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Tiel Syysch
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.23 19:30:00 -
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2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:CCP however should be put on notice for this. CCP should know better as it has a record against it for Developer misconduct. What we should decide is if this issue warrants a petition to be passed on to CCP's internal affairs division. See Ref http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eve_online#Developer_misconduct
Honestly, I'd be in support of requesting this. Considering Kain has been trying to contact them over it, and then they turn around and try to hand off endorsement to someone else? Yeah, something doesn't sit right at all with me about it. |
DEADPOOL5241
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.23 19:30:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:DEADPOOL5241 wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Guys - I know some Zion members are here defending Shad - forgive 'em. This thread is coming off wrong in all directions. We of ZionTCD aren't happy about this any more then the imperfects are. This doesn't just undermine the Imperfects and Kain - it undermines us all. Who will make the next event if CCP will give credit and reward to someone else?
We're also still caught up we were even offered an event. We're like giggling children sometimes when handed candy with DUST logos :D
Know that ZionTCD does support you Kain and we're sorry for all this. Best post all day, +1 for trying to make the peace. Heck lets ask GM anybody to close this up and throw away the key. Shut up. We aren't here to make friends we are here for results. This will be a threadnaught and iwll contintue to post till ccp corrects this.
Free Beers, I am not here to make enemies of every player in New Eden, I am satisfied by Kains post in this thread, he is cool with whats happened and working with CCP to correct the issue. I don't point the finger at Zion, I point a giant foam finger at CCP for this enormous mess.
Zions players are coming to their leaders defense, same as you or I would if it was one of ours. Again I don't hate the player, I hate CCP. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2013.01.23 19:32:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:EternalRMG wrote:No One is Perfect everyone makes mistakes ccp or shad doesnt matter, fighting wont make it change CCP is the one and only one who decides who will be the one making those streams
they might have a lots of reasons that we dont know about and were not taking into consideration You need all the variables to solve the equation but we havent all of them so nothing we say is actually right or not right I was actually planning on carrying over the streaming from the Dust For Kids stuff to this, but I hadn't gotten in touch with Jenza about it yet. Streams will be happening on Saturday and they will be awesome and they will make people pay attention to this game. I didn't run the OB stuff by myself. Mobius came up with the idea to create a Orbital Bombardment centered channel. I just ended up being the one who made it and it snowballed from there. That became Dust OB and then OB events followed. Tons have people have helped me keep it going along the way (shout out to Jaiden, Daniel, Corvo, Hans, Beers, D3LTA Superman, the list goes on).I wanted to pass it off to the community because I knew my corp tag could get in the way of making this something even bigger and last for years down the road. The EVE/Dust connection is what sells this game! Everyone in this Beta has worked hard to make this game work and better. From the wall of text posters to the QQ'ers. As beta testers we have put countless hours testing the game to help make it what it is today and what it will be in the future. That is ours to own, but also make us responsible for breaking whatever code when can, exploit any weapon possible 'till its fix, and presenting and pimping this game to the wider community outside the beta to ensure it's success. It doesn't matter how we get down that path. The only thing is at the end of the day this game kicks the **** out of every other FPS and makes a real impact on New Eden that drives people to our ranks as Dusters. SoTa PoP wrote: Know that ZionTCD does support you Kain and we're sorry for all this. I appreciate that. I really do. Shad's be open with me from the get go about the whole thing. It's a kittened up situation. I don't care what anyone says about the imperfect tag. I don't judge a person by the color of there skin or the corp tag they wear. You've done more then 90% of everyone here whose been logging on daily to give CCP all the feed back they could desire.
As a person who only contributes in very specific areas and watches over all - I think it's fair we step up for you as you have for DUST514. |
DEADPOOL5241
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
233
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Posted - 2013.01.23 19:34:00 -
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Scoot Medic wrote:DEADPOOL5241 wrote:Scoot Medic wrote:Free Beers wrote:SoLJae wrote:CCP made a decision to work with Shad and Zion TCD in general. It's childish to presume that Zion Shad doesn't deserve to act upon what CCP offered him and frankly, if the Imperfects learned how to do things the Zion TCD way, they might earn a little more respect and dignity from the community.
