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Don Know
Me My Alts And I
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Posted - 2013.02.18 02:13:00 -
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I have been playing fps games for a long time (007/Perfect dark/even older) and I am decent at other online fps games (COD/MAG/SE/ect...yeah I mentioned COD but hear me out) ;however, Dust seems different.
I have been here since closed beta and have improved but how do you guys get those crazy scores? It feels weird, like I cant get a grip with aiming at a enemy without firing to the left or right somewhat (Mostly AR but testing other things). I would like to hear you're thoughts. Constructive criticism appreciated.
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XXfootnoteXX
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
76
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Posted - 2013.02.18 02:16:00 -
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Don Know wrote:I have been playing fps games for a long time (007/Perfect dark/even older) and I am decent at other online fps games (COD/MAG/SE/ect...yeah I mentioned COD but hear me out) ;however, Dust seems different.
I have been here since closed beta and have improved but how do you guys get those crazy scores? It feels weird, like I cant get a grip with aiming at a enemy without firing to the left or right somewhat (Mostly AR but testing other things). I would like to hear you're thoughts. Constructive criticism appreciated.
My guess is they are very specialized and have damn good hand eye coordination. Some people have it, some people don't. I am good at the game, but I wont be putting up those 40+ kill games. |
Gustavus Adolfus Magnus
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2013.02.18 02:17:00 -
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With my average 1.35 kdr, I can honestly say that I just got used to it. I've been playing since the closed beta (when I thought that everything was a buy one, use it forever thing) and it's been nothing more than time that got me into the game in an acceptable manner.
I used to play Battlefront 2. That's about as far as my FPS experience goes. |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
460
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Posted - 2013.02.18 02:17:00 -
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Don Know wrote:I have been playing fps games for a long time (007/Perfect dark/even older) and I am decent at other online fps games (COD/MAG/SE/ect...yeah I mentioned COD but hear me out) ;however, Dust seems different.
I have been here since closed beta and have improved but how do you guys get those crazy scores? It feels weird, like I cant get a grip with aiming at a enemy without firing to the left or right somewhat (Mostly AR but testing other things). I would like to hear you're thoughts. Constructive criticism appreciated.
complex damage mods. |
Sigberct Amni
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
16
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Posted - 2013.02.18 02:19:00 -
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I'm not all that great but I find that AR requires a bit more finesse than it appears. Spamming it gets you nowhere unless you're danger close. Also, appropriate skills for ARs like Light rapid reload, sharpshooting and so on actually make a significant difference. Even just level one of skills for the AR will see you putting more rounds and damage on the enemy at longer ranges.
Finally, teamwork, teamwork, teamwork. Going solo is doable but communicating with a decent team can help you dominate even the best lone wolves. Good luck, merc! o7 |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
902
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Posted - 2013.02.18 02:19:00 -
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knowing how to read the battlefield and move accordingly |
Tiel Syysch
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
633
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Posted - 2013.02.18 02:19:00 -
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Don Know wrote:It feels weird, like I cant get a grip with aiming at a enemy without firing to the left or right somewhat
Do you have aim assist on? |
Doc Kok
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
74
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Posted - 2013.02.18 02:23:00 -
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Don Know wrote:I have been playing fps games for a long time (007/Perfect dark/even older) and I am decent at other online fps games (COD/MAG/SE/ect...yeah I mentioned COD but hear me out) ;however, Dust seems different.
I have been here since closed beta and have improved but how do you guys get those crazy scores? It feels weird, like I cant get a grip with aiming at a enemy without firing to the left or right somewhat (Mostly AR but testing other things). I would like to hear you're thoughts. Constructive criticism appreciated.
007 Golden eye, one of the best games ever! Perfect dark is one of my favorites as well.. anyways, dust514 is more than just a fps, it's also an rpg and that's where I think it gets some people. Just because you're normally good at first person shooters that skill might not transfer over to dust.
Being good or doing well at this game requires fps skill but also knowing how and where to allocate your skill points and that's where your rpg knowledge comes in. If your skills points are spread out you're at a disadvantage against people with similar skill points as you. I have no idea if skill allocation is your problem or not but if it is I would try to focus specializing.
Keep working at it, you'll get better. |
Arrant Leet
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
28
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Posted - 2013.02.18 02:24:00 -
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It's not about aim as much as it is to know how to run n' gun efficiently. You don't have to take EVERY fight. If someone gets the first shots on you, RUN. Only take good fights. Know your surroundings, know your enemy. If you see a shotgun, back up. Also, the headshot multiplier is RIDICULOUS in this game, so if you focus on that you'll win more fights. Grenades are decent in this game as well. It's just all about keeping your mind moving at ridiculous speeds and constantly weighing your options and alternatives. Another tip, scan perimeters. Never just blindly run in through the middle, be tactical. I hope some of this helps. I'm by no means a pro Dust player because I've only been playing for a couple weeks. But I've been at least a 2.0 KDR in any game and I always run n' gun. It's a conceptual role, NOT a technical role. Sniping is technical, but run n' gun is all smarts. |
Don Von Hulio
UnReaL.
90
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Posted - 2013.02.18 02:28:00 -
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Most ive ever done was 37-4 playing Assault. I find it easier to reach higher scores when im soloing, rather than squadding with someone from corp. Yes, i bait blueberries lol
Alot of it is where you are in relation to the enemy after you kill one of their mates, and how many of them there are.... so pretty much luck if you are a frontline infantryman. You can camp objectives and CRU's which can give some free kills an so on.
Plus, even now the game seems to be playing against you. With the shoddy hitboxes/detection and intermittent frame drops. Which is only 3 annoying bugs out of many.
If you run with a squad you probably wont hit those numbers since the kills will be distributed through the squad, because at least two of you will be shooting at one guy. But you most likely wont die as much, and if you do there is a higher chance of a rez.
Or you could just skill into tanks. |
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Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
438
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Posted - 2013.02.18 02:29:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:knowing how to read the battlefield and move accordingly
This,
Takes more strategy then anything, a lot of other games, your example, COD
Takes like 1 bullet to kill people, in dust,
You have to be fully aware of your surroundings, where the enemy is spawning, high points, cover points, high battle activity areas ect.
It takes slot more then just aiming a gun, hell my brother Heimdallr69 has a 10.0 kdr with the AR with 0 damage mods, constantly going 30-40/0
I have almost a 5.0, cuz my ar skills suck until I got into my LR.
My alt has over 5.0 looking at 6.0 soon.
Honestly early into the game your kdr won't be very very high ect because you had some bad games or are stuck using an unfamiliar gun for awhile.
Just remember strategy and don't rush the battlefield.
Oh and highest for me with LR has been 52-1 thus far. |
Tiel Syysch
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
633
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Posted - 2013.02.18 02:34:00 -
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Don't ignore the radar. Hell, I probably watch it more than the rest of the screen. |
Ras Vicious
Doomheim
0
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Posted - 2013.02.18 02:34:00 -
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Tanks |
Sontie
VENGEANCE FOR HIRE
95
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Posted - 2013.02.18 02:39:00 -
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It's not so much gun game skill as strategy and positioning. I try to engage only when I have a good chance to win, to retreat when I don't. I am also developing my skill for knowing the movement patterns of the enemy, to predict where they will be so I can intercept and kill them.
Most importantly though is having a good squad. I noticed when I'm running with good players, we all put up good numbers, but if my squad is not so good, it even impacts my own numbers.
So pick your fights and make friends.
