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Reefersmokintaz
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.16 16:58:00 -
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I do not hate nor love STB. All I have to say is you guys may be the "best" in beta NOW...Just wait for the game to launch and other good players start to play. If Goons/TEST carry over to Dust, ppl will forget about STB IMO. Dust already has a coalition set up and waiting to execute.... |
STB-Quickgloves EV
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
527
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Posted - 2012.09.16 19:53:00 -
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seeems alot of CFC guys ahve an intrest her i will b talking to cerebal tongiht or tommorrow the rest of you should contact me as well privatly |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.09.16 23:20:00 -
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There's way more CFC guys here than i even know about, they keep popping up outta the woodwork on a daily basis. |
Cortez The Killer
Immobile Infantry
188
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Posted - 2012.09.16 23:31:00 -
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We're everywhere... |
Avenger 245
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
477
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Posted - 2012.09.17 15:59:00 -
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What you expect goonswarm may be eve only corp, but its player base comes from somethingawful forums they got 150k people it a safe bet that atleast 1 on them got a hold of beta key.
Not to mention cfc is the only eve corp with the common sense to branch out side of thiee spaceship game, a majority of nullsec corps and alliances are pc players though and though, and A. Suck at fps on consoles or B. Don't play fps on consoles or C. Just don't care |
EnIgMa99
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
219
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Posted - 2012.09.17 16:20:00 -
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STB-Quickgloves EV wrote:Ok, so here it is.
Obvisouly people dont like STB.
we have lived with this stigmata since MAG
I want to curb it.
I am not a dictator, a piece of watever or anything more than a diehard gamer an low end game programer
I love dust i love STB an i love MAG
I hold the most public page of STb an want feedback here to help curb the negative image we hold
STB is a large fun group that try to win at any cost, if you hate on that then we can never b friends but if you read this an know i am bieng sincere i hope to meet with Corp leaders an discuss a bright futuer in Dust were STb isnt the target of annomsity an MAG rascisim
Dev's i understand if you lock this thread, but as one of the larger Dust corps an ur piggy banks i implore you to leave it here in generla discussion until somone breaks your rules. an hence its a general discussion forum i have not broken any yet an this thread is for helping STB move foprward in your baby an awsome world in NEw eden
STB is cool |
EnIgMa99
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
219
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Posted - 2012.09.17 16:21:00 -
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843-Bob365421 EV wrote:Can't lie they are great to play with. U can't go 10 min without laughng at something. Lol Or yell for joy. They r fun to play with and know there stuff. But as we all know i like 843 better. :) THE CAKE IS A LIE I didn't read page 2 or 3 so i hope i didn't miss anything. Lol
agreed |
A-P-P
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
85
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Posted - 2012.09.17 17:30:00 -
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Maybe you shouldn't be taking jabs at other corps coming from MAG while you are trying to diplomatic and remove stigmas that derived from it. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.09.17 17:52:00 -
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So where's this email? |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.09.17 17:55:00 -
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I hate all these ******** threads where bad players and bad clans talk shite |
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Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.09.17 18:09:00 -
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If you wish to improve the image of STB, run solo. Mercenary company for hire. Highest bidder wins. However, never break contract for ISK or such as that ruins your integrity. When we can go to 0.0 then look at alliances. You may find STB have some lucrative offers. But until you start a bidding war for your services, you don't know what you'll get.
I'm sure the goons can match/double whatever offer you are given by other corps anyway. |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.09.17 18:13:00 -
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TBH may be it's because i'm old but I don't even know who you are and being it's just a game why should I hate or dislike ? |
EriktheHeartless
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
168
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Posted - 2012.09.17 18:15:00 -
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i like 99% of stb.i have played with them for years now and have many in my and my alt's friend's lists.with that being said the 1% of stb that is garbage is YOU quick you belittle your own clan mates skills during games and try and play it off as "oh i was drunk" or "oh i was frustrated" your an illiterate jack-kitten. your people talk like your god when your around but when you leave the group they aknowledge your a dumb-kitten and they just deal with you because your like that jerkball cousin.you know the one everyone has that acts like a jerk treats people badly but you make the excuse"he's family""he's a jerk but he is our jerk" you want to improve stb's standing in this game drop your leasership and defer to someone who isnt a egotistical moron. i dont care if you like this post because nobody likes the truth. my nominee for your replacement would be ted.he has more leadership in his medkit than you have in your whole tamsen. |
Adducere Aetheris
8
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Posted - 2012.09.17 18:23:00 -
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The only problem I can find with STB is the name. Every time I see five guys running around my mind clicks, 'nice group of red dots, better avoid'. I see a group of STBs and my mind clicks, 'obnoxious gang of gankers and exploiters'. Not that that's true mind you...all the time at least.
The caps locked acronym ahead of _ filled names just inspires hate when I see ya guys running around. When your on my team I figure you'll go play on your own and we might stand a better chance of winning. When I see just one if you I kinda tear up a little for how lonely he must be.
