Just saying if you use a HMG and you die more than twice in a game, you are probably really bad.

Yeah I specced into HMG's last build just to try it out. Some guy with and AR started shooting me, so I went to take a shower, I went to school, I came back home, I ate dinner, and by the time I got back to dust I was at half health and I just sprayed him with my HMG and laughed.

Stupid forum ate my post....

Basically, HMG needs a serious range nerf / accuracy nerf at range, aside from the assault HMG, since that's garbage already. It also needs to have a faster heat up rate, so you actually have to juggle your bursts to maintain optimal dps and not overheat.

For haha's I made a Type I Heavy with a Pistol and an SMG, went 8/0 the only time I used it

(Oh, and I'm a full time HMG heavy, trust me, this thing is too easy to use. I make it my life's work to kill all HMG heavies I see, even periodically committing suicide by dropping into a sea of red dots, taking as many down with me as I can (which is usually quite a few, the HMG is a thing of glory in crowded CQC, as it should be

This post and video are pure truth. Excellent commentary too, you sound like a cool dude

We need to make this vid viral amongst the Dust community, I rock an assault suit with an AR 100% of the time, and while I have been shouting for a HMG nerf for quite a while, I never got a front-row seat on what it's actually like (I very briefly played with a HMG a few builds back, but that was it).

But wow, point and click is a perfect way to describe it, as the reticle is quite large. So you simply fit a player in that circle, fire, and they magically disappear. Heavies have massive health, the HMG has loads of ammo, massive magazine capacity, and gets more accurate the longer it is shot?... how could anybody not think this was OP?

As an AR player, I can (and do) get dropped instantly by militia AR's, I get hit a few times from any weapon and my heath is hurting. As an AR player I pretty much have to be an athlete of epic proportions due to all the bobbing, weaving and strafing I have to do to stay alive (yet still make bullets hit). Not to mention I can't just spray-and-pray, I have to be accurate and make every last bullet count. Even out of the heavies range it takes almost two clips to take down a decently speced heavy with my GEk and two complex damage mods, and that's if they just stand there and lets me soak bullets into them without running to cover.


I really hope CCP does something to the HMG soon.







! 1000000000000000000000% agree. I am a a AR user use a typ3 2 assualt armor sometimes Sever logi armor and you hit the point spot on. take time to TRY and run or move from hmg and or try to take them out with a GEK and it wont work. they could have less range, heat up quicker have more recoil something to make this gun not so OP! I hope this nerf comes soon!

This post and video are pure truth. Excellent commentary too, you sound like a cool dude

We need to make this vid viral amongst the Dust community, I rock an assault suit with an AR 100% of the time, and while I have been shouting for a HMG nerf for quite a while, I never got a front-row seat on what it's actually like (I very briefly played with a HMG a few builds back, but that was it).

But wow, point and click is a perfect way to describe it, as the reticle is quite large. So you simply fit a player in that circle, fire, and they magically disappear. Heavies have massive health, the HMG has loads of ammo, massive magazine capacity, and gets more accurate the longer it is shot?... how could anybody not think this was OP?

As an AR player, I can (and do) get dropped instantly by militia AR's, I get hit a few times from any weapon and my heath is hurting. As an AR player I pretty much have to be an athlete of epic proportions due to all the bobbing, weaving and strafing I have to do to stay alive (yet still make bullets hit). Not to mention I can't just spray-and-pray, I have to be accurate and make every last bullet count. Even out of the heavies range it takes almost two clips to take down a decently speced heavy with my GEk and two complex damage mods, and that's if they just stand there and lets me soak bullets into them without running to cover.


I really hope CCP does something to the HMG soon.

like i said, it is what it is. it is op for a new player to be able to come into the game and have this much power and dominance over other classes that have the same amount of sp invested in the build....we can debate all day on it. And Betamax, I have my gimp suit tight and it puts work in,and have no complaints about production, so thanks for the offer, but I hold my ground on it being op

I enjoy running type II heavy with the HMG, I love it, and I laugh when I mow people down due to there being little that can be done about it from the majority of players. As for well put together squads, if 4 men cant take one heavy down....something is wrong 0o...in which yeah, 4 people can easily do it working together, of course you will be able to take one down under those circumstances.

You only posted video from one game where you didn't get so much as 20 kills against harsh newbies, I've gone at least 22-4 with just the enforcer assault set. I do know what I'm talking about as I have played for quite a few builds now. Do your homework son BetaMax is one of the first corps in this game. I don't need views or to impress other vets. I'm just trying to save you from your own ignorance because you don't have the slightest clue of what you're talking about. Ya need to stop acting so butthurt and quit calling for nerfs when no nerfs are needed. You need to learn how to play the game and I am simply trying to give you an opportunity to do that. So do yourself a favor and quit letting your pride do all the talking for you.

I'm new and not very good and I melee HMG heavies to death, your argument is invalid.