Another tip, spend time focusing on improving your gun game. Spend hours focused on hitting their head, not on winning the fight. Train. |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
404
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Posted - 2013.02.18 02:47:00 -
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Don Know wrote:I have been playing fps games for a long time (007/Perfect dark/even older) and I am decent at other online fps games (COD/MAG/SE/ect...yeah I mentioned COD but hear me out) ;however, Dust seems different.
I have been here since closed beta and have improved but how do you guys get those crazy scores? It feels weird, like I cant get a grip with aiming at a enemy without firing to the left or right somewhat (Mostly AR but testing other things). I would like to hear you're thoughts. Constructive criticism appreciated.
If you played MAG and did well you'll do well here. Player skill aside, it's all about specializing, knowing how to skill up your character, knowing how to fit your dropsuit. Easy for vets at this point because they've been through it 4 or 5 times.
Also, just in case you haven't heard it yet - adjust all the sensitivities to zero, not just the ones for the controller but also for move & mouse. It's goofy I know, but it helps. And you're right about the twitchy controls - they still suck. |
DigiOps
DUST University Ivy League
85
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Posted - 2013.02.18 02:48:00 -
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Sontie wrote:It's not so much gun game skill as strategy and positioning. I try to engage only when I have a good chance to win, to retreat when I don't. I am also developing my skill for knowing the movement patterns of the enemy, to predict where they will be so I can intercept and kill them.
Most importantly though is having a good squad. I noticed when I'm running with good players, we all put up good numbers, but if my squad is not so good, it even impacts my own numbers.
So pick your fights and make friends.
Another tip, spend time focusing on improving your gun game. Spend hours focused on hitting their head, not on winning the fight. Train. This. And use that time to use those starter fits and grind isk. Grab some militia gear, piece it together, and try some different options out. You may find something you enjoy more than the AR. Granted, I'm an avid AR user, but I'm comfortable with a sniper rifle and don't mind handling a LR from time to time. Tried tank driving. Failed miserably.
Test different stuff out, squad up with people, and pick specialties you are most effective with and have the most fun with. Oh, and search around the forum for those "core skills" everyone talks about. ;) |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
404
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Posted - 2013.02.18 02:50:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:Don Know wrote:I have been playing fps games for a long time (007/Perfect dark/even older) and I am decent at other online fps games (COD/MAG/SE/ect...yeah I mentioned COD but hear me out) ;however, Dust seems different.
I have been here since closed beta and have improved but how do you guys get those crazy scores? It feels weird, like I cant get a grip with aiming at a enemy without firing to the left or right somewhat (Mostly AR but testing other things). I would like to hear you're thoughts. Constructive criticism appreciated.
If you played MAG and did well you'll do well here. Player skill aside, it's all about specializing, knowing how to skill up your character, knowing how to fit your dropsuit. Easy for vets at this point because they've been through it 4 or 5 times. Also, just in case you haven't heard it yet - adjust all the sensitivities to zero, not just the ones for the controller but also for move & mouse. It's goofy I know, but it helps. And you're right about the twitchy controls - they still suck.
Edit - I have to say this again. Customizable controller response curves, CCP - you know it's the right thing to do. And the coolest. |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
288
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Posted - 2013.02.18 03:01:00 -
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The aiming in this game still sucks, it's not as bad as KZ2 was when it first came out, but there is similarities. Some players pick up on it very quickly and have no problem aiming in the least (these are the players that dominate in the game), while others take quite a bit of time to adjust to it... but even then it still feels wrong for a lot of us after months of practice.
The biggest tell if a game has less than ideal aiming, is if players are using the strafe to get an accurate bead on their target. I find I am strafe aiming all the time, I aim in on somebody as best I can with the right stick, then move the left stick until it gets on them and go from there. Because by strafe aiming, I can get very fine adjustments without having to baby the right stick in a way not natural for FPS games on consoles.
I run with a 0-0 sensitivity, yet it still feels far too fast for small adjustments. Unless I strafe aim, I overshoot my targets and short-shoot them quite often. Every now and then I will get into the 'zone' and be able to aim spot-on no problems at all, but this doesn't happen as frequently as I like. Even if there was a lower sensitivity, my turning speed already is very slow, most heavies can turn faster than I do, which is a HUGE disadvantage if I am being shot from behind.
However I do find if I 'relax' a little on the sticks and be less impulsive with my aiming, and take a split second longer to finesse the stick, I can do fairly well in terms of aim control. Sometimes I forget that flicking the sticks in a game with aiming such as Dust, is very counter-productive. As a FPS gamer all my life, twitch aiming has been all I have known. If I don't panic in a intense situation where me and another are going at it, I can pull off a win almost effortlessly... but if I panic and start flicking the sticks all over the place, I get dominated.
I'll give you a little tip to help your aim, turn off the controller vibration. Vibration is fun and all, but it does more harm than good when it comes to precise aiming while shooting or being shot.
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Don Know
Me My Alts And I
9
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Posted - 2013.02.18 03:21:00 -
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@Doc Koc: I do play a lot more than fps (A lot of RPG's in the day and now) but I mean in this case trying to build a foundation. I like the idea of skill points on being given a choice on were to put them when you want. Also, thanks man.
@Sigberct Amni: Team work is probably the key. I use logi quite a bit as well but I spawn alone, thus trying to get to the guys. Got to love armor plates. Thanks.
@Tiel Syysch: There is aim assist? Have to check that out. (Serious) Also, radar defiantly. After COD (Horrible reference ) I look back at the radar every now and then.
@Arrant Leet: I do some of that; however, will keep in mind of that more.
@Don Von Hulio: Interesting, I usually run solo but also go for logistics to heal. I guess I am trying to find a middle ground.
@Y0UR NAME HERE: Thanks. I do tend to rush somewhat now knowing enemies spawning around but will change that.
@Sontie: Yeah, I feel the same way sometimes. Being in a decent team. (Focusing on killing the enemy tanks; instead, of letting them roam free).
@Vrain Matari: Sure, I'll try that. I would love to have custom controls .
@DigiOps: Haha. I've been grinding ISK for a while waiting to use it when I get better but testing things for sure. Haven't tried the laser rifle though. Thanks man.
@DJINN leukoplast: Interesting, same. I usually pull up the sights, adjust then open fire but this happens sometimes 0.13 sec http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNbNe4heyFY haha. I will turn off vibration though. Thanks.
To everyone. Thanks for posting. i will defiantly be testing these ideas out. Mostly knowing the map and enemy mnovements is a priority. |
SquaggaTCT
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2013.02.18 03:28:00 -
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A lot of other people that are "good" at the game seem to have the same answer as I do. I simply dont know how I play the way that I do. Just natural reflexes I suppose. Taught myself how to surf in two days. Aim down your sights when your far away, use the hip fire when you're closer. Grit through the tough part knowing you're going to take them down before they'll take you down |
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2866
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Posted - 2013.02.18 03:29:00 -
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One kill at a time. |
Moejoe Omnipotent
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
241
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Posted - 2013.02.18 03:39:00 -
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SP grind until you have 400+ shields then pubstomp on newbies.
Also the aiming/gun mechanics in this game are awkward and the hit detection is off. |
ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2013.02.18 03:42:00 -
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Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:SP grind until you have 400+ shields then pubstomp on newbies.
Also the aiming/gun mechanics in this game are awkward and the hit detection is off.
