or maybe the added PVE would attract and maintain a broader playerbase that PVPers would still be dropping into their missions to gank em...

This was in another thread but will post it here to. SInce it applies.




I see no reason not to mix PvP and PvE to varying degrees.

There could be PvE with no PvP allowed.

PvE with some PvP allowed.

And PvE with little or no restrictions on PvP.

I think the same sort of structure exists in EVE, where you can still interact with other players even while fighting against the NPC and AI controlled enemies.

Robot, I think I'm feeling the bread your slicing...Fun is good, Eve is good, Dust is good. :D

And I'm so very down for Dust 514 mercs running a mission, getting jumped by PvP proto-pirates and running for their life through Drones back to their dropship.

PvP shouldn't be restricted because I want to play pve only. Non consensual PvP is fun and adds danger to the game. We should not embrace the carebear mentality of pve only missions. The possibility of another group of mercs ruining your days should be a constant threat.

...lol, wut? XD

I mean, that was a great moment in the Keynote, but it wasn't PvE

u sure it wasn't a group of 16 CCP employees and a bunch of NPC characters and vehicles?

Not a 100%, but I'm almost positive that they were fighting against a ton of human players, themselves being completely loaded with dev-hacks ^^

But that would be where I want the AI in the future

I thought for a while on how sleepers could work in Dust but then I had an idea!

Follow me with this, What if it became a bording type mission? This would have to work in 2 parts a way for The Eve dude to get him in his ship and the dust person from the ship to he sleeper.

So in Eve there would be a new weapon called "Breaching Torp" or something along the same line as that. Of course there would be different types of them to allow more and more people to sit in them so you can run with your buddies! Wih the skill level having some small chance of causing of blwing up or something? Put in some kind of mini game to un jam a door IDK, just shooting out ideas!

But as the dust player you join some kind of Que or something to get you hook up with an Eve Dude or contract out the trip and get in there sit in the "Breaching torp" bahed in red lights as you fly towards the unknown.

Inside there are Robots drones W/e you want to loot/Salavge And then get out.

You would need a benifit to the eve player perhaps if the people they put in survive they get some kind of bonous loot and such!

Im at work at the moment and have a lot more to type but i doubt they would like that!

But let me know what you guys think!

The AI is frikin rtarded, did you watch any of the video?

Also the red squares near the vehicles nametag indicating they are npc and an attackable entity. Similar to eve npc destroyable objects.

So yes this is PvE jason

Just look at 17:30 the AI is just standing there doing nothing. This is where you want AI? Please watch the video again.

(after only reading OP)

@OP
umm... why are you not working with (or running for that matter) CCP?

I've read some good threads in my day (lol less then a year) but THIS is the thread of threads. +1 x 9,000!

I'll happily admit that I didn't care for the specifics of the video as they were from a video I watched over a year ago. While virtually every other video they've ever demoed and or featured with has been with real players, it looks like you're absolutely right and these are some sort of stagnant AI placeholder infantry...now if you really think this is where they are with their AI I'm not sure what else to say.........

...but hey, let's assume the best for you and take it as a given, eh?

That said, I would also state that my unwitting comment is rather half true. To the sense of the size and force of those AI (purely numbers and theoretical difficulty...assuming they are all some kind of sub-Dust Mercenary forces or Faction Forces) I could dig it...esspecially if it required timing and tactics of squads to survive it. However, I would obviously emphasis, again, that this is something that should be more of a challenge and an event.

Those were fun times watching the orbital drop for the first time and all that jazz. ^^

I wish that CCP would just ninja add the pve on a downtime and when the severs come back our districts are invested and a new battle type called "Control" where we fight front line battles against AI. After a weekend of that the instant battles would be available and all pub matches would have a chance of generating a drone squad at anytime during the battle.

I wrote a few ideas down in this thread basically covering some ways of making the warbarge relevant, having commanders, bringing in the other planets in Molden Heath in a sort of maurauding PvEvP mode. Included there is the idea of "campaigns", basically being a series of connected games (like a mission chain in EVE) to make battles feel like they have some relevance to New Eden, such as all taking place on the same planet, which would include varied PvE and PvP modes.