You and your members should show a little class and maturity once in a while and one day you might be able to participate in such events yourselves.
**** You. kain has done all the work here and already has set up streamers on both sides the only reason no one saw them was closed beta. Trying to defend your **** leader for taking credit for someone elses work is rich I didn't agree with him, but now I see where hes coming from when he said you had little maturity and class. This could be easily sorted out by talking to ZionShad and not releasing it to a forum of players just to try make Shad look bad. Off topic: Hey, that rhymed. Actually this was a much needed publicly shown discussion, as much as you want this to remain in the shadows of New Eden. I understand why you didn't want to have this dirty laundry about your leader shown around, but we as players all make mistakes even the mighty Zion is not perfect. I honestly dont care about all that stuff, this could've been handled in a much more mature way, instead of calling eachother names. It only proves the point further that some IMPS just don't have any class or maturity.
Agreed, but the fact is it happened, our Corp as shown by our massive support will stand by any of our own, same as you stand by your leader during this. At this point the only party that we should ALL be yelling at is CCP, not our fellow gamers and corps.
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2-Ton Twenty-One
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.23 19:34:00 -
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Tiel Syysch wrote:2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:CCP however should be put on notice for this. CCP should know better as it has a record against it for Developer misconduct. What we should decide is if this issue warrants a petition to be passed on to CCP's internal affairs division. See Ref http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eve_online#Developer_misconduct Honestly, I'd be in support of requesting this. Considering Kain has been trying to contact them over it, and then they turn around and try to hand off endorsement to someone else? Yeah, something doesn't sit right at all with me about it.
I agree this would be the most productive thing to come out of this as everything else has been squared away now that we have heard from Kain himself about it. This would help rope in future problems of this sort and probably help CCP internal affairs with monitoring of Dust 514 for potential problems in the future. |
Scoot Medic
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
50
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Posted - 2013.01.23 19:34:00 -
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I'm not defending Zion in anyway, it may seem that way, but its not. I'm just saying we should hear HIS side of the story first before making assumptions that he wont give Kain any credit. We've already heard how Kain said Zion asked him if he wanted to help out. Bottom line, if Kains not worked up about this situation, why should you be? |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
234
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Posted - 2013.01.23 19:37:00 -
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OK lets stop corp Fight for one second and lets unite and yell at CCP |
Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1041
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Posted - 2013.01.23 19:42:00 -
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DEADPOOL5241 wrote:Free Beers wrote:DEADPOOL5241 wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Guys - I know some Zion members are here defending Shad - forgive 'em. This thread is coming off wrong in all directions. We of ZionTCD aren't happy about this any more then the imperfects are. This doesn't just undermine the Imperfects and Kain - it undermines us all. Who will make the next event if CCP will give credit and reward to someone else?
We're also still caught up we were even offered an event. We're like giggling children sometimes when handed candy with DUST logos :D
Know that ZionTCD does support you Kain and we're sorry for all this. Best post all day, +1 for trying to make the peace. Heck lets ask GM anybody to close this up and throw away the key. Shut up. We aren't here to make friends we are here for results. This will be a threadnaught and iwll contintue to post till ccp corrects this. Free Beers, I am not here to make enemies of every player in New Eden, I am satisfied by Kains post in this thread, he is cool with whats happened and working with CCP to correct the issue. I don't point the finger at Zion, I point a giant foam finger at CCP for this enormous mess. Zions players are coming to their leaders defense, same as you or I would if it was one of ours. Again I don't hate the player, I hate CCP.
As somone to knows 100% whats going on here I can assure you its bullshit by ccp. I brought zionshad into this because kain wanted it to be community.
