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Saiibot Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 142	Posted - 2012.08.24 02:32:00 - [1] - Quote in most other betas, very large or game breaking bugs (like invalid fits) or huge problems with gameplay (like bad hit detection) take a build cycle or two to get fixed. Four or five of the really big bugs haven't been fixed in SIX MONTHS AND THREE BUILDS "but it's a beta!" does not cut it anymore
GIZMO2606 80	Posted - 2012.08.24 02:36:00 - [2] - Quote Saiibot wrote: in most other betas, very large or game breaking bugs (like invalid fits) or huge problems with gameplay (like bad hit detection) take a build cycle or two to get fixed. Four or five of the really big bugs haven't been fixed in SIX MONTHS AND THREE BUILDS "but it's a beta!" does not cut it anymore I agree 100% saying it's a beta over and over again is basically saying hey well get around to it but in the mean time here is something new to add in to the game so we can hide the real problems. That is just my opinion.
Sojuro Ryo Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 189	Posted - 2012.08.24 02:39:00 - [3] - Quote Well why don't you go sit in the corner and cry like the little kid you are and let the grownups test the game.
Crimson MoonV Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 658	Posted - 2012.08.24 02:40:00 - [4] - Quote InB4fanboysgetbutthurt EDIT-To late....
Saiibot Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 142	Posted - 2012.08.24 02:41:00 - [5] - Quote IMO Sony n ccp should have had a dev with a good deal of experience handle the fps side of things, while ccp handled the economy, user interface etc..On top of the whole EvE integration thing ONLY
Paran Tadec Imperfects Negative-Feedback 902	Posted - 2012.08.24 02:42:00 - [6] - Quote Saiibot wrote: in most other betas, very large or game breaking bugs (like invalid fits) or huge problems with gameplay (like bad hit detection) take a build cycle or two to get fixed. Four or five of the really big bugs haven't been fixed in SIX MONTHS AND THREE BUILDS "but it's a beta!" does not cut it anymore All of the bugs i get now I didnt get in the E3 build. The E3 build was more of a presentation build, this build is more of a real test build. Deal with it or leave.
Saiibot Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 142	Posted - 2012.08.24 02:44:00 - [7] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: Saiibot wrote: in most other betas, very large or game breaking bugs (like invalid fits) or huge problems with gameplay (like bad hit detection) take a build cycle or two to get fixed. Four or five of the really big bugs haven't been fixed in SIX MONTHS AND THREE BUILDS "but it's a beta!" does not cut it anymore All of the bugs i get now I didnt get in the E3 build. The E3 build was more of a presentation build, this build is more of a real test build. Deal with it or leave. Hmmm..... whatever you say
STB Vermaak Doe 558	Posted - 2012.08.24 02:44:00 - [8] - Quote Saiibot wrote: IMO Sony n ccp should have had a dev with a good deal of experience handle the fps side of things, while ccp handled the economy, user interface etc..On top of the whole EvE integration thing ONLY Also should have used the kz3 engine so people would shut up about graphics
Lilah Silverstone Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 22	Posted - 2012.08.24 02:48:00 - [9] - Quote ITT we make another front page thread complaining about the performance of a beta test
Saiibot Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 142	Posted - 2012.08.24 02:49:00 - [10] - Quote Sojuro Ryo wrote: Well why don't you go sit in the corner and cry like the little kid you are and let the grownups test the game. Well according to where the beta is now, opposed to where it SHOULD be... you haven't been doing that good of a job thus far junior

Saiibot Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 142	Posted - 2012.08.24 02:53:00 - [11] - Quote Lilah Silverstone wrote: ITT we make another front page thread complaining about the performance of a beta test A beta?!?! Could have fooled me, I thought it was an alpha!!
Sojuro Ryo Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 189	Posted - 2012.08.24 02:55:00 - [12] - Quote Crimson MoonV wrote: InB4fanboysgetbutthurt EDIT-To late.... Rather be a fanboy the a whinny **** ant that cries over anything, cries that the game has no potential, says he'll never play the game, but yet...YOU'RE...STILL...HERE. Play the game or don't, I really don't care. But stop the incisive whining. All it's doing is making you look like a freakin five yr old. Or is that the case?
