Well it hit my point exactly. If you aren't losing isk for losing, something is wrong.

I've purchased all the suits and if they change anything about them ill be pissed. They are fine, type one suits are far from game breaking.

Oh and it did have a cost 20 bucks yo

you still have to fit the suit with mods, guns, equipment, etc so its not completely free. just the suit is not going to cost you. i see nothing wrong with this.

Getting the thread back on track. The permanent suits need to have a cost per use.

There are now four permanent dropsuits that have standard dropsuit stats. These are currently very unbalancing for the game due to the fact there is no loss associated with their death.

I hope that soon these permanent suits will have a build cost to them. Either in isk or raw materials if manufacturing ever comes into the game. Obviously the cost should be equal or very slightly (5%) reduced from the standard suits they represent.

Sadly this would tick off a lot of people who just want a large advantage over other people but something needs to be done to maintain a balance within the game.

Note: I currently own all four of these suits (Two of the dragonfly). A Nerf to these suits effects me and the soul reason I bought the second Merc pack.. But it needs to be done.

I think even BPOs should require materials to manufacture. Maybe for factional warfare, the militia will pay for it, but in low/null, everything should have a cost.

Well lucky for the skinweave, raven, valor and sever suits!
Feel free to use militia suits that you have to replace with isk each time you die (if they give in to your request to make them BPC), I'll stick with my BPO suits for now

Everything Cross Atu said is not only correct, it's agreeable.

As a side note, I don't even see what the problem is. "Oh boy oh boy, these people are wearing T1 suits but don't have to restock their suits now. I wanna ***** moan and complain because I'm too greedy to spend real money to get it too."

Well boohoo effing hoo. These people are putting down REAL money, not monopoly money, not ISK, not SP. REAL MONEY, money that they could spend on a THOUSAND different REAL LIFE things that would be far more useful to them than what they spend on here for the AUR to buy an item.

If these suits weren't BPO, what in god's unholy blasphemous name would they have a reason to buy these suits with AUR they could spend on skill boosters or whatever else the eggheads at CCP come up with. Some nice color changes? I'd feel like a mentally ******** monkey if I wasted money to get a color change that I have to restock with AUR. Well, actually I am one cause I did spend money on an AUR suit that took too damned much to restock.

People who buy a BPO suit with real money shouldn't have that taken from them. They need a reason to bother putting down real money for something that's more than just a color change. So if you really wanna make them BPCs, then give them stats that are superior to non-AUR suits... Then have the game broken by that concept. Otherwise, quit complaining. These people aren't given a huge advantage over others, hell, it's basically going from militia(crappy) gear to standard(at least I won't die twenty times now) gear. It's not a huge improvement and won't break the game.

What will, is if they allow a person to spend AUR and get a BPO proto suit or any lvl dropship/HAV. THAT is a game breaker, this... This is nothing. This is just all of you whining because you don't want to spend AUR to get them.

isk is real money. right now 600 million isk is worth 20USD

For EVE players, as far as I know so far we Dust Bunnies can't transfer what we earn to that. Corps are going to be changing that I think, but from what I read. It's not that a DB can just transfer it over, he has to give his isk to his CORP director, and then that director can give it to an EVE CEO to change it to dollars.

I don't know about you, but i am NOT going to give the isk I earn in game to a corp director who's gonna screw me over. So until they implement a way for players to change their isk to dollars while playing Dust, which I hope they don't. It isn't real money for us Dust Bunnies. EVE is a completely different matter though, they can have their isk as real money and their CEOs who screw over their corp members and all that crap. We're mercs though, soldiers of fortune. At worst, we're security! We shouldn't have that option.

isk is real money. right now 600 million isk is worth 20USD

I agree with many of the points made. The balancing with isk, aur, plex and materials will be a difficult and time consuming project for CCP. My only addition would be to add my voice to an earlier post in the pages:

Step back from the game and see that CCP is a business. Businesses are in business for a profit, the fact that they get to make games is a perk. To turn a profit they will find ways to make money, distress a few players, but not to the point of breaking the game - a promise of CCP's was not a pay to win (cavity thukker aside). And that is still the way it remains. I get a permanent suit BPO because I gave the business money, in return i don't have to worry about Isk for militia level drop suits. I can use my ISK savings for other things. It is just another tactic - adapt to survive - sacrifice to get what you want.

when your suit gets trampled by a vk.0 come talk to us. There are better dropsuits than the BPOs that cost ISK and should stay that way. That way, BPOs can die risk free at the cost being at odds to those who expended an unreal yet more valuable asset in the game. Kind of weird but it works out.

So, return it to being the only gun worth using? I agree that it was over-nerfed the same way HAVs were at first, and needs a bit of a damage boost to bring it back in line with the other rifles, but it's E3 build stats were ridiculous.

Now what happens with they have vk0 BPOs? It could actually happen, especially since their are now very limited BO LAV BPOs.

The cost of the non-Merc Pack BPOs is prohibitive unless they're your primary AUR expenditure.

They AREN'T game-changing, and (again, with the exception of the Dragonfly) they still require the relevant SP investment.

There's NOTHING about ANY of the BPOs available that can't be done equally well, or better, with sensible use of ISK. There's nothing about any of the BPOs that gives you a real advantage in battle. They're STANDARD gear AT BEST, there are 2 tiers of equipment above them for EVERY role in the game.