in most other betas, very large or game breaking bugs (like invalid fits) or huge problems with gameplay (like bad hit detection) take a build cycle or two to get fixed.
Four or five of the really big bugs haven't been fixed in SIX MONTHS AND THREE BUILDS

"but it's a beta!" does not cut it anymore

in most other betas, very large or game breaking bugs (like invalid fits) or huge problems with gameplay (like bad hit detection) take a build cycle or two to get fixed.
Four or five of the really big bugs haven't been fixed in SIX MONTHS AND THREE BUILDS

"but it's a beta!" does not cut it anymore

All of the bugs i get now I didnt get in the E3 build. The E3 build was more of a presentation build, this build is more of a real test build. Deal with it or leave.

IMO Sony n ccp should have had a dev with a good deal of experience handle the fps side of things, while ccp handled the economy, user interface etc..On top of the whole EvE integration thing ONLY

Well why don't you go sit in the corner and cry like the little kid you are and let the grownups test the game.

ITT we make another front page thread complaining about the performance of a beta test

InB4fanboysgetbutthurt


EDIT-To late....

Well according to where the beta is now, opposed to where it SHOULD be... you haven't been doing that good of a job thus far junior

Rather be a fanboy the a whinny **** ant that cries over anything, cries that the game has no potential, says he'll never play the game, but yet...YOU'RE...STILL...HERE.

Play the game or don't, I really don't care. But stop the incisive whining. All it's doing is making you look like a freakin five yr old. Or is that the case?

in most other betas, very large or game breaking bugs (like invalid fits) or huge problems with gameplay (like bad hit detection) take a build cycle or two to get fixed.
Four or five of the really big bugs haven't been fixed in SIX MONTHS AND THREE BUILDS

"but it's a beta!" does not cut it anymore

I never said the game has no potential.

I never said I will never play this game.

This is a beta and I will express my opinion all I want because you stupid fanboys try and act like this game is perfect. CCP could have came out with a board game for the PS3 and you would still gush in your panties over it.

Deal with it fanboy.

Rather be a fanboy the a whinny **** ant that cries over anything, cries that the game has no potential, says he'll never play the game, but yet...YOU'RE...STILL...HERE.

Play the game or don't, I really don't care. But stop the incisive whining. All it's doing is making you look like a freakin five yr old. Or is that the case?

Well why don't you go sit in the corner and cry like the little kid you are and let the grownups test the game.

See there's the problem, you think I think the game is perfect. I don't but I don't go around crying like a freakin little girl who just had her dolly stolen.

IMO Sony n ccp should have had a dev with a good deal of experience handle the fps side of things, while ccp handled the economy, user interface etc..On top of the whole EvE integration thing ONLY

Gents,

We are aware that there are issues and bugs that need to be ironed out and should have been. However, we are still implementing new features and this is because of production planning, i.e. the need to keep building C&D after building A&B. We can't stop making new features and fix only bugs at this stage, since we need to keep testing new things that we introduce. That is the true purpose of the Beta.

Having said that, we will of course fix existing issues and bugs, but understand that we have to balance priorities against available resources. We do have a long list of bugs (many reported by beta testers on this very forum) and we are dedicating development time towards fixing them.

oh, so priorities are towards putting in more stuff, not balancing it, and not fixing the big bugs? that does explain a lot

It makes more sense to put everything in and then get the bugs out instead of putting some stuff in, getting the bugs out, putting more stuff in, getting the new bugs out, etc.

It makes more sense to put everything in and then get the bugs out instead of putting some stuff in, getting the bugs out, putting more stuff in, getting the new bugs out, etc.

Hey guys......it's a beta. It's not your personal demo time, it doesn't matter that your ps3 froze, you got kicked or whatever, report it and move on. you are here to be a server load. Check out the game when it releases and whine about it then if you aren't happy. If not shut up and be a beta tester.

oh, so priorities are towards putting in more stuff, not balancing it, and not fixing the big bugs? that does explain a lot

It makes more sense to put everything in and then get the bugs out instead of putting some stuff in, getting the bugs out, putting more stuff in, getting the new bugs out, etc.

Gents,

We are aware that there are issues and bugs that need to be ironed out and should have been. However, we are still implementing new features and this is because of production planning, i.e. the need to keep building C&D after building A&B. We can't stop making new features and fix only bugs at this stage, since we need to keep testing new things that we introduce. That is the true purpose of the Beta.