All in all I still shoot you, run from you, or follow you around wagging my tail and at the end of the game you hold no significant place in my mind. I just wonder why you need to draw such attention to your actions + or - with an obnoxious tag.
Drop the tags and that will eliminate the show boating image. Trust your corp stats whe we get them and let those speak for your team. There's 5 cents and ye can keep da change |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.09.17 18:42:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:I hate all these ******** threads where bad players and bad clans talk shite
Will only get worse when the main EVE-O idiots are around and the forums are merged.
I suggest you find somewhere else to post if it bothers you that much because it's actually pretty good at the moment and will get a hell of a lot worse.
Over 63% of the threads on the first 2 pages on in COAD (Part of the EVE forums) are people bitching about Goonwaffe/Test. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.09.17 18:45:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:I hate all these ******** threads where bad players and bad clans talk shite Will only get worse when the main EVE-O idiots are around and the forums are merged. I suggest you find somewhere else to post if it bothers you that much because it's actually pretty good at the moment and will get a hell of a lot worse. Over 63% of the threads on the first 2 pages on in COAD (Part of the EVE forums) are people bitching about Goonwaffe/Test.
EVE-O forums aint too bad for me since EVE is completely different and 'winning' can be measured in a hell of a lot more ways than in DUST currently
But console forums are always much much worse |
Adducere Aetheris
8
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Posted - 2012.09.17 19:20:00 -
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There is a vast amount of trash talking among console players. Never understood why. Seems rediculous most of the time.
Just male back slapping bravado games.
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Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.09.17 21:30:00 -
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Adducere Aetheris wrote:There is a vast amount of trash talking among console players. Never understood why. Seems rediculous most of the time.
Just male back slapping bravado games.
No, it's mainly due to the age of your average consoles FPS multiplayer gamer. I.E about 16. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED
TACNET
549
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Posted - 2012.09.17 21:57:00 -
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if you're hated or despised you're doing something right IMO.. i dont hoar tanks but i will hoar a dropship on a rooftop when a bunch of ppl are running around in broken scout suits why should i care WTF they think? why should i care about what 24 militia snipers in the mountain think? the answer is i dont. |
STB-poopchucker9900 EV
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
33
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Posted - 2012.09.17 23:05:00 -
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i have played with STB over 2 yrs now and i can vouch that they improved my gun game 100%.
I think one thing that will help build us is lets lose the tanks,dropships for an entire week and show people that we can run and gun.
I think that no one will debate the fact that if the game is going to give us the tools to succeed we would be stupid not to use them...ie the tank
Well there is a fine line between using OP tools and using gliches to farm SP and ISK which I will publically annouce we are against.
I think that if people see mass groups/squads of us rolling around using teamwork to take out mercs and tanks then they might have a new found respect for our play style.
just a thought
see you all in battle |
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Beld Errmon
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
479
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Posted - 2012.09.17 23:19:00 -
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Being an AU player i rarely encounter STB in game, few times i have they've either been terrible on foot or nasty in tanks (two different sets of players) the reason i dislike STB, the constant threads that I don't believe were made by random ppl, I think you've got some clever PR people who know any advertising is good, and generally the tone of your players when posting on the forums has been highly combative and trollish.
But i really can't throw stones in regards to being rude and trollish lately, I've been far to much of a troll rubbing tankers faces in the nerf, that being said if you make an effort to get your players to go out of their way to be nice on the forums while making their points your PR will no doubt improve. |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
583
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Posted - 2012.09.17 23:59:00 -
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Well I don't particularly dislike STB, I just find them mildly annoying and the community's opinion of them annoying.
I think when I drop into a game and I see 4-6 tanks on the field and most of them have an STB driver, I have to roll my eyes. Prior to the hotfix tanks were rather broken, and although I understand that fielding that many tanks is just a part of emergent gameplay, it's still a pretty dickish and cheap move. I know you'll argue that you only have a couple dedicated tank pilots, but everyone knows that they've seen more than 2 of you piloting tanks at once in a battle. I drove HAVs for a while this build as well, but when my lone, well fit tank gets its ass kicked because it gets attacked by 3-4 crappy tanks all at once...it's annoying, and caused me to just move to infantry where I actually fared a lot better.
Honestly the more annoying part is people always freaking out "OMG ITS STB", but with all due respect I've never really been all that impressed with the skill level and ability of those within your group. I'll admit you have a couple truly talented players, but overall you guys are pretty meh. I played against you guys in MAG as well as here in Dust countless times, and its not that you're bad players, just very average. Even so a group of average players with some form of coordination are effective, which is probably why people probably think you guys are so fantastic.
Like I said, I don't mean any offense, and I would not group you quite on the level of a zerg-clan like KEQ was back in the day, but you guys are just average overall. No hate here, but your tactics have made me not particularly like you guys either...I suppose I value quality over quantity, but that's just me. |
SWEETY muffin CAKES
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
42
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Posted - 2012.09.18 14:00:00 -
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I would like to add something about Elitism.
