Well said Dane

I wasn't sure how I would reply, but after thinking about it, here is my take.

So far, my favorite STB is DEADPOOL. He seems like a good guy and we have had some very respectful exchanges in the forums, and are looking forward to some healthy and fun exchanges on the battlefield. He vouched for quite a few STB's as good folk, but acknowledged that every group your size has some, what I will dub, 'characters'. Now, I have had some run-ins with Ted and Fork and Rage and others, and they have generally been pretty fun duals that usually end up eye-for-an-eye back and forth. Some banter back and forth in the forums, but usually, pretty respectable.

I think the real problem with STB's image is A LOT of baggage from previous lifetimes -- and a few folks that have not 'grown up' to the level of respect that the average EvE/Dust player expects. As it has been pointed out here (on the forums before), this is a bit of an older community, less bent on making other people feel bad, or showing up the other guy, and more of a community of folks that have been gaming in all kind of capacities for the past 20 - 30 years and really have found the pinnacle of gaming in the New Eden universe.

So, just don't be afraid to be self-policing when it comes to folks in the STB clan. If you lead by example and put the kibosh on posts and behavior that is unbecoming of a respectful and play-hard gamer, then I feel STB could be know in New Eden as a group to be reckoned with for the right reasons.

Good luck gents (and ladies I trust) and I look forward to every time I see "exemplary" STB'ers in the play list. Whether or not it is on my side or the opposite team, I always know it will be a good, hard-fought game!

- In Hoc

As for self-policing, I am not a fan of the idea. While I don't always agree with the way some of us present ideas, I will always agree they have the freedom to say what they want. They play the game, same as you and I. So what right do I have to tell someone not to post on the forums, because what they posted. While we are taking steps to make a better impression with the community, I can not stop any player from posting what they feel is worthy of your views.

Again TY for your support of what I am doing, it gives me more motivation to continue to help the community. If you have some suggestions for my future threads, please feel free to post and I will work with you on ideas.

Cheers Dane, KCCO as always!!
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I'm still waiting for an email to give you my opinion.... should i wait for hell to freeze over first?

I think half the problem was that people only see what they wanted to see, they would read a forum post and already have a pre-concieved notion that STB is a bunch of d bags because the last 3 posts said so. I read one forum post about them and went hey they sound pretty good so i'll contact them, checked it out and everyone is friendly and always just wanting to run together and play the game. I can assure you no one goes "BAHAHA lets drive tanks and f*ck with people"

STB is chill and cool and i think unless you hop in a game with us and TALK to us then you dont have a complete opinion.

I'm still waiting for an email to give you my opinion.... should i wait for hell to freeze over first?

i sent it hours ago

Dont double post, it's bad etiquette, as are using 5 year old cookie and cake memes.

This is your biggest problem of all STB, Your horrible, horrible forum posting along with the stupid names, Why is STB needed in your tags? It will be on your corp ticker next build. Why is EV needed? They are nobody and when they failcascade you'll be stuck with a reminder of EV in your user name for the rest of your Dust career, far after EV have been forgotten about and people will just think it's some stupid random letters on the end of your user name.


The forum chest beating is tolerated and expected so it hardly effects your image, you just need to get better at it and how you do it need's to improve.

Don't let idiots post on the forums unless it's well known that all STB members DO NOT speak for STB and are only voicing their own opinions so they get ridiculed personally and not the whole corp is looked down on. Have a small, core group of people who CAN voice STB's opinions on things formally on the forums but make sure they are educated and can spell, someone like Deadpool who is respected and knows how to write, not someone like the mongaloid 14 year old caffeine addict that posted above me.

Don't post drunk, Slosh OPs are normal for EVE and will be for Dust, but don't forum post, you'll dig yourself a hole every single time and look like a ******* muppet the following day. Don't take the bait when you get flamed on the forums, it will generate you much, much more hatred because you're ignoring the idiots which gives you better coverage in new eden and more people complain about you, but you keep your respect and dignity in tact by not getting into flame wars, by all means, troll them and make them look even more stupid than they already are, but you all need to learn to troll correctly first.

i've got no emails.

[email protected]
[email protected]

Should both work.

sent you an email

Dont double post, it's bad etiquette, as are using 5 year old cookie and cake memes.