Having said that, we will of course fix existing issues and bugs, but understand that we have to balance priorities against available resources. We do have a long list of bugs (many reported by beta testers on this very forum) and we are dedicating development time towards fixing them.

Hey guys......it's a beta. It's not your personal demo time, it doesn't matter that your ps3 froze, you got kicked or whatever, report it and move on. you are here to be a server load. Check out the game when it releases and whine about it then if you aren't happy. If not shut up and be a beta tester.

in most other betas, very large or game breaking bugs (like invalid fits) or huge problems with gameplay (like bad hit detection) take a build cycle or two to get fixed.
Four or five of the really big bugs haven't been fixed in SIX MONTHS AND THREE BUILDS

"but it's a beta!" does not cut it anymore

Gents,

We are aware that there are issues and bugs that need to be ironed out and should have been. However, we are still implementing new features and this is because of production planning, i.e. the need to keep building C&D after building A&B. We can't stop making new features and fix only bugs at this stage, since we need to keep testing new things that we introduce. That is the true purpose of the Beta.

Having said that, we will of course fix existing issues and bugs, but understand that we have to balance priorities against available resources. We do have a long list of bugs (many reported by beta testers on this very forum) and we are dedicating development time towards fixing them.

So are you guys using SCRUM/Agile? If so this makes sense... but it also sounds like you are building a ton of technical debt atm .. my take is right now is I'd rather have the features implemented. For example, all those "Soon(tm)" screens need something.. :)

I noticed the EVE Test Client for Singularity is reporting that pilots will be able to connect again on Monday. Does this mean we can expect a new build by then as well to sync up?

Thanks,
FH

The only real problem I have with the bugs is that people are joining the beta, not realizing that its a real beta, and telling everyone they know that the game sucks, etc IRL and on the internets. Goto any article about the precursor patch and read the comments.

Maybe redirect some people to fixing these bugs and slow down the features until then? I think this game has a ton of potential, as I gave up on shooters years ago, but many people won't see that, they will only see the bugs, glictches and constant restarts and give up on it. The only reason why I put up with 2-3 successful and fun matches per 5 hour block that I sit down and play is that I WANT THIS TO SUCCEED SO ******* BAD.

Gents,

We are aware that there are issues and bugs that need to be ironed out and should have been. However, we are still implementing new features and this is because of production planning, i.e. the need to keep building C&D after building A&B. We can't stop making new features and fix only bugs at this stage, since we need to keep testing new things that we introduce. That is the true purpose of the Beta.

Having said that, we will of course fix existing issues and bugs, but understand that we have to balance priorities against available resources. We do have a long list of bugs (many reported by beta testers on this very forum) and we are dedicating development time towards fixing them.

I just find it funny eve online has bug reporting for dust 514.

(...snip)
another one will be the lead upto the invalid fitting thats the SERVER FULL. if you see this you know
your going to be reseting console. the invalid fittings and server full are tied bugs, i have replicated 7-7 times

could we have resources just fix this invalid bug it would help us and you 100%

then blame ccp/sony for allowing random ppl in a closed beta expecting them not to treat it as a demo
Treating the beta like a celebrity event with these "weekly events" and granting access to ppl like IGN and PS+ who will obviously treat is as a demo and then say the game is ****......ccp/sony only have themselves to blame for the poor advertisement dunno whose genius idea that was

Precisely, and hopefully we can keep going with this without any further over-nerfs due to whiners.

Why is the forums full of whiny children like the OP always expecting a beta demo like BF3?

Dont they realise is actually a proper beta

Why is the forums full of whiny children like the OP always expecting a beta demo like BF3?

Dont they realise is actually a proper beta

in most other betas, very large or game breaking bugs (like invalid fits) or huge problems with gameplay (like bad hit detection) take a build cycle or two to get fixed.
Four or five of the really big bugs haven't been fixed in SIX MONTHS AND THREE BUILDS

"but it's a beta!" does not cut it anymore

Hey guys......it's a beta. It's not your personal demo time, it doesn't matter that your ps3 froze, you got kicked or whatever, report it and move on. you are here to be a server load. Check out the game when it releases and whine about it then if you aren't happy. If not shut up and be a beta tester.

in most other betas, very large or game breaking bugs (like invalid fits) or huge problems with gameplay (like bad hit detection) take a build cycle or two to get fixed.
Four or five of the really big bugs haven't been fixed in SIX MONTHS AND THREE BUILDS

"but it's a beta!" does not cut it anymore

I love it when the fanboiz in this thread say "Be constructive".
Ok.
I have been constructive for the past 3 months. I have reported many bugs glitches etc.
That said, when Cmdr Wang SAYS HIMSELF they are not focusing more on the foundation,
Of course its bad!