There was not love/hate thing there. Zionshad and I bump heads but get along jsut fine. I come from eve we are all frenemies.
the zion tcd scrubs can't defend the situations because its not zionshads fault its ccp's. So they come and talk **** to me about like it matters. trying to change subject to naming calling is trolling 101 and the zion scrubs are bad at it.
beers > scrubs tcd |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
234
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Posted - 2013.01.23 19:45:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:DEADPOOL5241 wrote:Free Beers wrote:DEADPOOL5241 wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Guys - I know some Zion members are here defending Shad - forgive 'em. This thread is coming off wrong in all directions. We of ZionTCD aren't happy about this any more then the imperfects are. This doesn't just undermine the Imperfects and Kain - it undermines us all. Who will make the next event if CCP will give credit and reward to someone else?
We're also still caught up we were even offered an event. We're like giggling children sometimes when handed candy with DUST logos :D
Know that ZionTCD does support you Kain and we're sorry for all this. Best post all day, +1 for trying to make the peace. Heck lets ask GM anybody to close this up and throw away the key. Shut up. We aren't here to make friends we are here for results. This will be a threadnaught and iwll contintue to post till ccp corrects this. Free Beers, I am not here to make enemies of every player in New Eden, I am satisfied by Kains post in this thread, he is cool with whats happened and working with CCP to correct the issue. I don't point the finger at Zion, I point a giant foam finger at CCP for this enormous mess. Zions players are coming to their leaders defense, same as you or I would if it was one of ours. Again I don't hate the player, I hate CCP. As somone to knows 100% whats going on here I can assure you its bullshit by ccp. I brought zionshad into this because kain wanted it to be community. There was not love/hate thing there. Zionshad and I bump heads but get along jsut fine. I come from eve we are all frenemies. the zion tcd scrubs can't defend the situations because its not zionshads fault its ccp's. So they come and talk **** to me about like it matters. trying to change subject to naming calling is trolling 101 and the zion scrubs are bad at it. beers > scrubs tcd again youre showing us how mature you are (and maybe your corp) by calling us scrubs and by thinking that youre better than us this "scrubs" are willing to show you that you arent better than we are |
Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.23 19:45:00 -
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EternalRMG wrote:OK lets stop corp Fight for one second and lets unite and yell at CCP
See my OP as I was very specific. If ccp came to me and said hey do this for I would be like sure thing ccp. |
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Twinkletoes Tittybottoms
Doomheim
8
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Posted - 2013.01.23 19:48:00 -
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Its it just me or is CCP getting a lot of flak from the community. First it was the SP cap and now this. Not a very good open beta huh? |
Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.23 19:48:00 -
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EternalRMG wrote: again youre showing us how mature you are (and maybe your corp) by calling us scrubs and by thinking that youre better than us this "scrubs" are willing to show you that you arent better than we are
a couple of things here
-i went after ccp, zion tcd players came after me and didn't address the issue.
-I am better than you.
-You are scrubs
prove me wrong (this is where i say corp battle but you guys never ever ever show up except if its to lose and exploit) |
DEADPOOL5241
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
233
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Posted - 2013.01.23 19:49:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:DEADPOOL5241 wrote:Free Beers wrote:DEADPOOL5241 wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Guys - I know some Zion members are here defending Shad - forgive 'em. This thread is coming off wrong in all directions. We of ZionTCD aren't happy about this any more then the imperfects are. This doesn't just undermine the Imperfects and Kain - it undermines us all. Who will make the next event if CCP will give credit and reward to someone else?