The Entropy Virus will infect anyone and everyone. It is an all inclusive community. If you are looking to play with top tier players, we have some. But we also do not limit ourselves, or pigeon hole ourselves into only one avenue. To conquer DUST, you need a game plan to make use of every tool. Some smart dude once said:
"No ship too small"
Well, I learned from that and my own spin is:
"No tool unused"
Everyone has a role to play. Even if it is just being a ****** scrub, that makes the team laugh, so that your elite players have fun, logging on, hour after hour, instead of getting frustrated over a loss, or boredom.
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Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.09.18 14:04:00 -
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Seriously dude. I didnt read any reaction about this topic.
But trash talk is part of videogames. You tend to do the best scores ? You'll get trash no matter you do\say.
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SWEETY muffin CAKES
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
42
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Posted - 2012.09.18 14:07:00 -
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Also concerning tanks:
The guys you see rolling the big heavy tanks game in game out... Lurch, Ted and the gang.... They said right from the beginning that they were going to be dedicated tank drivers. Don't believe me? I have posts about Lurch organizing an all tank division. That's their job, and why the EV is such an awesome organization. We have people in a vent chat everyday teaching the new recruits how it's done.
ITs called specialization, and creating experts in the field.
You laugh while they perfect their skills as tank drivers, and call them noob stomping.
We look at it as, running experts with tanks, teaching the new guys how to maximize the tanks. Because when we have 5-10 thousand players in the Entropy Virus... we are going to use those experts to teach the kiddies how to roll.
In the end, even if STB was being cocky.... or noob stomping....
Welcome to the World of New Eden.
where you gotta win however you have to. Anyone that thinks that making use of an advantage is weak, is going to get a lot of flak for when he loses, and it was in his power to win.
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Beyliss Rokon
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2012.09.18 14:10:00 -
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Who thinks these forums need spell chek? |
Jariel Manton
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
210
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Posted - 2012.09.18 14:11:00 -
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I think half the problem was that people only see what they wanted to see, they would read a forum post and already have a pre-concieved notion that STB is a bunch of d bags because the last 3 posts said so. I read one forum post about them and went hey they sound pretty good so i'll contact them, checked it out and everyone is friendly and always just wanting to run together and play the game. I can assure you no one goes "BAHAHA lets drive tanks and f*ck with people"
STB is chill and cool and i think unless you hop in a game with us and TALK to us then you dont have a complete opinion. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.09.18 14:35:00 -
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SWEETY muffin CAKES wrote:Also concerning tanks:
The guys you see rolling the big heavy tanks game in game out... Lurch, Ted and the gang.... They said right from the beginning that they were going to be dedicated tank drivers. Don't believe me? I have posts about Lurch organizing an all tank division. That's their job, and why the EV is such an awesome organization. We have people in a vent chat everyday teaching the new recruits how it's done.
ITs called specialization, and creating experts in the field.
You laugh while they perfect their skills as tank drivers, and call them noob stomping.
We look at it as, running experts with tanks, teaching the new guys how to maximize the tanks. Because when we have 5-10 thousand players in the Entropy Virus... we are going to use those experts to teach the kiddies how to roll.
In the end, even if STB was being cocky.... or noob stomping....
Welcome to the World of New Eden.
where you gotta win however you have to. Anyone that thinks that making use of an advantage is weak, is going to get a lot of flak for when he loses, and it was in his power to win.
You're never, ever going to have 5 to 10 THOUSAND people in EV. |
Dane Stark
Golgotha Group
178
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Posted - 2012.09.18 16:34:00 -
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I wasn't sure how I would reply, but after thinking about it, here is my take.
So far, my favorite STB is DEADPOOL. He seems like a good guy and we have had some very respectful exchanges in the forums, and are looking forward to some healthy and fun exchanges on the battlefield. He vouched for quite a few STB's as good folk, but acknowledged that every group your size has some, what I will dub, 'characters'. Now, I have had some run-ins with Ted and Fork and Rage and others, and they have generally been pretty fun duals that usually end up eye-for-an-eye back and forth. Some banter back and forth in the forums, but usually, pretty respectable.
I think the real problem with STB's image is A LOT of baggage from previous lifetimes -- and a few folks that have not 'grown up' to the level of respect that the average EvE/Dust player expects. As it has been pointed out here (on the forums before), this is a bit of an older community, less bent on making other people feel bad, or showing up the other guy, and more of a community of folks that have been gaming in all kind of capacities for the past 20 - 30 years and really have found the pinnacle of gaming in the New Eden universe.
So, just don't be afraid to be self-policing when it comes to folks in the STB clan. If you lead by example and put the kibosh on posts and behavior that is unbecoming of a respectful and play-hard gamer, then I feel STB could be know in New Eden as a group to be reckoned with for the right reasons.
Good luck gents (and ladies I trust) and I look forward to every time I see "exemplary" STB'ers in the play list. Whether or not it is on my side or the opposite team, I always know it will be a good, hard-fought game!
- In Hoc |
Adducere Aetheris
8
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Posted - 2012.09.18 16:53:00 -
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Well said Dane |
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