The tech needs to be solid! I don't want more features if all it is going to do is brick my PS3 because they didn't solve issues!

Here is the cruz of the issue. People are taking too much for granted. People have been saying "Its a beta it will get better". For 3 builds.

Ok, its marginally improved, but we STILL have hard locks, lag, hit detection issues, etc.

Not to mention that the basic gameplay is a hot topic and we can't agree if its even fun!

Be constructive... LOL.
I guarentee if I made a post about the issues right now, people would say "already been posted". So when I point out that the fix is nowhere in sight, they say "its a beta".


...

That makes it SO MUCH BETTER. I will just let the issues fall aside so we can have the front page plastered in freaking recruitment threads or dumb stuff.

No. I refuse. CCP's next build should be the "We kicked the **** out of every bug and issue" build. And that should be its name.
I dont want new stuff until the tech is solid and bugs with the current build are fixed.

I like what your trying to do CCP but this needs updated more. A 6 week beta period is dumb. Negotiate with Sony to get daily patches or something. I don't want to brick my PS3 by playing your game

If you think the improvements have only been marginal, you're expecations/understanding are vastly out of whack. I've been here for four builds I believe, and each one has made considerable improvements over the last. The most recent one is probably the least advanced in terms of core functionality, but it had significant strides in ancillary things.

I'm not going to slam a development process that I'm not working on, because I don't like the order they're addressing issues.

Its a beta but tbh for me its better than all other FPS shooters i have

You device yourself.

I love how CCP just seems to play Jenga with dust "lets see how many **** we can stack up with a mediocre base until everything falls"

How about you do like the whole MOBA developers have been doing with their betas, fix the issues THEN release new stuff.

Just a thought.


And yes I hate the "its a beta" excuse, just cause its a beta doesnt mean that it has to be poorly done, thats what alphas are for, kid.

That exactly what I am thinking. I have been here since April and the only thing I've seen get *better* is the frame rate and menu loading time. Something that shouldn't take 1/2 a year and 4 builds to 'fix' This game is waaaay behind and we don't have any proof that fixes are coming. Only wang saying, "be patient." I've heard this dog and pony show before and it was called Socom4. Oh, the community was just as discontent there too and the developer is now out of business.

Are we playing the same game?

You know what you are? Shareholders. You're the people who want every quarter's earnings to be better than the last. And then after a few years you find out that those constantly increasing earnings were bought at the expense of long-term viability. In other words, the company went under in the long term in order to make you happy every three months. It happens all the time.

This project is a long-term investment. That means sometimes you have to deal with weak periods where it doesn't seem like things are going very well because they're setting themselves up for long-term success. And sometimes you don't see how it's supposed to turn into long-term success, because you don't have a full view of the strategy. But if you trust the management team, you believe in the potential, and you think it will ultimately pay off, you stick with it.

If these problems that just about everyone knows are problems don't get worked out, the game's going to be a failure. I don't believe CCP is okay with failure. They tried it once and don't seem to be keen on doing it again. So let them fix it the way it needs to be fixed, and if you're sick of dealing with the flaws then take some time off and come back in a couple months.

What the hell are you talking about lol

Dust 514 in 4 slogans:

"Adapt or Die"
"Soon TM"
"It'a beta"
"Dust is not a FPS it's a MMO"

Needless to say that they don't work.

You know what you are? Shareholders. You're the people who want every quarter's earnings to be better than the last. And then after a few years you find out that those constantly increasing earnings were bought at the expense of long-term viability. In other words, the company went under in the long term in order to make you happy every three months. It happens all the time.

This project is a long-term investment. That means sometimes you have to deal with weak periods where it doesn't seem like things are going very well because they're setting themselves up for long-term success. And sometimes you don't see how it's supposed to turn into long-term success, because you don't have a full view of the strategy. But if you trust the management team, you believe in the potential, and you think it will ultimately pay off, you stick with it.

If these problems that just about everyone knows are problems don't get worked out, the game's going to be a failure. I don't believe CCP is okay with failure. They tried it once and don't seem to be keen on doing it again. So let them fix it the way it needs to be fixed, and if you're sick of dealing with the flaws then take some time off and come back in a couple months.

