First I am talking about making specific polls/surveys, asking specific question on specific themes.
Second: many FPS players know what they like and what makes a FPS feel good under the thumbs.

Me and a lot of guys here have been saying from months that the gamepaly is poor and that needs to be improved completely.
I personally gave feedback on everything gameplay related, form animations, to sounds, to stats, etc...
Our opinions were discarded because, hell, we have not the right credentials: we are just a normal FPS players, some with decades of experience in FPS...we are not EVE players.
CCP don't believe us, don't trust our judgment, so be it: it will have to face the consequences of this.

Dust is getting a lot of bad publicity form PS+ players and journalist that say the same things we said for months: I see a link between this and CCP not listening to people that have played FPS for decades.

We don't have credential but we know what we are talking about.
Claiming we don't understand what a good FPS is about and ignore us already did a lot of damage.
Do you want more?

anyways more updates and chances are thats it becuas ccp wolfman began hunting down the swarm launcher misbehavior and we're trying to walk him step by step though replicating the misbehaving missile behavior.

[quoteThis is ridiculous. Oh poor childeren, is IRC too hard? Are words like "join" and "leave" too difficult to comprehend? The only thing barring you from the IRC channel is your own laziness or stupidity.

Simple reasoning is that most forum readers can act like 3 year olds (such as the one question of why the av nerf had ot happen was very rudely asked) and thus any developer post made is treated like prohpecy and people get very very upset when miracles dont happen.

Which is another reason why I paraphrased everything they said. if something doenst happen. well you have to skin me first.

This is ridiculous. Oh poor childeren, is IRC too hard? Are words like "join" and "leave" too difficult to comprehend? The only thing barring you from the IRC channel is your own laziness or stupidity.

[question] any chance of giving Mass Drivers a better aiming reticule?... like one that shows where the grenade will land +/-10%... something that moves along the ground like a small targeting square, that can follow terrain elevation, allowing for less "intuitive" use of the Mass Driver.

Fact is, the vast majority of PS3 players won't go near that channel b/c the fact you even have to memorize commands to log in is a wall no one wants to deal with.[/quote

This is ridiculous. Oh poor childeren, is IRC too hard? Are words like "join" and "leave" too difficult to comprehend? The only thing barring you from the IRC channel is your own laziness or stupidity.

Laziness is why most people buy a PS3 over going into pc gaming, the IRC is one extra thing they have to go get and the casual gamer isnt going to sit with a laptop right next to him while playing PS3. It doesnt make sense to some people due to the fact they arent used to having to look up fits/gear/patch notes. Some of us think its second nature to always have access to the internet while playing video games but even in this digital age most casual gamers have their PS3 and computers in different rooms; the PS3 is generally thought of as an entertainment tool while the PC is an important information collection/storage device.

I used to check on the IRC too but honestly I dont have the time to dedicate to squad up, deal with crash/bugs on multiple machines, or just hang out on a forum.

Multiple Stage Maps/Game Modes
'Yes they're comming back but not skirmish mode the skirmish fell apart with the overly favoring the defenders.'

What does this mean? They're not actually getting rid of skirmish are they or am I reading that wrong?

The skirmish mode with multiple stages didnt work,

Skirmish mode we have now is probably going to stay.

This would be something more along the lines of a new game mode.

They just basically said that the old multiple stage skirmished maped heavily favored the denfenders and would have eventually resulted in redlining too often.

It should be Forums > IRC

There should be polls, we shouldn't have to run and dig for info, we shouldn't get it secondhand.

If these forums have a point at all, then make them the focus.

We need more communication from CCP directly.

I don't have time to sit in IRC all day, my computers in another room.

Honestly I could care less about IRC and I guarentee thr same for most other testers. Half probably don't rven come on these forums.

Anyone saying otherwise is making excuses or just really wants it to be the way they want it to br, not the most logical or easy to use way.

