Going back to my quick list of issues,

# 5 I think was damage increased by gun stats.
- Personally I think that increasing material stats such as damage a bullet does per shot is bad in an FPS game. Same with fire rate in automatic weapons or such. Base gun stats should be pretty similar between a new player and an old player, the old players gun shouldn't somehow be more damaging that the new players because he is "skilled" at it.

Things such as bein certified to operate a weapon, compensate for recoil, hold steady to reduce barrel wander, reload faster, swap faster, fire steady for a longer time, and other more physically related skills make sense. But no amount of training is going to make a gun hit harder.

On the #7 movement issue, I believe the game should be faster as in movement speed. Initially I wanted the game slowed down, but I have decided otherwise since E3 build. The game benefits from faster movement. Not drastically faster, just a buff combined with fixed hit detection to help keep scouts from being OP again.
Also I believe that stamina could use a buff, you do so much running it takes forever on foot, and vehicles are too expensive to use as a regular infantry. The militia LAV is also tin foil armor, so it dies really fast too.

As for your answers to my other issues, they have been "fixing" hit detection for 3 builds now. I will believe it when I see it.

See i played alot of mmorpgs and the higher lvl u r the more awesome u r i like this concept i think they had it right before now with the changing the health so everyone is equal is like this game is going backwards

I approve of skills that determine how well u do in battle and i never want that changed or i might as well go back to -imput name of popular shooter here-

There is also the zoning potnetial, those who have a gun to sell will not hang out in low paying high sec matches.

They will if there's nothing else for them to do.....


Nullsec corps are not always fighting for Sov so wont always have contracts up. They may go to Highsec fights just to shoot fish in a barrel, i know us goons would, just to troll and **** people off.

They have said skills will have more of an impact than they currently do on passive bonus's during the next build and i think that's going to change things again when people realise their fittings are what makes them surive, not their SP or choice of actual dropsuit.

It's all about the fittings.

The guy up there posted about being a bad ass the more you play, that's fine and good, but you still need to be able to die to someone below you or Dust will suffer the same fate of MAG and get a good, solid, loyal fanbase but it won't get any new blood because they won't be able to compete with older corps.

Didn't read the whole post so I'm sorry if this is a repeat. What about being able to compare items in the store simultaneously before purchase? It would make it a bit easier to choose an effective path for a build.

Oh come'on!
More bonuses for stats, why?
Also skills give bonuses without trade-off: welcome cheapness.
Really this is a FPS player's skills should be the only hings that matter in a FPS not in-game stats.

Why newcomers must be disadvantaged so much simply because they are new and don't have access to the enough in-game skills.

6. Tanks > infantry

NO ****. They're tanks. Clearly another lone-wolf who can't stand the thought of someone he can't drop in one shot with his "skillz". It's a bloody tank. If you aren't killing it, it means your team isn't doing enough to surround and hammer it. Yes, one of the factors is that the things can just run away, but I think your complaints are going to vanish into thin air when the Web mines come out and suddenly that tank is standing still, just melting under your swarm launchers and AV nades. Tanks seem OP because we don't have all the tools to counter them yet. This is exactly why they said their focus was on deploying content and not bug fixing and balance right now, because you need to have all the assets in place before you can really work out how they balance against each other.

I mean, everyone loves to say this isn't a Beta because "it isn't like (x) multiplayer beta I played". Well, to use that as an example, they talk about their experience with such "Betas" being indicative of CCP not caring about gameplay because in those they were re-adjusting mechanics from community feedback. The thing is, those were pretty much finished products, and with all the tools in play, they could work on balance without the worry of introducing something later that broke the whole system. Anyone here play the Starhawk closed beta?

EDIT: This is now my favorite thread. The more I read through it, the more awesome it got. We need more threads like this that actually discuss perceived issues into a relate-able format. Good thread, Iron.

This is a true testamenant to how out of touch the IRC channel truly is with what FPS gamers want. Not even a single mention of RBS, Recoil, Weapon Mechanics, or New Assault Rifles & Attachements.

Fact is, the vast majority of PS3 players won't go near that channel b/c the fact you even have to memorize commands to log in is a wall no one wants to deal with.

Forgive my ignorance but RBS?

Random Bullet Spread

Thought it was rear break system. shows you what I know.

Well as far as I know its not a cookie cutter pattern at least, I shot a shotgun at a wall and watched the spread patter and its very inconsistent unlike oh say halo 1 was.

As for RBS being talked about its like rarely if ever discussed its always hit detection no scoping and aim bots and shooting though walls.

Basically, devs use it as a replacement for weapon recoil. Instead of adding considerable recoil to a gun, where as you hold down automatic fire, and the longer you hold down the trigger, the more the gun bounces all over the screen (although usually upward)

Instead of this, RBS make your first round or first couple rounds (depending on how dev programs it) go on target. However the more you hold down trigger, the more the subsequent "bullets" RANDOMLY spread away from center/cross hairs....this method is generally frowned upon by FPSers because even though your crosshairs are on target, the bullets randomly go elesewhere. Recoil is preferred because you KNOW your aim is off, because your crosshairs actually travel off target. You can visually see, and adjust.

I brought up that the CRU had areas of differing efficiency ratings for some reason, they're looking into it.



They're not only listening to us. Our voices aren't shaping how the game is getting designed any more than yours are. They read every post on the forums. But, we've been able to have the opportunity to get some direct answers and provide feedback. You would get the same result with creating your own bug or feedback thread, we just get human interaction and an opportunity to clarify right away if they go "wait, what?"

This is why it's better to do short, frequent bursts or 3 round bursts than to just "let `er rip", in real life as well as here. Plus it's a great way to conserve ammunition, sometimes I even prefer the semi-auto 'tactical' ( single shot), especially when I'm using a logi dropsuit without a sidearm.