It makes more sense to put everything in and then get the bugs out instead of putting some stuff in, getting the bugs out, putting more stuff in, getting the new bugs out, etc.

This. As someone who works with software development, I can tell you that CCP's approach is right on. Remember, if they implement a fix for an issue today, there is not way to anticipate how that fix will interact with the other features being introduced. The best way to implement fixes to have a complete product first, so they know how everything interacts. If they dedicate time to fixing bugs now and then have to fix them again once a new feature is released, then the production schedule will not be met and we won't have the game as quickly as if they fixed bugs after the product was complete with all new features.

I am not saying this as a fanboy, I'm saying this as a technology professional for one of the world's leading firewall companies.

So basically what you're saying is is that this build is permanently screwed?!

in most other betas, very large or game breaking bugs (like invalid fits) or huge problems with gameplay (like bad hit detection) take a build cycle or two to get fixed.
Four or five of the really big bugs haven't been fixed in SIX MONTHS AND THREE BUILDS

"but it's a beta!" does not cut it anymore

That exactly what I am thinking. I have been here since April and the only thing I've seen get *better* is the frame rate and menu loading time. Something that shouldn't take 1/2 a year and 4 builds to 'fix' This game is waaaay behind and we don't have any proof that fixes are coming. Only wang saying, "be patient." I've heard this dog and pony show before and it was called Socom4. Oh, the community was just as discontent there too and the developer is now out of business.

The advancement in gameplay and features just in the 2 months I've been in the beta have been pretty huge. The game has gone from being nearly unplayable to being one of my favorite FPS experiences in quite a long time. I'll agree that the hard freezes and such are extremely irritating, but there's a hotfix on the way to iron some of that out. Otherwise, frankly, I don't understand how people can say this game isn't improving, it's practically an entirely new game compared to just a few builds back.

That makes no sense! The hardlocks make the game highly irritating yet it's one of the best FPS experience you've had compared to FPS that don't hard lock???????????????

The game has only improved frame rate and graphics wise and menu load screen. Hit detection was supposed to be fixed 4 builds in a row. The move to SiSi was supposed to make hit detection better we got rid of hard locks 3 builds ago to get them back worse than ever.

That's 6 strikes right there one more out this this inning and CCP will have to hang it up. Oh and the fact that this build is giving people YLOD's should be strike 7... 2 more and your out!

Words. Twisted. Good job. Your boyfirend must love that.

Gents,

We are aware that there are issues and bugs that need to be ironed out and should have been. However, we are still implementing new features and this is because of production planning, i.e. the need to keep building C&D after building A&B. We can't stop making new features and fix only bugs at this stage, since we need to keep testing new things that we introduce. That is the true purpose of the Beta.

Having said that, we will of course fix existing issues and bugs, but understand that we have to balance priorities against available resources. We do have a long list of bugs (many reported by beta testers on this very forum) and we are dedicating development time towards fixing them.

You clearly haven't played the third last build if you don't think hit detection hasn't improved, and what has hard lock got to do with FPS gameplay, just asking out of curiousity. Do I think this game needs work. Yes, I do, and what I've seen over the past three months has me convinced that CCP can do it, yet denying any problem with its a beta, is, as the OP said, both naive and foolish. The amount of suggestions and feedback which I've seen posted here being trashed by immature idiots is astounding, and makes me wonder if some people want this game to succeed or not.

Gents,

We are aware that there are issues and bugs that need to be ironed out and should have been. However, we are still implementing new features and this is because of production planning, i.e. the need to keep building C&D after building A&B. We can't stop making new features and fix only bugs at this stage, since we need to keep testing new things that we introduce. That is the true purpose of the Beta.

Having said that, we will of course fix existing issues and bugs, but understand that we have to balance priorities against available resources. We do have a long list of bugs (many reported by beta testers on this very forum) and we are dedicating development time towards fixing them.

This. As someone who works with software development, I can tell you that CCP's approach is right on. Remember, if they implement a fix for an issue today, there is not way to anticipate how that fix will interact with the other features being introduced. The best way to implement fixes to have a complete product first, so they know how everything interacts. If they dedicate time to fixing bugs now and then have to fix them again once a new feature is released, then the production schedule will not be met and we won't have the game as quickly as if they fixed bugs after the product was complete with all new features.

