You assume this is directly related to the event that imperfects were doing and not to the overall community activity in the bloody game. Tunnelvision. Drop it. Look at the bigger picture maybe? Players play game. Community team covers their activity. Not always individual events all the time. If they want to make video to highlight community and include major corps in it whats the problem with that?

Lol, ain't it a good Merc philosophy: If you're gonna do something good, might as well get something out of it. haha

btw, you left out something I said in your quote.

You look at the big picture. What CCP asked Zion to do is almost exactly what Kain wanted to do. Kain asked CCP if he could do it. He got no reply. Then out of the blue CCP asks Zion to do something very similar to what Kain was already planning on doing.

You look at the big picture. What CCP asked Zion to do is almost exactly what Kain wanted to do. Kain asked CCP if he could do it. He got no reply. Then out of the blue CCP asks Zion to do something very similar to what Kain was already planning on doing.

I appreciate the reply Cmdr Wang. I remember when you stopped by the "Dust OB" channel to listen in on what was going on. It really helped create a good bit of buzz to get the ball rolling.

I guess the main reason I'm upset with the situation was because the request for the event I filed to CCP and is under review is almost exactly the same as what was requested of Zion Shad.

I'll post that mail shortly for clarity.

Here is the mail I sent in (it is long):

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URGENT: Question Regarding Prizes for Saturday Mass Event on 1/19/2012

Dear Support,

GM Pyro asked me to forward my question here regarding prizes that I was considering using for the Mass Orbital Bombardment Event/Test.

TLDR: Can I use a Gurista Saga PSN voucher (or EU one) for a contest tied to the the Mass Orbital Test detailed below.


Info about the event can be found here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=51247&find=unread , which is a follow up to this event: http://evenews24.com/2013/01/12/live-event-dust-514-eve-online-mass-orbital-strike-fest/

I used ISK prizes to reward those who got the first confirmed kills from Orbital Bombardment in the first Orbital event. See the following:

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=461039#post461039

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2456406#post2456406

The contest will be for the best recorded footage of the event and the only requirement for entry is submission of a recording of the event. I am working with a friend of mine who programs an ips/ids device, adds vulnerability detection and maintains build systems for IBM to create a straightforward system for players to get me the footage. Once I receive the entries I will review them and pick the best EVE side footage and Dust side footage.

Currently the prizes include a PLEX awarded to the best EVE side video and 250 million ISK to best Dust side video. For the prize post see the following: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=473664#post473664

Since there is currently no way to transfer money from EvE to dust I was considering using a PSN Voucher for the Gurista saga as a prize (and hopefully get a EU Dust PSN voucher donated to me from an EU player, so I could use it incase the contest winner is from EU).

The purpose of the contest is to increase participation and interest in the event and also create a pool of videos that can then be edited together and use to advertise future community Orbital Bombardment events. I would also like to make this footage available to CCP for internal and potential promotional use if there is any interest there.

Also, If CCP Frame or CCP Nullarbor would like to know the Amarr/Minmatar system pick (ZionShad is picking the Gallente/Caldari one) ahead of time on the off chance dedicating a node is necessary please let me know. I'm currently working with Hans Jagerblitzen to narrow the pick down to three systems for me to then pick one from.

Thank you for your time reviewing this issue and all of there work you guys have put into this game. I've been having a blast.

Sincerely,

Kain Spero

Eve Side: Kane Spero

Hmmm that petition was sent 5 days ago, I once waited for 7 days for my petition to get answer.

Why not send email directly to these community guys or some other ccp if you want urgent answer?

That was sent on the 16th actually, which it also when this thread was created:

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=473664#post473664

I don't have emails for the Devs, nor would I feel it was appropriate to use them like that. There are busy enough as it is and if a GM can handle the issue all the better. No Dev time wasted.

GMs... are.. just... sigh, it's a long story.

At least now we know who is at fault, it was joe the intern! GET HIM!

Can anyone really blame CCP for preferring to interact with Zion over Imps, you know they read the forums right.

So you, CCP and everyone else judges people by the tag under their name? Yeah, because that's real fair isn't it?

I judge people based on how they present themselves. This thread is a pretty good example of Immortals starting a witch hunt over a non issue, not exactly a productive diversion for the beta community. I don't know anything about Kain, all I know is how much of a deal he is making over this. From how they are representing themselves on the forums they are much more interested in getting proper 'credit' and trying to shun other players, over helping the Dust community grow. If they want to run an event, just make an event.

I am just as perplexed as Commander Wang as to how the community is so outraged over this.

I have to say I'm a little surprised by all the drama that arose from this. This isn't the first time we've contacted the player community to help promote DUST and it certainly will not be the last.

We have plans to contact other CEOs of DUST corps to promote dust in other ways, we just don't have the manpower to process dozens of events all at the same time, and so we will need to pace this out over weeks. It just so happens that Zion was the first CEO we contacted. So fear not, we have plans for other leaders of DUST corporations and get others involved.

And please, don't player hate.

it makes me laugh that they are promoting them self as advocates of the community.

i remember imperfects for what they were and still are. in the beginning of this game they had no intentions of test anything. they trolled and grief'd people were dead against balancing and game issues. every other post was "QQ" "scrub" "but hurt" "get good" and so on.

now in the last 4 weeks they have done a OB test WOW! let me get a frickin chair!.

yet ZTCD have fully participated in player and CCP run testing events to our fullest actively encourage, pro-active criticised and suggestions on topics. Tested the game to the best of our abilities.

Imperfects will tell you the did to with the old "sp farming framing from LAV's" that got them into proto gear in....... 10 days was it?
their excuse "oh we are onlyn doing it to highlight to CCP how flawed and exploitable it is"

yet ZionTCD our exploiters for posting up and proving faults with FW mechanics.

people in glass houses comes to mind....

Tbh if your supprised. Then your not connected to the community as u should be. Which is not your falt but the gms should have jumped on this far faster. The overridding feeling people have is that ccp is showing favoritetism to a corp which has been an issue with ccp in the past. Its just in this case we happen to have beers who uses nukes to cut the grass :-P. Put another way this was the straw that broke the cammals back

GG CCP, you just lost the enthusiasm of one of your best community supporters. no idea how the result of this will inspire others to create such events when you just go over their heads and then brush it off with one of the selfish players of dust. The sad thing is it's the community who will retract from creating such events because of decisions like this. And it's everyone who will lose out. Zion, Imperfects, SI, Betamax.

What if this happened with Jenza? What if CCP asked PFB to make a podcast called "DustSide"? I think those defending the result of this should think "what if I were in this position". Like some have said here it may mean little to those that weren't involved, but to those who were it is more.

Oh vey....ENOUGH ALREADY