23:50:00 - [17] - Quote It's not underestimated; it's useless.
N1ck Comeau REGULATORS OF VALOR Orion Empire 50	Posted - 2013.03.08 23:50:00 - [18] - Quote Sleepy Zan wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: We can all agree that the scout suit is a extremely hard to use suit but if used properly the benefits out way the disadvantages I thought we just went over this... well obviously some people don't understand.
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 530	Posted - 2013.03.08 23:57:00 - [19] - Quote Scout Suit Broke Yo!
ImperfectFan514 IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 67	Posted - 2013.03.09 00:00:00 - [20] - Quote Wicked Glory wrote: It's not underestimated; it's useless. QFT

Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2077	Posted - 2013.03.09 00:02:00 - [21] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: Sleepy Zan wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: We can all agree that the scout suit is a extremely hard to use suit but if used properly the benefits out way the disadvantages I thought we just went over this... well obviously some people don't understand. I have already proved benefits do not out weigh disadvantages by comparing them to another suit that can do everything a scout suit can do but better.
iceyburnz Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 308	Posted - 2013.03.09 01:45:00 - [22] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Actually, the speed of them is only their secondary advantage. Their scanning stats are highly misunderestimated. Shhhhhh Why do people always have to give this stuff away
WyrmHero1945 IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 33	Posted - 2013.03.09 07:54:00 - [23] - Quote There's no reason to have a scout suit when you can have assault for CQC and logi for sniping. The suit needs a buff, I proposed either more high module slots for glass cannon/shield tank or a shields-heavy suit. This suit has to be more useful than the assault for my laser rifle. I feel it should be more stronger at far ranges and more like glass cannon type of suit. Fragile but powerful.
Rurouni Kenshin Pilipino Corp WHY so Seri0Us 0	Posted - 2013.03.09 08:07:00 - [24] - Quote Play like my namesake and you'll have fun. Unleash the Hiten Mitsurugi Ryu ;) nothing like unleashing hell behind 8 unsuspecting strawberries ;) Speed stealth and recon!
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1909	Posted - 2013.03.09 08:08:00 - [25] - Quote Sleepy Zan wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: Sleepy Zan wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: We can all agree that the scout suit is a extremely hard to use suit but if used properly the benefits out way the disadvantages I thought we just went over this... well obviously some people don't understand. I have already proved benefits do not out weigh disadvantages by comparing them to another suit that can do everything a scout suit can do but better. Which suit has better scanning stats (both profile AND PRECISION)? Which suit has a higher strafe speed? Which suit has better shield regen? Which suit has ALL those things as well as straight-line speed and HP to outmatch the Scout? Pro-tip: The correct answer is "Sorry, I was wrong"
Volgair Tritan-Industries 226	Posted - 2013.03.09 08:28:00 - [26] - Quote It moves only slightly faster then the assault with 1/3 the survival time under consistent fire. The signature is only slightly smaller then that of an assault. The point that really hammers it home, If you are a good scout, you can be a great assault for all the same reasons.
WyrmHero1945 IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 33	Posted - 2013.03.09 08:54:00 - [27] - Quote Volgair wrote: It moves only slightly faster then the assault with 1/3 the survival time under consistent fire. The signature is only slightly smaller then that of an assault. The point that really hammers it home, If you are a good scout, you can be a great assault for all the same reasons. Right??? I mean why choose scout over assault??? There's clearly no reason atm.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1909	Posted - 2013.03.09 08:58:00 - [28] - Quote Volgair wrote: It moves only slightly faster then the assault with 1/3 the survival time under consistent fire. The signature is only slightly smaller then that of an assault. The point that really hammers it home, If you are a good scout, you can be a great assault for all the same reasons. Lets try this again... Garrett Blacknova wrote: Which suit has better scanning stats (both profile AND PRECISION)? Which suit has a higher strafe speed? Which suit has better shield regen? Which suit has ALL those things as well as straight-line speed and HP to outmatch the Scout? Assault Strafe speed? MUCH lower than Scout. Assault scan profile? Only slightly lower, but that's why I asked for profile AND PRECISION. Assault shield regen? Also significantly lower than the Scout. Straight-line speed? Scout is ahead - not by a huge amount, but still ahead. And that's before I bring up the stamina advantage. Scouts have more stamina and faster regen than other suits, allowing for much more CONSISTENT mobility - which is important in buildings and areas with a good amount of cover... IF you're good at playing to those strengths.
WyrmHero1945 IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 33	Posted - 2013.03.09 09:06:00 - [29] - Quote ^Higher shields, module slots and CPU/PG > everything you said above. Is speed really that significant at the cost of lower number of modulr slots and HP???
Smoky Fingers THE DOLLARS 4	Posted - 2013.03.09 09:29:00 - [30] - Quote Checked the base stats & numberwise Scout suits are militia grade assault suits with slightly better movement and built in Basic stamina module Enhanced sensor module 4x Complex shield recharger module/ no stacking penalty Enhanced shield regulator module I think the real issue is that as mentioned above "Higher shields, module slots and CPU/PG assault suit" would force a typical scout suiter into a more conservative mentality and play style, whereas they should actually be doing the opposite. Time and tournament tested, gunfights typically favor the more aggressive user.



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