I am not saying this as a fanboy, I'm saying this as a technology professional for one of the world's leading firewall companies.

Rational explanations don't help some people get the "yes" "no" answer they want despite it not being a yes no question.
Its a perpetual state of ******.
Must be a nightmare for those people.

I've reiterated this with different wording a few times on this forum, but I'm just going to repeat myself.

As a beta tester, it's my obligation to provide feedback to the developers indirectly through the forum on how to improve the game. (It's generally stated as a requirement of sorts in the ToS)
The game is unfinished, yes. It says BETA in the XMB, as a watermark in-game, and you even have to accept a confidentially agreement each time you want to play. I'm fully aware of this.

However, my dissatisfaction in the game comes as to how broken it's core foundation is, especially this late in development. Call other betas a glorified demo all you please, but other games I have tested were generally feature complete and free of game breaking glitches you would typically find in an alpha such as hard freezes, deleted items, frequent disconnections (regardless of network quality), inconsistent performance and the like. They did contain issues, but those one would normally expect for a game releasing 3-4 months from beta deployment.

The state of this game would warrant your average non-EVE player a pretty negative response, while others would suggest delaying the release until late or mid 2013. It's difficult to overlook such glaring issues typically fixed during the alpha stage, and it's worrying when people tirelessly insist "Oh, it's a beta!".
A beta is generally a product that's done and undergoing the last stages of testing for problems that were overlooked. Since this is an MMO, it would be one that has had all of its core features implemented, tested to a fine degree, and free of crippling bugs. The fact that there is excessive texture pop in is normal for a beta. Those hard lock ups, critical glitches and half-implemented core features are not.

I am dissatisfied, yet I still come here to report issues, see more feedback, and read developer responses. If I thought the game had no potential to begin with, I wouldn't bother.

ppl who ***** about the game get off your fat ass and get a job in game design etc and lets see how boss you are lmfao nubs

people are acting like they've paid for a game and it isn't working, the bugs are annoying, but but its a beta and you have the privilege to play it before release because you are beta testing it.

report the bugs and stop acting like you've been ripped off, you self centered toss pots.

i think the problem with this beta, is that we are so use to polished betas that we have forgot what a true beta is?

this is a question yo

don't understand what you mean?

this is a question why( i understand)

this is a question yo ( don't understand)

if it's this is a question why? then it's not it's a comment.

this is a question yo?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yo

cant make a link work i fail

Gents,

We are aware that there are issues and bugs that need to be ironed out and should have been. However, we are still implementing new features and this is because of production planning, i.e. the need to keep building C&D after building A&B. We can't stop making new features and fix only bugs at this stage, since we need to keep testing new things that we introduce. That is the true purpose of the Beta.

Having said that, we will of course fix existing issues and bugs, but understand that we have to balance priorities against available resources. We do have a long list of bugs (many reported by beta testers on this very forum) and we are dedicating development time towards fixing them.

i think the problem with this beta, is that we are so use to polished betas that we have forgot what a true beta is?

This is why beta testing is a joke, because the community is full of assholes who are more concerned with trashing each other through juvenile taunts, insults, and namecalling than testing, providing constructive feedback, and making progress toward a better product.

When I made constructive feedback, use search and you will find aplenty, I was either ignored or insulted.

-I gave feedback on spawning: CCP then opted for random spawn even if we pointed you it would not solve spawn-camping.
-I gave feedback on in-game skill balance and pointed out the problems of relying on SP/stats in a FPS and I was ignored.
-I gave feedback on: weight for weapons, animations, sounds, menus, introduce ED UI, improve UI, improve HUD, improve/fix melee...I was ignored every time.
-I pushed for Customization opposed to fitting and I was ignored: Balcklight Retribution has a better/wider customization than Dust 514 and it's not even a MMO and this is ridiculous.
If you look at other MMO instead you will find that Defiance & PalnetSide 2 have a customization system far better then ours.
-I proposed Realistic Magazine Management to make the game even harder: I was ignored.
-I proposed Cockpit view for aircraft, like in BF or Planteside 2 and I was ignored.
-I asked, for everyone, to let us turn off active aim assist and guess what it's going to stay.

We gave feedback on this and much more for months and we always ignored.
Never, never CCP answered to any of our threads but they had the time to answer to joke threads like "nerf the scissor".
Our gamepaly feedback was ignored but jokes are worth answering.

CCP was/is not interested in what I suggested and the result is that every Dust 514 preview agrees with me/us and says that the gameplay it's poor.