Damage mods are actually much better for pub-stomps
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DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
288
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Posted - 2013.02.18 03:49:00 -
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Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:SP grind until you have 400+ shields then pubstomp on newbies.
Also the aiming/gun mechanics in this game are awkward and the hit detection is off.
I am always reluctant to stack too heavily with shields (or anything for that matter). My biggest concern is getting too used to it, then using something else in those high slots and throwing off my balance of what I was previously used to. |
Big miku
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
91
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Posted - 2013.02.18 03:53:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:I am always reluctant to stack too heavily with shields (or anything for that matter). My biggest concern is getting too used to it, then using something else in those high slots and throwing off my balance of what I was previously used to.
I always up juggling the old "Do I want DPS or do I want to Tank" DPS is winning these days. |
Valentinee Wigginn
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
0
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Posted - 2013.02.18 03:58:00 -
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Also do not be scared to try new builds. I was a sniper and logi at then beginning because that is what I felt comfortable with, then I tried the forge gun out and my scores dramatically improved. |
Sgt Kirk
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
347
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Posted - 2013.02.18 04:00:00 -
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Right now people are using complex damage mods like crazy. |
Piercing Serenity
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
181
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Posted - 2013.02.18 04:03:00 -
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- Situational Awareness - Learning about your opponent - Always move - Maximize your fittings - Learn from those better than you
I was in your position eight months ago. Dust is my first FPS. I was pubstomped into a fine paste during my first few weeks. I looked up all of the hits "How to be better at FPS games" Google offered me. Things just started to click after a while though.
I broke free of the tunnel vision that crippled me in my earlier days. Getting "that one kill" made me completely unaware of my surroundings. After dying thousands of times, learned to look for the slight flashes of red on my screen or mini map. I recognized that some players assume that firefights are like pokemon battles - You're safe as long as no one looks at you. I used this to my advantage to catch someone off guard as I made my escape.
I learned to listen to the sounds of the battlefield. You start to hear how long three-seconds is once you fight enough forge guns. You learn that Burst ARs can only shoot about 10 times before they have to reload. You start to recognize who jumps because they saw you jump, and who jumps because they know what they're doing.
Movement is huge in Dust. Especially with snipers about. It took me countless shots to the head to learn that I needed to run in zigzags when I heard bullets whizzing around me, and run in circles when I hack anything.
After playing for a while, I learned the importance of core skills. I currently have 206 CPU and 39 PG on my Type II. i nearly fit three complex mods in addition to a gauged nano hive and standard weapons. That comes only with really looking into what each skill offered me.
Most important of all, however, is to recognize that there will always be people better than you by leaps and bounds. I used to think that I was going to be the best Duster out there. I worked for every point on my KDR and W/L ratio. I've made a lot of success, and I'm still behind some corp mates by three whole people. If you want to see true improvement you have to utilize those people, regardless of who they are, because they're invaluable resources. Using myself as an example, I stand to gain a lot about FPS from Kreyshawn, James, Nighteagle, and Laz from PFBHz. But i also stand a lot to gain from people like Protoman, Axl, Calamity Jane, and The Polish Hammer. Don't post ridiculous threads
There are all people who know how to do what they do best far better than I do. The fastest and most sure-fire way for me to get better is to learn from them.
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IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
325
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Posted - 2013.02.18 04:04:00 -
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1.) I'm always aware of my surroundings. You'll never see me out in open terrain, I always have some form of cover around me.
2.) I tend to follow a teammate, I can back him up and he can do the same for me, 2 is always better than 1.
3.) Supply Depots, use them. they replenish your ammo, shields, and armor simply by changing fits.
4.) In close quarters when you find yourself against 2 or 3 guys and you need to reload, don't, Switch to your sidearm. Reloading in this game is a death sentence, even if you know you are going to die, switching to your sidearm will be more beneficial to take out that last bit of health or take out someone's shields for your teammate to take the kill.
5.) If you are having trouble with your aim then I suggest you follow this tip. Shields > Damage mods. Once you are able to aim for the head or upper body efficiently and effectively I would say Damage mods are your new best friend.
6.) knowing when to retreat, rushing 3 guys head on is not going to end well for you. Like the games you've mentioned above, doing this is very much possible with a positive outcome. It is not the case in Dust, when outnumbered, retreat, throw a grenade, and take cover. At this point, you can very much take out all 3 guys if they've decided to chase you down since they mostly likely will come from different directions or one at a time.
or ignore all this and roll with a squad |
Toona Akiga
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
13
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Posted - 2013.02.18 04:04:00 -
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Camp a Large Blaster Turret. |
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SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2013.02.18 04:15:00 -
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Pro tip - Shoot your gun around corners. People don't know anything other then a red dot has lit up. They'll come... they always come. *pets his hmg* |
Striker Battalion
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.02.18 04:24:00 -
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There are a ton of good tips here.
In having competed against and playing with many of the top players and watching their tactics, movements, and gun play the number one thing I noted is their ability to quickly I.D and lock on a target, hit it, and hit mostly the head. No wasted movements trying to obtain the shot and little to no shots off target.
Its amazing to watch and brutal to go against. The fact that many of them do this with a game pad vs. KBM is also impressive.
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Malcolm Melvin
BurgezzE.T.F
10
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Posted - 2013.02.18 04:25:00 -
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You have to play smart, change both x & y sensitivities to however YOU feel comfortable with.The whole 0.0 is not for EVERBODY.You gotta think outside the box and read your enemies movements.You gotta think ahead of time so you can predict what the ememy is going to do next. EXAMPLE he might go left,run towards you,move right,BUNNYHOP,hide under cover,hide behind supply depot etc.As for you, you must take advantage of the environment that surrounds you.Hide behind walls,pillars etc if you under heavy fire.If your enemy is low on armor and you HAVE TO RELOAD,switch to your pistol and take him/her down.I am telling you something WITHOUT needing AUR to boost skills up or having skills for that matter.I am telling you a strategy that all fps games can do (if there is crouch included) I have been playing FPS and 3rd person shooter games for over 12 years (I am 21 years old).9 times out of ten I am TOP 3 best players on the scoreboard in all fps & 3PS games that i have played.HARDCORE GAMER OUT |
zeek1227 zeek1227
Blitzkrieg Co.
144
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Posted - 2013.02.18 04:37:00 -
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Don Know wrote:I have been playing fps games for a long time (007/Perfect dark/even older) and I am decent at other online fps games (COD/MAG/SE/ect...yeah I mentioned COD but hear me out) ;however, Dust seems different.
I have been here since closed beta and have improved but how do you guys get those crazy scores? It feels weird, like I cant get a grip with aiming at a enemy without firing to the left or right somewhat (Mostly AR but testing other things). I would like to hear you're thoughts. Constructive criticism appreciated.
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zeek1227 zeek1227
Blitzkrieg Co.
144
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Posted - 2013.02.18 04:38:00 -
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Don Know wrote:I have been playing fps games for a long time (007/Perfect dark/even older) and I am decent at other online fps games (COD/MAG/SE/ect...yeah I mentioned COD but hear me out) ;however, Dust seems different.
I have been here since closed beta and have improved but how do you guys get those crazy scores? It feels weird, like I cant get a grip with aiming at a enemy without firing to the left or right somewhat (Mostly AR but testing other things). I would like to hear you're thoughts. Constructive criticism appreciated.