/discussion

Also Templar Two I agree on all of your points. +1

Fair enough I normally try not to be so rude around here, but seems plain silly to complain about a thing simply because you can't be bothered to put forth any effort. If you can't see an inherit benefit to having real time communication when say, trying to identify network issues or anything else really. I'll just stop typing now.

This is a true testamenant to how out of touch the IRC channel truly is with what FPS gamers want. Not even a single mention of RBS, Recoil, Weapon Mechanics, or New Assault Rifles & Attachements.

Fact is, the vast majority of PS3 players won't go near that channel b/c the fact you even have to memorize commands to log in is a wall no one wants to deal with.

The problem with most FPSers is they dont really dont complain about any of those things outside the weapon attachments which have been currently stated as 'not being planned for... yet' I mean seriosly the questions I ask would be the same kinds you ask just right now I have a short amount of time (these sessions are like 20 minutes or less when they happen) just right now some things are majorly more annoying than others. I sweep the fourums daily and the questions asked mostly reflected pages 1-3 of GD and Feedback (not involving entirely new ideas)

You can see that the first questions getting asked where about the hot fixes today.

You can tell there was a crud tonn of questions about the tanks. Which alot of IRCers are beginning to feel that this game is going to turn into tanks online in which if tanks become to prevalant (which they are atm) how else are you going to test for bad weapons?

Aim assist was asked about too, alot of the IRCers feel that tweaking weapons before fixing hit detection can be a bad thing as it leads to some weapons being much more powerful than first intended such as last builds breach AR, and this builds Milita Shotgun

Dropship handeling was discussed a bit.

I mean seriously when was the last thread you saw about AR spread being bad? SMG recoil complaints died 2 builds ago, only one guy ever complained about reloading needing something more.

There are hundreds and hundresds of issues dedicated forum community guys have been trying to compile all of your complaints and so far not one mention that SMG turn rate while ADS, or Where is our Laser Rifle (SOONtm)? Or Gauss Rifle?

CCP cant do everything neither can we, I mean I cant read your thoughts right now.

Please please oh please tell me what FPS mechanics are broken. Becuase as a casual shooter I have no kitten idea what is wrong with some guns and not. I cant read your mind and keeping these damn things to yourself is the other half of the effing problem.

Prove me wrong.

List me 30 gun handeling speific issues and ill consider your arguement valid.

Also at the rate you guys keep off topic posting I am requesting a cleanup, lock, or deletion. Depends how [CCP]Frame or the GMs are feeling today.

30 is kind of an arbitrary number. Why choose it?

Here some issues just off the top of my head.

1. Hit detection sucks
2. Controls are terrible and need redone
3. Range on weapons is stupid, I can hold my SMG on tsrget and have a chance 9m away, but 10m away I don'tland a single hit.
4. The feedback on when you get hits is terrible, don't know if one or everyone of my hits are landing.
5. Skills that improve a guns stats like weapon damage
6. Tanks > infantry
7. Games movement is too slow for the amount of health we have.
8. Skill is usually overturned by lag or the fact that the person your facing has grinded for SP longer.

Thats just a few of the issues I see. I have heard them voiced several times and zippo feedback from devs

And I don' even play that much so I am not totally sure if these are the only ones either.

30 is kind of an arbitrary number. Why choose it?

Here some issues just off the top of my head.

1. Hit detection sucks
2. Controls are terrible and need redone
3. Range on weapons is stupid, I can hold my SMG on tsrget and have a chance 9m away, but 10m away I don'tland a single hit.
4. The feedback on when you get hits is terrible, don't know if one or everyone of my hits are landing.
5. Skills that improve a guns stats like weapon damage
6. Tanks > infantry
7. Games movement is too slow for the amount of health we have.
8. Skill is usually overturned by lag or the fact that the person your facing has grinded for SP longer.

Thats just a few of the issues I see. I have heard them voiced several times and zippo feedback from devs

And I don' even play that much so I am not totally sure if these are the only ones either.