We're also still caught up we were even offered an event. We're like giggling children sometimes when handed candy with DUST logos :D
Know that ZionTCD does support you Kain and we're sorry for all this. Best post all day, +1 for trying to make the peace. Heck lets ask GM anybody to close this up and throw away the key. Shut up. We aren't here to make friends we are here for results. This will be a threadnaught and iwll contintue to post till ccp corrects this. Free Beers, I am not here to make enemies of every player in New Eden, I am satisfied by Kains post in this thread, he is cool with whats happened and working with CCP to correct the issue. I don't point the finger at Zion, I point a giant foam finger at CCP for this enormous mess. Zions players are coming to their leaders defense, same as you or I would if it was one of ours. Again I don't hate the player, I hate CCP. As somone to knows 100% whats going on here I can assure you its bullshit by ccp. I brought zionshad into this because kain wanted it to be community. There was not love/hate thing there. Zionshad and I bump heads but get along jsut fine. I come from eve we are all frenemies. the zion tcd scrubs can't defend the situations because its not zionshads fault its ccp's. So they come and talk **** to me about like it matters. trying to change subject to naming calling is trolling 101 and the zion scrubs are bad at it. beers > scrubs tcd
So can we end the forum war between Zion/IMP's and focus all of this energy on the party that deserves it, CCP
Again this is a huge PR mistake by a major game corp, If this were a RL business I would be using this to get what I wanted.
Or hold it as an ace in the sleeve when we get shat on by CCP again.. (magic 8 ball says " will happen") |
2-Ton Twenty-One
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
235
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Posted - 2013.01.23 19:50:00 -
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Twinkletoes Tittybottoms wrote:Its it just me or is CCP getting a lot of flak from the community. First it was the SP cap and now this. Not a very good open beta huh?
I feel differently about this, I feel this in a way is in a way part of the beta test.
CCP DEV's & GM's overstepped their bounds.
Now we should focus on using this controversy to accomplish something long term.
Clearly Dust needs CCP's internal affairs providing more oversight as they may as of yet not even be mandated to watch Dust as well as EVE. |
DEADPOOL5241
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.23 19:51:00 -
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"again youre showing us how mature you are (and maybe your corp) by calling us scrubs and by thinking that youre better than us this "scrubs" are willing to show you that you arent better than we are"
LOL he calls us, his corp mates all scrubs. Nothing personal scrub |
Tiel Syysch
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
634
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Posted - 2013.01.23 19:51:00 -
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DEADPOOL5241 wrote: Or hold it as an ace in the sleeve when we get shat on by CCP again.. (magic 8 ball says " will happen")
Still waiting on our match vs devs as tournament reward. |
Twinkletoes Tittybottoms
Doomheim
8
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Posted - 2013.01.23 19:52:00 -
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DEADPOOL5241 wrote:So can we end the forum war between Zion/IMP's and focus all of this energy on the party that deserves it, CCP Again this is a huge PR mistake by a major game corp, If this were a RL business I would be using this to get what I wanted. Or hold it as an ace in the sleeve when we get shat on by CCP again.. (magic 8 ball says " will happen")
You should be the PR head for the Imps. |
Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1041
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Posted - 2013.01.23 19:52:00 -
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Twinkletoes Tittybottoms wrote:Its it just me or is CCP getting a lot of flak from the community. First it was the SP cap and now this. Not a very good open beta huh?
you missed the 1 year of close beta party. It was better |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
234
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Posted - 2013.01.23 19:52:00 -
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DEADPOOL5241 wrote:"again youre showing us how mature you are (and maybe your corp) by calling us scrubs and by thinking that youre better than us this "scrubs" are willing to show you that you arent better than we are" LOL he calls us, his corp mates all scrubs. Nothing personal scrub its ok scrub
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SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.23 19:53:00 -
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We of ZionTCD have done nothing wrong here. Again, I apologize for our members abrupt and seemingly offensive comments towards this topic. It's rude considering the agenda here is a noble one.