Master the fitting and the aiming And you will go far kid (With a thousand lies and a good disguise) |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
244
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Posted - 2013.02.18 04:45:00 -
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zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote:Don Know wrote:I have been playing fps games for a long time (007/Perfect dark/even older) and I am decent at other online fps games (COD/MAG/SE/ect...yeah I mentioned COD but hear me out) ;however, Dust seems different.
I have been here since closed beta and have improved but how do you guys get those crazy scores? It feels weird, like I cant get a grip with aiming at a enemy without firing to the left or right somewhat (Mostly AR but testing other things). I would like to hear you're thoughts. Constructive criticism appreciated.
Master the fitting and the aiming And you will go far kid (With a thousand lies and a good disguise)
Hit em' right between the eyes |
DigiOps
DUST University Ivy League
85
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Posted - 2013.02.18 05:04:00 -
[37] - Quote
Don Know wrote:@DigiOps: Haha. I've been grinding ISK for a while waiting to use it when I get better but testing things for sure. Haven't tried the laser rifle though. Thanks man. When you do test it out, bare in mind it is in every sense an "inverted shotgun". You'll see what I mean when you try it out. lol |
Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
323
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Posted - 2013.02.18 05:28:00 -
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First rule of being successful at any online shooter, get better internets. |
Protocake JR
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
22
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Posted - 2013.02.18 05:50:00 -
[39] - Quote
Don Know wrote:I have been playing fps games for a long time (007/Perfect dark/even older) and I am decent at other online fps games (COD/MAG/SE/ect...yeah I mentioned COD but hear me out) ;however, Dust seems different.
I have been here since closed beta and have improved but how do you guys get those crazy scores? It feels weird, like I cant get a grip with aiming at a enemy without firing to the left or right somewhat (Mostly AR but testing other things). I would like to hear you're thoughts. Constructive criticism appreciated.
make sure you are using the left (movement) stick for fine tuning your shot for long/ mid-long range firefights. |
Fletcher Ironfist
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
3
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Posted - 2013.02.18 07:10:00 -
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I take it the majority of you are using the controller and not keyboard and mouse, then? I've always been a PC guy, so I wondered if that puts me at a great disadvantage over everyone else. |
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Full Metal Kitten
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
150
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Posted - 2013.02.18 07:36:00 -
[41] - Quote
Awesome thread. Lots of great advice from some top notch peeps representin'. GG! |
Deadeyes Anterie
Crimson Ravens Talons RISE of LEGION
269
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Posted - 2013.02.18 07:43:00 -
[42] - Quote
All my 40+ matches come from running 2 complex shield extenders, and an assault type-II suit. When your shield is ~400 its really really easy to win firefights. Then when your shield is back and you are at full hp in a few seconds you can hunt down your next target. |
BaD FuRrYV2
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.02.18 07:58:00 -
[43] - Quote
Don Know wrote:I have been playing fps games for a long time (007/Perfect dark/even older) and I am decent at other online fps games (COD/MAG/SE/ect...yeah I mentioned COD but hear me out) ;however, Dust seems different.
I have been here since closed beta and have improved but how do you guys get those crazy scores? It feels weird, like I cant get a grip with aiming at a enemy without firing to the left or right somewhat (Mostly AR but testing other things). I would like to hear you're thoughts. Constructive criticism appreciated.
how i do it ? with OHK or with out OHK ?
look 1st off most good FPS players dont come at you head on they look for players who are not going to shoot back at them when they shoot at them.
they flank them most use speed and cover be for shooting at some one they all so dont shot unless they know its going to died or why waste ammo and tell everyone around where i am they all so check the player list and try to remeber players and what the last game that they where in vsing them and what they that players used and did in that game. they use skill that they work on every game as well they team up with other like mines
i can keep going on about what makes a good FPS player but 1 thing i do know is there is "NO HONOR IN GETTING KILLS...HONOR ONLY GETS A FOOL KILLED !" |
BaD FuRrYV2
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.02.18 08:01:00 -
[44] - Quote
BaD FuRrYV2 wrote:Don Know wrote:I have been playing fps games for a long time (007/Perfect dark/even older) and I am decent at other online fps games (COD/MAG/SE/ect...yeah I mentioned COD but hear me out) ;however, Dust seems different.
I have been here since closed beta and have improved but how do you guys get those crazy scores? It feels weird, like I cant get a grip with aiming at a enemy without firing to the left or right somewhat (Mostly AR but testing other things). I would like to hear you're thoughts. Constructive criticism appreciated.
how i do it ? with OHK or with out OHK ? look 1st off most good FPS players dont come at you head on they look for players who are not going to shoot back at them when they shoot at them. they flank them most use speed and cover be for shooting at some one they all so dont shot unless they know its going to died or why waste ammo and tell everyone around where i am they all so check the player list and try to remeber players and what the last game that they where in vsing them and what they that players used and did in that game. they use skill that they work on every game as well they team up with other like mines i can keep going on about what makes a good FPS player but 1 thing i do know is there is "NO HONOR IN GETTING KILLS...HONOR ONLY GETS A FOOL KILLED !"
BTW from the 48 laws of power Read 3 and 15 |
BaD FuRrYV2
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.02.18 08:03:00 -
[45] - Quote
for the ones who want to be good like the ones you look up to READ 41 ! |
BaD FuRrYV2
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.02.18 08:07:00 -
[46] - Quote
http://www.loopyoutubevideos.com/v/PNALeYJhnhA |
Coleman Gray
Coalition Of Goverments
47
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Posted - 2013.02.18 09:33:00 -
[47] - Quote
Like with any game, some people are jus better than others at it *shrugs* |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
72
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Posted - 2013.02.18 11:53:00 -
[48] - Quote
You need a very high situational awareness, coupled with knowing when to hip fire or aim down the iron sights and releasing again to hipfire when he has lost most of his health, also need to know if you have time to take him out with bodyshots or if you need to headshot.
Swap targets if one is running away from you, to the one firing at you...chances are the guy running won't kill you.
You need to keep track of every red dot that you pick up, be it close or far away and remember it because something thats far away now, will be closeby in 10 seconds, take note and keep ready for it.
In a firefight against multiple opponents, use one of them as cover if it is possible, kill the weakest links first while staying in cover against the strongest guy.
Don't trust random team mates with your back, when you turn around, they are most likely dead.
Keep your back against a wall whenever possible and don't show your sides to people charging at you, strafing is easy but most people are bad at dodging bullets they cant see comming, so if you strafe, do it to the side where you can still see all the enemies.
Don't Panic and dont let them Hunt you, a good assault is the best defense, putting your back towards a squad never ends well.
Best scores so far are 51/0 on skirmish & 44/0 on ambush using my own advice solo without a team or support with a Type-II suit & Assault Rifle, no damage mods.
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Imp Smash
On The Brink
51
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Posted - 2013.02.18 12:01:00 -
[49] - Quote
Build your suit for high Dps moderate survivability and speed. Then stay away from blue dots. As far as gameplay, never stop moving, aim for the head, burst fire. Good luck. |
Chankk Saotome
CrimeWave Syndicate
170
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Posted - 2013.02.18 12:05:00 -
[50] - Quote
Because I know THIS
Now, my KDR may not be the best, I think I'm edging up on 2.0, but I easily rank in the top of my matches. I've had at least one match where I've ranked 1st without firing a bullet. Logibros forever! |
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KalOfTheRathi
CowTek
168
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Posted - 2013.02.18 12:18:00 -
[51] - Quote
Which crazy scores?
Since your are a CoD player you must mean kills. Kill a lot of Reds, works for me.
