Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Deadpool,
This is turning into a really good thread and a very good discussion that's touching on things much deeper than just STB and i think it's safe to say we'll all take away things from this, it's nice to have a conversation without it turning into a flamefest.
I do think STB has a Hierarchy, in fact i know a lot more of STB and EV that 99% of the forum users here and possibly even more than some STB/EV members due to the resources we have available and i did touch on this with Quickgloves earlier to give him a little insight into what he's going to have to start and consider when i emailed him earlier.
I don't think the BF3, CoD and Halo players will play Dust the same way as we will at all, but at the same time i think they won't get the same forum coverage or even bother with the meta gaming and the forum posting so it's kinda a moot point there suggesting that their style of play will be a regular part of the Dust community. The players who are reading this and the players who are interested in this sort of thing are the exact people what will make a difference and will be a part of the community.
I know Quickgloves is a good guy, I've been chatting to him via Email and I've seen a lot of his posts on the forums, I'm not criticizing anything about him at all, i like him and he is exactly the sort of player that's going to make an impact here. I was just commenting on how his posts could come over and that a little extra effort here and there would make a huge impact on his and STB's reputation. Goons can be serious too sometimes and i am actually trying to help and not troll here. :D
I do think you being PR was a great call by STB and you've already done a great deal to improve the image, this thread alone has done you a massive amount of good as it's shown you're all willing to learn and take a little constructive criticism and that's something to be respected.
Ok at work still and very little time this afternoon to do responses, so if I don't get back to you guys Im not ignoring you.
Yes, this has been a great conversation today, again to both of you I say TY TY
Between you and me, I wondered where some of the ideas for the changes we are doing were coming from. So if you and Quick are responsible then I thank you again for reaching out to us at STB. Thats just really cool of you IMO.
Agreed a majority of players will never step into the meta game, some just can't because they are Console players and don't have PC's or web access like you and the rest of us do. Its going to be rough for them and actually that will be my next thread, ways to help smaller corps and players get into meta game and the rest of Dust on New Eden. I may need your help in that for ideas, if you don't mind. I also agree we the beta forum posters are the ones that will influence the rest of New Eden better then a very large chunk of the players.
Quick is a great guy, he is the backbone of STB and we would follow that bastard into hell if it meant we got some kills along the way. He will have an impact on this community and threads like this are a prime example of just that. I think he is seeing, heck we all are seeing the difference between here and MAG/DCUO/COD/BF3 and we will have to change to get what we want out of New Eden or New Eden won't work with us. We are joining their game, but in a unique way.
Thanks, I appreciate that very much. But there is others who will be doing the same work if not more and better. But they will make themselves known in the next few weeks. Again thanks to suggestions like yours and others we are working on a few things in house to change from MAG to Dust and all that goes with that change.
In our ventrillo weekly meetings, It maybe time for me to finally speak. I have let Quick and Hivemind do all the talking, while I sit back and listen. I needed to know more before I spoke up to the group. But now, I know what I need to do and with some more discussions with good folks like you and then talking to my corp, I'm sure things will change for the better.
STB is #10 in the Corp list. Good, that gives me motivation to get to #1. That gives me something to work towards with STB.
Please add me to your PSN if you would like. Deadpool5241 and we can group up sometime and kill some players or just sit back and chat about everything. I look forward to speaking to you.
Well back to work, I have to continue my daily fight against the IRS for my clients and I have spent to much of this day working on STB.