So again - free beers, god I want a beer... - forgive my people. We may not need to love one another but I don't want this thread to devolve into too much trolling. This thread should champion Kain. |
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Free Tears
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
24
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Posted - 2013.01.23 19:54:00 -
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Can someone tell me what Zion TCD has done to prove they are not scrubs? They exploit, suck at game, and are terrible trolls. Sounds like scrubs to me |
Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.23 19:56:00 -
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Twinkletoes Tittybottoms wrote:DEADPOOL5241 wrote:So can we end the forum war between Zion/IMP's and focus all of this energy on the party that deserves it, CCP Again this is a huge PR mistake by a major game corp, If this were a RL business I would be using this to get what I wanted. Or hold it as an ace in the sleeve when we get shat on by CCP again.. (magic 8 ball says " will happen") You should be the PR head for the Imps.
We don't need nice guy **** posters to lead us in kum ba yah |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2013.01.23 19:56:00 -
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Freebeers here mate. |
Twinkletoes Tittybottoms
Doomheim
8
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Posted - 2013.01.23 19:56:00 -
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Free Beers wrote: you missed the 1 year of close beta party. It was better
Nah I didnt miss anything. My main has been through all builds. This is 2 for 2 this week. They say 3rd time is a charm.
Maybe I should start a poll on what would CCP do **** off the gaming community this week. |
Kain Spero
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
906
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Posted - 2013.01.23 19:57:00 -
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2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:Twinkletoes Tittybottoms wrote:Its it just me or is CCP getting a lot of flak from the community. First it was the SP cap and now this. Not a very good open beta huh? I feel differently about this, I feel this in a way is in a way part of the beta test. CCP DEV's & GM's overstepped their bounds. Now we should focus on using this controversy to accomplish something long term. Clearly Dust needs CCP's internal affairs providing more oversight as they may as of yet not even be mandated to watch Dust as well as EVE.
2-Ton Twenty, I don't think this is an IA situation. I really hope that it's just an honest mistake. For the Eve people around, you'll understand that this situation is a grain of sand compared to the BoB T2 BPO fiasco or the s*** that lead to Burn Jita. I really appreciate the support, but I don't think this really is an Internal Affairs level issue. |
SoLJae
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
351
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Posted - 2013.01.23 20:00:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:Twinkletoes Tittybottoms wrote:Its it just me or is CCP getting a lot of flak from the community. First it was the SP cap and now this. Not a very good open beta huh? I feel differently about this, I feel this in a way is in a way part of the beta test. CCP DEV's & GM's overstepped their bounds. Now we should focus on using this controversy to accomplish something long term. Clearly Dust needs CCP's internal affairs providing more oversight as they may as of yet not even be mandated to watch Dust as well as EVE. 2-Ton Twenty, I don't think this is an IA situation. I really hope that it's just an honest mistake. For the Eve people around, you'll understand that this situation is a grain of sand compared to the BoB T2 BPO fiasco or the s*** that lead to Burn Jita. I really appreciate the support, but I don't think this really is an Internal Affairs level issue.
Kain, I'm starting to believe that you and Deadpool are the ONLY sane and rational voices in the Imperfects!
You both should join Zion TCD. We're more your style...the Imps are beneath you. |
Twinkletoes Tittybottoms
Doomheim
8
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Posted - 2013.01.23 20:01:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:We don't need nice guy **** posters to lead us in kum ba yah
Hopefully he would be good in leading y'all in bunga bunga.
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2-Ton Twenty-One
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
235
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Posted - 2013.01.23 20:01:00 -
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I can fap to this..... |
Twinkletoes Tittybottoms
Doomheim
8
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Posted - 2013.01.23 20:02:00 -
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SoLJae wrote: Kain, I'm starting to believe that you are the ONLY sane and rational voices in the Imperfects!
You both should join Zion TCD. We're more your style...the Imps are beneath you.
Fixed! |
steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
338
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Posted - 2013.01.23 20:03:00 -
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I think all party's need to cool down and take 5 I do agree with IA as a method of finding out a clearer pic. But kain has given his view lets all take 5 this thread has achieved its goal if people want further discussion lets move it to new threads. |
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