There are Hit Box issues so search for Hit Detection should point you in the right direction. More important to Snipers though. For almost everyone else it is time, practice and upping Skills. Also, not firing from the hip with an AR until that is Skilled up or you run a hip-fire friendly AR. I don't run it so I don't recall the name. Also, if hip firing stop shooting before aiming then start shooting again.
If you are talking about War Points (WP) the number that means something down here in the DUST there are more ways to earn WP than there are ways to Kill Reds.
Logi Bro (Logistics with Injector, Hive and Armor Repair) lets me run near the top or, a few hours before today's shutdown, at the top of the leader board while not killing hardly any Reds. Look under the Training Ground Forum and the many Logi Bro posts.
Scout with stamina, shotguns, mass drivers and speed (Kinetic and/or Stamina Mods).
Heavy allows Forge Guns against Installations and HAVs (Tanks). Plus the wondrous carnage device know as the HMG. Have a Logi Bro at your back and KD ratios can look quite good. If you learn how not to rush in and die that is.
Hints: Capture Letter Objective +100 WP Capture most other Installations +50 WP Although preventing a Red Hack from going through on a Letter nets Zero. It might save the MCC which is worth it a significant percentage of the time.
Squad Leader gets commissions when Squad members Defend (or whatever) specified targets. Squad Members get +20% bonus for doing same. SL commision is mostly half the Squad members' bonus. I haven't rechecked all the values.
Logi Bro Points: +10 ammo resupply from Hives +25 triage for repairing Armor (repping). +35 guardian for repping while target is under fire. +60 reviving downed Mercs (and it saves a clone for the Battle and the ISK for the Merc). No WP for fixing Installations and LAVs do to exploits by scumbags.
In closing, DUST is more than Kills. Spend some time in the Training Ground Forum and quit trying to make DUST more like CoD, MAG, whatever. It isn't and it will never be.
Thank God. |
Citrutex
The High and Mighty
63
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Posted - 2013.02.18 12:47:00 -
[52] - Quote
Fletcher Ironfist wrote:I take it the majority of you are using the controller and not keyboard and mouse, then? I've always been a PC guy, so I wondered if that puts me at a great disadvantage over everyone else.
I get quite a few 'nice shotgun' mails, mostly from people who are also running high on the end of match scoreboard. I always ask them if they are controller kb/m... Have only got replies saying controller.
so i dunno, imo, the fluctuating, low frame that seems to effect mouse sensitivity and the poor hit detection makes it harder than it should be to kb/m well. Haven't seen any kb/m user say it 'felt good', is solid, or anything else positive other than 'it exists'.
It feels like unreal engine games on a slow pc http://forums.gamersfirst.com/topic/226344-mouse-accelerationdampening-fix/ https://bittah.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=18608 http://blacklight-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=260911 http://garbledzombie.wordpress.com/2007/02/20/fixing-the-unreal-mouse-lag/ |
Kelshaw Xu
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
65
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Posted - 2013.02.18 12:52:00 -
[53] - Quote
@ the OP
No i didn't read the three page thread....
I don't. I do it with people I trust. Calling out orders, and contacts is crucial. Only time you see me solo is in ambush. Then it's not to kill, it's to see how long I can live. |
James-5955
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
151
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Posted - 2013.02.18 13:24:00 -
[54] - Quote
Necrodermis wrote:Don Know wrote:I have been playing fps games for a long time (007/Perfect dark/even older) and I am decent at other online fps games (COD/MAG/SE/ect...yeah I mentioned COD but hear me out) ;however, Dust seems different.
I have been here since closed beta and have improved but how do you guys get those crazy scores? It feels weird, like I cant get a grip with aiming at a enemy without firing to the left or right somewhat (Mostly AR but testing other things). I would like to hear you're thoughts. Constructive criticism appreciated.
complex damage mods.
Not really.. did a 59-1 infantry only with nothing but complex shield extenders. The guns kill fast enough that damage mods aren't required to kill quickly, if u can land a high percentage of ur shot newer players drop very quickly. With shield extenders it helps survivability, so less down time and more time running around alive and killing.
@ OP... IDK, I just figure practice, practice and more practice. I started FPS with golden eye as well but have spent a stupid amount of hours on lots of different shooters.
Being able to tell where to go helps a lot, most times I realize that I'm ahead of everyone else when it comes to getting to the action so i get first dibs on kills; usually. |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
32
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Posted - 2013.02.18 13:27:00 -
[55] - Quote
What to do with an AR at close range is to not ADS, this means you can use that aim assist to your advantage.
Also quicker turning speed |
SCAT mania
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
76
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Posted - 2013.02.18 13:38:00 -
[56] - Quote
lookin at my map.. id say i spend 50% of the game lookin at it, in between kills, as soon as u spawn in. is great aswell around objectives, when hacking always on the map. peeps pop up for a split sec. the fact that the map gives you the direction of where the red dot is aimin is such a boon. makes it alot easier to sneak up flux em and spray away lol |
trollsroyce
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
164
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Posted - 2013.02.18 13:48:00 -
[57] - Quote
A lot of the high scoring players are eve bittervets who are used to pc and kb/m. The kb/m allows for much higher and faster accuracy than the controller, though I haven't seen any really good kb/m players around (with the top end sticking to pc, where the top competition is).
I'm an average kb/m player and the last fps I played was counter-strike back in 2002. From day1 dust I felt I had a severe advantage because of the controller disparacy. Top end pad players are really good, but in general the public games just feel like you can dance around slow turning controllers, whereason a public cs game you generally could not allow the bads to try and shhot you.
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Rei Shepard
Spectre II
72
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Posted - 2013.02.18 15:46:00 -
[58] - Quote
Quote:so i dunno, imo, the fluctuating, low frame that seems to effect mouse sensitivity and the poor hit detection makes it harder than it should be to kb/m well. Haven't seen any kb/m user say it 'felt good', is solid, or anything else positive other than 'it exists'.
Most of the time when you drag the mouse quickly the FPS drops sub 20 making it really hard to accurately AIM for the head, whereas movies ive seen from good controller user people, the controller moves as fast as the fastest run speed and since it isnt getting jerked around as with KB/M, they dont run into FPS issues.
I am used to a solid 60+ FPS, usually 100 capped and i feel handicapped playing at sub 30 FPS, especially when you experience input lag + low frame rate and you need to pull of a long distance AR shot, then i start missing or when there are multiple explosions going on and FPs drops, it seems hitboxes go out the window and no shot connects at point blank range.
Really odd how somehow none of your shots connect. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
72
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Posted - 2013.02.18 16:15:00 -
[59] - Quote
Quote:A lot of the high scoring players are eve bittervets who are used to pc and kb/m. The kb/m allows for much higher and faster accuracy than the controller, though I haven't seen any really good kb/m players around (with the top end sticking to pc, where the top competition is).
The main problem on PC is that MOST good players are closet hackers, its easy to hack on a PC shooter if you pay for premium cheats. Sure there are some legit awsome people but on PC each game feels like playing against some guy in pro league in the Counter Strike era, while his friends barely keep up or drag him down.
Quote:I'm an average kb/m player and the last fps I played was counter-strike back in 2002. From day1 dust I felt I had a severe advantage because of the controller disparacy. Top end pad players are really good, but in general the public games just feel like you can dance around slow turning controllers, whereason a public cs game you generally could not allow the bads to try and shhot you.