And Don't you dare say that we din't gave constructive feedback because we did it.

Uh, you did notice that there's a shiny new option to turn off aim assist in the settings menu, right?

How about...Its Beta-Alpha? Cause this isn't new school beta. Its a old school beta that begins right after alpha that could go on for a year or two. Stuff gets fixed that breaks something else that fixs something else that breaks another thing.

You guys need to understand that the of is not a ps3. It's processor is COMPLETELY different.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention; this game is 100% free. I wouldn't put this much effort into anything for free, would you?

Firstly, it's spelled its, not it's. Secondly, the CELL architecture has nothing to do with the state the beta is in atm.



God you're stupid.

bf broke up with you?

Also should have used the kz3 engine so people would shut up about graphics

This is why beta testing is a joke, because the community is full of assholes who are more concerned with trashing each other through juvenile taunts, insults, and namecalling than testing, providing constructive feedback, and making progress toward a better product.

I prefer they find the bugs now and fix them before the release of the game, rather than the Call of Duty method of releasing a broken game that doesn't work then fix it with 15 patches

I never said the game has no potential.

I never said I will never play this game.

This is a beta and I will express my opinion all I want because you stupid fanboys try and act like this game is perfect. CCP could have came out with a board game for the PS3 and you would still gush in your panties over it.

Deal with it fanboy.

English snake is bad at BF3 therefore BF3 is a bad game.

I agree 100% saying it's a beta over and over again is basically saying hey well get around to it but in the mean time here is something new to add in to the game so we can hide the real problems. That is just my opinion.

FREE..........anything else? after you release something free people enjoy that is...........no? back to COD babys

CS: source its free, better than dust.












NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXT.

I feel the issue is most of the feedback given here on the forums is always countered with this childish bullsh1t. Every time someone comes in with something to input they are immediately flamed by fgts saying, "its just a beta bro, you've obviously never played a real beta." So then those people, like myself, say you know what, **** all you guys and the horse you rid in on and just leave.

The reason the beta is how it is right now is those same people who are being gay and trolling those trying to post real issues here on the forums are also the ones nuthugging in the iirc chat. This is what i assume the typical life and conversation of a dust fanboy is in the chat.

"No CCP, dust is great how it is. It is perfect as it stands. There is no need to fix hit detection, or match making, or lag, or vehicle mechanics, or pay to win, or pay to chat, or constant hard freezing, or any of the other issues in this game right now. What we really want is to walk backwards in merc quarters and to have a new tank named after my favorite game of all time, Black ops. All these kids in the forums criticizing and putting down this game don't know what they are talking about, you just need to keep on adding new features and completely ignore the reason 75% of players play this game for a couple days and leave. They just don't understand what a great game should play like. Obviously since i have played eve everyday for the last 4 years, i understand what it takes to make a AAA shooter, and since they liked MAG and BF3, their perception of what a good shooter should be is flawed."

Everyone needs to get out of this "its just a beta" buttslit or thats what this game will continue to be... just a beta.

Dust could really be a good game, but the community is ruining not only the game, but the whole experience by trolling anyone trying to give decent input on the forums. If you guys are ok with what this game is now, thats fine with me. I was really looking forward to playing this game and supporting the community, but with the way the community has been, i could care less at this point if this game succeeds or fails (and i am starting to feel it will end up being the latter).

CS: source its free, better than dust.












NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXT.

No the biggest problem here is these forums are full of evetards who know nothing about consoles or console shooters and want tanks in space to become tanks on the ground.

KBM......... go back to your PC RPG.

PC is so superior....... go back there then.

Graphics are so poor compared to my -ú10,000 PC............. go play on it then.

This should have been made for PC not console, I bought a ps3 just for this but the DS3 is too hard............. BYE THEN......

CCP PC fanboys...... NO IDEA.

killzone 3 engine on this scale would run at 20 fps

Gents,

We are aware that there are issues and bugs that need to be ironed out and should have been. However, we are still implementing new features and this is because of production planning, i.e. the need to keep building C&D after building A&B. We can't stop making new features and fix only bugs at this stage, since we need to keep testing new things that we introduce. That is the true purpose of the Beta.

Having said that, we will of course fix existing issues and bugs, but understand that we have to balance priorities against available resources. We do have a long list of bugs (many reported by beta testers on this very forum) and we are dedicating development time towards fixing them.