This is your biggest problem of all STB, Your horrible, horrible forum posting along with the stupid names, Why is STB needed in your tags? It will be on your corp ticker next build. Why is EV needed? They are nobody and when they failcascade you'll be stuck with a reminder of EV in your user name for the rest of your Dust career, far after EV have been forgotten about and people will just think it's some stupid random letters on the end of your user name.


The forum chest beating is tolerated and expected so it hardly effects your image, you just need to get better at it and how you do it need's to improve.

Don't let idiots post on the forums unless it's well known that all STB members DO NOT speak for STB and are only voicing their own opinions so they get ridiculed personally and not the whole corp is looked down on. Have a small, core group of people who CAN voice STB's opinions on things formally on the forums but make sure they are educated and can spell, someone like Deadpool who is respected and knows how to write, not someone like the mongaloid 14 year old caffeine addict that posted above me.

Don't post drunk, Slosh OPs are normal for EVE and will be for Dust, but don't forum post, you'll dig yourself a hole every single time and look like a ******* muppet the following day. Don't take the bait when you get flamed on the forums, it will generate you much, much more hatred because you're ignoring the idiots which gives you better coverage in new eden and more people complain about you, but you keep your respect and dignity in tact by not getting into flame wars, by all means, troll them and make them look even more stupid than they already are, but you all need to learn to troll correctly first.

Going from your post, Deadpool, it appears to me that you and STB are under the assumption that you can be a serious, big name corp in New Eden and still operate like any other small time clan from every other FPS.
If that's so it'll be interesting to see your reaction to the new reality you've placed yourselves in.

Going from your post, Deadpool, it appears to me that you and STB are under the assumption that you can be a serious, big name corp in New Eden and still operate like any other small time clan from every other FPS. If that's so it'll be interesting to see your reaction to the new reality you've placed yourselves in.

Indeed,


Deadpool, I know it's a game, but this thread is about feedback and advice to STB, that's what i was giving. I fail to see your issue?

Can you describe this new reality that I am not aware of? I just need clarification on this before I comment. I don't want to seem ignorant but I am unaware of what you are getting at.

This is not my first MMO, this is not my first clan/corp/league. I have played and worked for small leagues in DCUO with 40 players to having my own 200+ squad in Angels of Death (AoD) and working my way up through a league with 10,000 members in it. I see no difference in that to New Eden.

We at STB are becoming a large family.

@Cerebral Wolf Jr,

I get what you're saying, my apologies if I did not clearly respond to your post. While I agree with you, that certain players should not say certain things on these forums as it comes across badly for STB or any corp for that matter. But my point Cerebral, was that I can not tell a player not to post. I am not an officer of STB, I am not Quickgloves and a leader of my corp.

May I ask to whom you are referring to at STB that makes posts that are not showing us off in a good way?

What I can do though, is speak to those players and have an open discussion with them on forums posting and maybe I can help them. Again I want to encourage players to post. I want more and more players to post in the forums. But with that I must take the good and the bad. Not everything even I say, is always good. But I try and I know they are all trying as well.

I have no issue, I am simply pointing out that this is game, games are meant to be fun. So no matter the politics or what ever that New Eden will present in the coming months and years that I and STB play Dust, I will always see this as just a game to make me happy.

Ty, I know your just trying to be helpful in your own way. So +1 from me for being honest and civil about this.

You seem to think EVE/Dust Corporations are just the kind of thing where a bunch of guys who like playing together do whatever they feel like with no real authority coming from the leaders and officers. EVE and Dust corporations rely upon a largely strict hierarchy, this is why most serious corporations are structured more like a corporate bureaucracy or in the case of the Goons a dictatorship rather than a happy go-lucky group of casuals mucking about.

You seem to think EVE/Dust Corporations are just the kind of thing where a bunch of guys who like playing together do whatever they feel like with no real authority coming from the leaders and officers. EVE and Dust corporations rely upon a largely strict hierarchy, this is why most serious corporations are structured more like a corporate bureaucracy or in the case of the Goons a dictatorship rather than a happy go-lucky group of casuals mucking about.



Like I said, you seem to be under the illusion that EVE corps and the politicking that goes on inside and between them is like any other MMO or FPS out there. This is not the case unless you're happy sitting in your own corner being nobody of importance.



That's awesome. Good for you, unfortunately other corporations who are able to organize better by having an actual hierarchy will take advantage of your lack of one.