A bad KB/M player or a bad Pad player is pretty much the same, they are going to die....allot in APB R you should go into a bronze district (bronze player = bad player), solo with no mods or anything that would give you an advantage, you can mop up an entire opposing team by just walking trough em if you got good skills you can go 30/0 against an entire team easy, solo.
Had one guy msg me once that i should get some backup as it was 6 vs 1, i told em it was ok...he rage quit midgame as i kept jump sniping em
Quote:I'm an average kb/m player and the last fps I played was counter-strike back in 2002.
Stick do Dust, i aint going back to PC either while i have a Nvidia 680 GTX in my system, having played against normal people i doubt i can go back and play against hackers & cheathers with Wallhacks & Aimbots, no spread, Pro settings (acts human but has superhuman aim once locked on) and so on.
And then there are the 5-8 PM's you get each day being called a hacker because normal people on PC cant distinguish between a skilled player and a hacker.
FPS games on PC are a sad bunch, wish it was still the good ol'CS era.
This got me allot of hatetells :p |
Don Know
Me My Alts And I
9
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Posted - 2013.02.19 03:40:00 -
[60] - Quote
@DigiOps: Hah, I know what you mean by inverted now. I haven't used the LR till release but now I am pretty decent with it. Got to up the range skills though .
@Piercing Serenity: hmm, that will be really helpful. I am actually almost done basic skills or so but sounds is something I will defiantly pay close attention to (Usually play with lower volume). For sure, will be looking up game plays of others. Thank you.
@IRuby Heart: "Switch to you're sidearm, it's faster than reloading" -Shall not name the game . Yeah, I am not rushing anymore...till I get remote explosives haha.
@SoTa PoP: Interesting. Pretty sure you have got me doing that.
@Striker Battalion: Nice, I am practicing head shots right now
@Malcolm Melvin: I am so used to filling sensitivity to max but I am trying to find a suitable speed. Very helpful.
@Th3rdSun: HAHAHA. I know what you mean on certian games .
@Deadeyes Anterie: 400 shields hmmm (I wonder, how the Caldari heavy is gonna be) I will do that soon.
@BaD FuRrYV2: As I read those, I already notice I practice some. For example, # 41 is something I believe. To make something of you're own and be the next you. Thanks.
@Rei Shepard: Intresting points, defiantly learning from these!
@Chankk Saotome: Hey, I will check the thread soon.
@ Everyone: This thread has helped me quite a bit and I thank you guys for it. I am now pinning down what kills me most after taking the strategies discussed. I mostly play ambush, thus spawning awkwardly gets me; however, staying around partners are a priority now. To all that discussed KB/M; I may try that to see how it is . Thanks again. |
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Boomer Dues Mortis
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
40
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Posted - 2013.02.19 03:50:00 -
[61] - Quote
I play a heavy with a 7.65 k/d, what I do is I know my limitations and what fights I can win. I also do not charge straight into a line of fire, I will take an extra 20 seconds and flank them. I go into battle trying to get the best advantage and I try to never go into the open. I play very defensive-aggressive.
I currently run a type 2 heavy A standard hmg 1 complex damage mod 1 militia shield extender 1 basic armor repairer militia grenades
My total suit costs 36k |
Don Know
Me My Alts And I
9
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Posted - 2013.02.19 07:34:00 -
[62] - Quote
KalOfTheRathi wrote:Which crazy scores?
Since your are a CoD player you must mean kills. Kill a lot of Reds, works for me.
There are Hit Box issues so search for Hit Detection should point you in the right direction. More important to Snipers though. For almost everyone else it is time, practice and upping Skills. Also, not firing from the hip with an AR until that is Skilled up or you run a hip-fire friendly AR. I don't run it so I don't recall the name. Also, if hip firing stop shooting before aiming then start shooting again.
If you are talking about War Points (WP) the number that means something down here in the DUST there are more ways to earn WP than there are ways to Kill Reds.
Logi Bro (Logistics with Injector, Hive and Armor Repair) lets me run near the top or, a few hours before today's shutdown, at the top of the leader board while not killing hardly any Reds. Look under the Training Ground Forum and the many Logi Bro posts.
Scout with stamina, shotguns, mass drivers and speed (Kinetic and/or Stamina Mods).
Heavy allows Forge Guns against Installations and HAVs (Tanks). Plus the wondrous carnage device know as the HMG. Have a Logi Bro at your back and KD ratios can look quite good. If you learn how not to rush in and die that is.
Hints: Capture Letter Objective +100 WP Capture most other Installations +50 WP Although preventing a Red Hack from going through on a Letter nets Zero. It might save the MCC which is worth it a significant percentage of the time.
Squad Leader gets commissions when Squad members Defend (or whatever) specified targets. Squad Members get +20% bonus for doing same. SL commision is mostly half the Squad members' bonus. I haven't rechecked all the values.
Logi Bro Points: +10 ammo resupply from Hives +25 triage for repairing Armor (repping). +35 guardian for repping while target is under fire. +60 reviving downed Mercs (and it saves a clone for the Battle and the ISK for the Merc). No WP for fixing Installations and LAVs do to exploits by scumbags.
In closing, DUST is more than Kills. Spend some time in the Training Ground Forum and quit trying to make DUST more like CoD, MAG, whatever. It isn't and it will never be.
Thank God.
(posting and rewording this here)
I wanted to know how some of the other players in Dust do so well without getting steamrolled most of the time (FIrst). ( I had a lot of battles were I just die like crazy. I mean, after a while it kind of gets annoying when others see you and don`t back you up. That is why I was trying to build a foundation for myself)
Through the thread it turned into something of trying to get opinions of others on how to better my game (And others reading this for the same reason) and not get steamrolled so much. It has worked a lot actually. I took a lot of what people have to say and applied it to this game. Right now, I use a heavy with a laser rifle and not run into battles for picking when to fight and not to fight; furthermore, watch for distinct sounds, stay around partners, knowing when to back off and much more.
What I want to really say about the COD part is I play more than just for the kills. I will go for the objectives and blow up that tank regardless if no one else will even when I know I`ll die hoping others will do the same to take it down for it can ruin the whole match. I mostly started with logi a lot to help out team mates and if I go negative there, I won`t really care for replenishing partners is important so the battle can go on; furthermore, their gear is way more expensive than mine but it is a risk I am willing to take. I will go for the objective and build team work. I never wanted to make Dust like the other games. There are tactics in Dust if you`re willing to do so. I do but I play Pub matches, thus I do try as much as I can to help the team in my own way but in my matches 50% of the time we are scattered and sometimes we get hunted down and die alone (Not against running alone, shot gunner time! ). All I am trying to say is I like this game and wanted to get better for If I could not help myself than helping others would be difficult. I really like Dust and will be defiantly be staying here for the long run. Heard about Dust years ago through EVE and I love the concept and play style of the EVE universe.
Also wanted to say, thank you for taking the time to read and also for the info. I am grateful. |
Reimus Klinsman
BetaMax.
319
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Posted - 2013.02.19 08:00:00 -
[63] - Quote
I haven't found this game to be hard at all. I have around a 4 kdr this time around and it would be higher if I wasn't so impatient. I run with no damage mods and only recently switched to a GEK. I just run at everyone and most of the time they melt like butter.
Any of my gungame rests on years of counterstrike. That's been the only FPS worth a damn all these years. |
Don Know
Me My Alts And I
9
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Posted - 2013.02.20 03:41:00 -
[64] - Quote
Boomer Dues Mortis wrote:I play a heavy with a 7.65 k/d, what I do is I know my limitations and what fights I can win. I also do not charge straight into a line of fire, I will take an extra 20 seconds and flank them. I go into battle trying to get the best advantage and I try to never go into the open. I play very defensive-aggressive.
I currently run a type 2 heavy A standard hmg 1 complex damage mod 1 militia shield extender 1 basic armor repairer militia grenades
My total suit costs 36k
36k, Damn. I have a dire sentinel so...
-Dire Sentinel -Laser Rifle -Militia armor plate -Militia shield extenders
Under 7500 Isk, give or take if I add basic armor or shields.
You think that is cheap? My logi cost under 3000 isk with everything to repair, revive and try to stay alive . Thanks, I will be looking at damage mods later on when I get better at aiming.
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Don Know
Me My Alts And I
9
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Posted - 2013.02.20 03:44:00 -
[65] - Quote
Reimus Klinsman wrote:I haven't found this game to be hard at all. I have around a 4 kdr this time around and it would be higher if I wasn't so impatient. I run with no damage mods and only recently switched to a GEK. I just run at everyone and most of the time they melt like butter.
Any of my gungame rests on years of counterstrike. That's been the only FPS worth a damn all these years.
How much of a difference does the GEK make between the Exile since you don't use damage mods? I mean because I see it is like 1.5 damage more os so? (Thanks) |
Sergeant Wiznowski
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
38
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Posted - 2013.02.20 09:31:00 -
[66] - Quote
It's 5% and equates to 20-30 HP difference in DPS depending on skills and mods.
Just to illustrate why Proto Assaults eat even 1000 HP heavy for breakfast:.
Base AR DPS is between 387,5 no skills and around 511 with Weaponry 5, 2 complex damage mods. If you add 3rd damage mod and AR Proficiency ,standard AR makes around 624 DPS and Duvolle 686 DPS
Basically it is a game who will start shooting first or have more range or more teammates around.
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rebecca watson
Universal Allies Inc.
41
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Posted - 2013.02.20 10:27:00 -
[67] - Quote
when people say "situational awareness" what they're really saying is they're "comfortable with the map" This means you've seen team members climb up this ladder and shoot down at certain areas, and you've been sniped 100x times from a certain hill, so now you know to keep cover on your side at that angle...........
I'm a logi primarily, but sometimes when im drunk and just want to cap my char out, i play skirmishes solo:
1. spawn uplink fit, either stealth scout (profile dampener) or whatever, you put an uplink on top of a central rooftop (not sniper nest) now you shoot as many people as you can, or jump off the roof to a supply depot to swap into your fit of choice. My reccomendation is skilling into repairing nanohives. you can just live inside of those
2. profit. |
rebecca watson
Universal Allies Inc.
41
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Posted - 2013.02.20 10:30:00 -
[68] - Quote
or not even a rooftop, it's all about learning the maps is what i meant to say. It'll come to you, keep playing and i am assuming you have mic and everything- you'll learn the spots that you can hide and pop out to mow people down, then retreat back into cover.
ofc, being in a squad w people to back u up is HUGE as well |
Sontie
VENGEANCE FOR HIRE
95
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Posted - 2013.02.20 10:37:00 -
[69] - Quote
ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI wrote:Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:SP grind until you have 400+ shields then pubstomp on newbies.
Also the aiming/gun mechanics in this game are awkward and the hit detection is off. Damage mods are actually much better for pub-stomps
Agains't other ARs maybe. I run MD and you running damage mods just makes you a quicky kill. And dying can seriously derail a roflstomp in progress (spawning takes forever and who knows where you might spawn) |
Xander Mercy
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
91
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Posted - 2013.02.20 10:42:00 -
[70] - Quote
pick your fights there's no shame in running away this beta is small enough that you'll come across names of players recognize if you don't think you can take them down go the other way or try to flank them if i see the name of a heavy i know is good i wait for back up most of the time |
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Knight Enforcer
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.02.20 10:55:00 -
[71] - Quote
Vigilance and Audacity my friend. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
72
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Posted - 2013.02.20 10:56:00 -
[72] - Quote
Quote:when people say "situational awareness" what they're really saying is they're "comfortable with the map"
Some people actually know how many red dots are around them, how far they are and how many meaty team members are there to cover your back and keep an eye on the minimap while aiming at people, while also juggling shields vs opponents you know are dangerous or not and not just knowing the map.
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Pranekt Tyrvoth
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
177
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Posted - 2013.02.20 10:58:00 -
[73] - Quote
Hatred.
Hones accuracy to a fine point. |
Sontie
VENGEANCE FOR HIRE
95
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Posted - 2013.02.20 11:00:00 -
[74] - Quote
Yup. It's that moment when you get to focused on a kill and don't notice that all the blue dots around you have either fallen back or been wiped out that you die. No one can kill 6 red dots come at them from 3 sides. |
NIKIA BETHUNE
UnReaL.
22
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Posted - 2013.02.20 12:04:00 -
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I started out pretty bad myself... I'm still bad. But here is what I do. 1. Stay the hell away from blueberries you can't trust them to have your back when you need them to save ur life they will let u down 8 out of 10 times 2. When you spawn and ur alone spin look run to a better position next learn where they will but spawning and catch them off guard. 3. Watch your radar omg I'm assault dropsuit command still at 1 and I sneak up on so many people. 4. Position position position I find its best to play like a shotgun scout I do not run into the middle of the map at no point. I'll skirt the edges looking for those that are alone.(I love rushing groups too) 5.keep this in mide in a engagement (who has the better position) does he have cover? Do i? Is cover close? Avoid fighting in the open if you do make sure ur not there long. 6. This is the same as 4 but it can't be stressed enough FLANK FLANK FLANK don't be a hero fighting head on let ur blueberries do that. Be sneaky. 7. Use ur blueberries as bait. Not sure if its a trap let that blue dot go see first. Not sure if there is a sniper well that blueberries face just exploded so... Ya there is. Blueberries are there as ur pawns use them accordingly. 8. Never stand still. Omg this has gotten me killed more than anything even if u think ur safe to sit on that nano hive keep moving 9.its been said many times but ill say it again don't me scared to back down from a fight if escape is near and it should be if u listened to #4 if someone get the better of me a retreat around a corner and .... W a i t f o r i t. Like clock work every time if ur weaken they chase u some times ur not wait for them to turn that corner u should be in cover.. lol toss grenades to cover ur escape. 10. When taking on groups of 3 or more grenades are ur besty cook them and throw it in someones face use them to cut off a flank... Use them!!
Two more i know u don't wanna read all this
11. Don't take the cru let the enemy have it(ambush) once they have it spawn camp the **** off of them for being stupid. If u see a blueberry hacking it like those 50 points are the world to him shoot him he may stop most Likly he won't or let a red berry kill him for being stupid.
12. Almost forgot the last one.. People stay the hell away form the tanks omg people run towards tanks like their giving away free lil kim ****. Look if tank sneaks up on u and yes they will because some how a super soldier is deaf and dumb and can't pick up a 10 ton wrecking ball heading toward him til its in his a s s... U have a few options a this point first the most likly just die. 2 run for cover.... Not in a straight line either. 3 if ur fast end stick close to the tank and force him out to kill u.
That's all I can think of hope it help. And no if ur with a good squad u won't get many kills but u also won't die as much so.. Yea that why I don't run with unreal all the time til I start dying |
NIKIA BETHUNE
UnReaL.
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Posted - 2013.02.20 12:08:00 -
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Excuse my grammar don't feel like fixing it u should still understand what I was saying |
The Dragon Ascendant
Celtic Anarchy
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Posted - 2013.02.20 12:12:00 -
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I sacrifice the blood of innocents to the Chaos god Tzeentch. The Changer of the Ways guides my strikes. |
NIKIA BETHUNE
UnReaL.
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Posted - 2013.02.20 15:33:00 -
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After a second read lots of good info here |
Scalesdini
Universal Allies Inc.
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Posted - 2013.02.20 17:21:00 -
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Don Know wrote:I have been playing fps games for a long time (007/Perfect dark/even older) and I am decent at other online fps games (COD/MAG/SE/ect...yeah I mentioned COD but hear me out) ;however, Dust seems different.
I have been here since closed beta and have improved but how do you guys get those crazy scores? It feels weird, like I cant get a grip with aiming at a enemy without firing to the left or right somewhat (Mostly AR but testing other things). I would like to hear you're thoughts. Constructive criticism appreciated.
Distinct lack of SOCOM games on your list. Problem starts right there. Travel back in time and play SOCOM 1/2/3 for years, then play Dust. You'll be fine. |
Captain-Awesome
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.20 18:11:00 -
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offensive searching, defensive shooting. |
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
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Posted - 2013.02.20 18:27:00 -
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Scalesdini wrote:Don Know wrote:I have been playing fps games for a long time (007/Perfect dark/even older) and I am decent at other online fps games (COD/MAG/SE/ect...yeah I mentioned COD but hear me out) ;however, Dust seems different.
I have been here since closed beta and have improved but how do you guys get those crazy scores? It feels weird, like I cant get a grip with aiming at a enemy without firing to the left or right somewhat (Mostly AR but testing other things). I would like to hear you're thoughts. Constructive criticism appreciated.
Distinct lack of SOCOM games on your list. Problem starts right there. Travel back in time and play SOCOM 1/2/3 for years, then play Dust. You'll be fine.
^^this^^ treating your clone as 1 that doesnt heal or respawn, and when u die sitting for minutes on the bench..will teach you to use some strategy for survival
+1 |
Don Know
Me My Alts And I
9
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Posted - 2013.02.21 21:16:00 -
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@Sergeant Wiznowski: I see and agree with the last part.
@rebecca watson: Mic, yes. Not too sure if I can talk to people with my mic for it is a turtle beach x32 for XBOX but it sort of works for PS3 (I can hear people but cant plug into the controller). Do uplinks disappear after you die. I ask because, my ammo hives stayed for a while after my deaths.
@Rei Shepard: Double damps with a amplifier FTW (First time using ftw, never again )
@Xander Mercy: I like to call it a tactical retreat .
@Sontie: Mass drivers love hitting me in the face, thus only to spawn in a enemy crew of heavies, true story. . Agreed, I kill two reds and suddenly my blues are nowhere to be found, then out nowhere five reds that know what their doing surround me in all directions. I should pack more remote explosives reminds me of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKnBwZP_xj0, "If I go down, I am takeing them with me"
@Scalesdini: True, have not played SOCOM but I have played others that I did not list; however, prob nowhere the amount of team work it would take. May play in the future, thanks.
@Captain-Awesome. Yeah, defensive with lasers and squads and offensive with scout and shotguns. Nice name, do you watch Chuck?
@CHICAGOCUBS4EVER: This is unrelated but more on the thought process. After watching (Don't care what anyone thinks of it whether hate/like/neutral) Gamer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2g94xQmtHw. I started taking staying alive more seriously in shooters and video games in general even though I have "those games" or the steamroll from time to time. I looked at what kills me the most, now it is mostly spawns and gang ups. Situation awareness is something I have tio wacth for the gamg ups.
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Don Know
Me My Alts And I
9
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Posted - 2013.02.21 21:20:00 -
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NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:I started out pretty bad myself... I'm still bad. But here is what I do. 1. Stay the hell away from blueberries you can't trust them to have your back when you need them to save ur life they will let u down 8 out of 10 times 2. When you spawn and ur alone spin look run to a better position next learn where they will but spawning and catch them off guard. 3. Watch your radar omg I'm assault dropsuit command still at 1 and I sneak up on so many people. 4. Position position position I find its best to play like a shotgun scout I do not run into the middle of the map at no point. I'll skirt the edges looking for those that are alone.(I love rushing groups too) 5.keep this in mide in a engagement (who has the better position) does he have cover? Do i? Is cover close? Avoid fighting in the open if you do make sure ur not there long. 6. This is the same as 4 but it can't be stressed enough FLANK FLANK FLANK don't be a hero fighting head on let ur blueberries do that. Be sneaky. 7. Use ur blueberries as bait. Not sure if its a trap let that blue dot go see first. Not sure if there is a sniper well that blueberries face just exploded so... Ya there is. Blueberries are there as ur pawns use them accordingly. 8. Never stand still. Omg this has gotten me killed more than anything even if u think ur safe to sit on that nano hive keep moving 9.its been said many times but ill say it again don't me scared to back down from a fight if escape is near and it should be if u listened to #4 if someone get the better of me a retreat around a corner and .... W a i t f o r i t. Like clock work every time if ur weaken they chase u some times ur not wait for them to turn that corner u should be in cover.. lol toss grenades to cover ur escape. 10. When taking on groups of 3 or more grenades are ur besty cook them and throw it in someones face use them to cut off a flank... Use them!!
Two more i know u don't wanna read all this
11. Don't take the cru let the enemy have it(ambush) once they have it spawn camp the **** off of them for being stupid. If u see a blueberry hacking it like those 50 points are the world to him shoot him he may stop most Likly he won't or let a red berry kill him for being stupid.
12. Almost forgot the last one.. People stay the hell away form the tanks omg people run towards tanks like their giving away free lil kim ****. Look if tank sneaks up on u and yes they will because some how a super soldier is deaf and dumb and can't pick up a 10 ton wrecking ball heading toward him til its in his a s s... U have a few options a this point first the most likly just die. 2 run for cover.... Not in a straight line either. 3 if ur fast end stick close to the tank and force him out to kill u.
That's all I can think of hope it help. And no if ur with a good squad u won't get many kills but u also won't die as much so.. Yea that why I don't run with unreal all the time til I start dying
Before I read, I will not throw in any info out the window for grammar, I am greatful you took the time to comment.
1. You're right, that has been happening to me more often. I have to squad up soon.
2. When the match starts I don't spawn good gear anymore for that reason. .
3. *Nods* Scout here with double damps and amplifier and shotgun .
4. Nice, have you went up to a crowd an threw remote explosives? (You may find this disturbing or funny. 43 secs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2lkJfslkso)
5. Yeah, I should defiantly not engage on certain points that I do now.
6. #3 ^ when I am on the run.
7. But...but the bears like eating blueberry's
8. Will do. Still trying to fix my strafing for when I am shooting AR, I tend to move one direction.
9 and 10. Will do, how long can you cook grenades till they go off (Not going to be around console till a nother 8 hours, thank you).
Trust me, I will read everything even if it was a wall of text.
11. Interesting and quite devious, will do that. The more I play ambush the more they seem like a death trap.
12. If only I knew what was bleeped . Yeah, high level tanks are coming up quite often. Will do what I can.
Thank you, I appreciate the info and prob will be looking at something bigger in the future for squads. |
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