Sojuro Ryo Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 189	Posted - 2012.08.24 02:59:00 - [13] - Quote Saiibot wrote: Sojuro Ryo wrote: Well why don't you go sit in the corner and cry like the little kid you are and let the grownups test the game. Well according to where the beta is now, opposed to where it SHOULD be... you haven't been doing that good of a job thus far junior Oh, where it's supposed to be? Do you have the plans to where CCP has stated when they are going to actually launch the game? If you do please share because the rest of us don't have that info. And wile you at it, grab the info on what's going t be on the next update. Thank You
Crimson MoonV Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 658	Posted - 2012.08.24 03:04:00 - [14] - Quote Sojuro Ryo wrote: Crimson MoonV wrote: InB4fanboysgetbutthurt EDIT-To late.... Rather be a fanboy the a whinny ** ant that cries over anything, cries that the game has no potential, says he'll never play the game, but yet...YOU'RE...STILL...HERE. Play the game or don't, I really don't care. But stop the incisive whining. All it's doing is making you look like a freakin five yr old. Or is that the case? I never said the game has no potential. I never said I will never play this game. This is a beta and I will express my opinion all I want because you stupid fanboys** try and act like this game is perfect. CCP could have came out with a board game for the PS3 and you would still gush in your panties over it. Deal with it fanboy.
TEBOW BAGGINS FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET 549	Posted - 2012.08.24 03:04:00 - [15] - Quote Saiibot wrote: in most other betas, very large or game breaking bugs (like invalid fits) or huge problems with gameplay (like bad hit detection) take a build cycle or two to get fixed. Four or five of the really big bugs haven't been fixed in SIX MONTHS AND THREE BUILDS "but it's a beta!" does not cut it anymore i take it your not a fan of hard reboots
wathak 514 Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 106	Posted - 2012.08.24 03:05:00 - [16] - Quote ** me anouther of these hatr threads. HELLO WERE HERE TO TEST A GAME SO STOP UR BITCHING WHINNING COMPLAININGAND UPRIGHT UNUSEFULLNESS AND GET USEFULL. Siting here saying that the game is is not helping make a real *** thread about whats broken what needs improvements and what needs to be changed. The unreal 3 engine is a perfectly good game making tool befor any bags on it again i suggest u look at the player voted top 10 games on g4, e3, mmohut or what ever site u can think of and count how many are from the unreal3 engine. No ccp aint experianced in shooter programming but that dont mean they wernt experianced in pc mmo games eather but look they got one of the most succseful mmo games out there. Hell if i got my history riht the first versons of eve game out of a garage just like anouther popular game like oh little big planet. Seriously if i knew how to code i could be making an exact copy of all ur belovid call of duties and halos and other games focused on instant gratifacation rather then long term gameplay and id could do this on my schools out of date copy of unreal engine currently istalled in the computerlabs computers. Now devs i recommend a closeand lock to all these threads aswell as a ban ofthe persons beta key so it may be given to someone that shall put in constructive critizism rather the saying this game is **
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.08.24 03:06:00 - [17] - Quote Ryo gets fanboy of the thread award... Paran Tadec is correct. E3 build was designed for stability and pick up play. Very stable, free everything. How do we know it wasn't much of a test? Small player counts on a single map. Some very large maps this build. Skirmish with 5 objectives is pretty class. This build will hopefully get a patch sooner rather than later. There's also the server schedule change ect. Kittens are going to hit the fan Hard when we get to TQ I'd imagine.
Sojuro Ryo Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 189	Posted - 2012.08.24 03:13:00 - [18] - Quote Crimson MoonV wrote: Sojuro Ryo wrote: Crimson MoonV wrote: InB4fanboysgetbutthurt EDIT-To late.... Rather be a fanboy the a whinny ** ant that cries over anything, cries that the game has no potential, says he'll never play the game, but yet...YOU'RE...STILL...HERE. Play the game or don't, I really don't care. But stop the incisive whining. All it's doing is making you look like a freakin five yr old. Or is that the case? I never said the game has no potential. I never said I will never play this game. This is a beta and I will express my opinion all I want because you stupid fanboys** try and act like this game is perfect. CCP could have came out with a board game for the PS3 and you would still gush in your panties over it. Deal with it fanboy. See there's the problem, you think I think the game is perfect. I don't but I don't go around crying like a freakin little girl who just had her dolly stolen.
Derpdut Zakall Ordus Trismegistus 2	Posted - 2012.08.24 03:15:00 - [19] - Quote Sojuro Ryo wrote: Crimson MoonV wrote: InB4fanboysgetbutthurt EDIT-To late.... Rather be a fanboy the a whinny **** ant that cries over anything, cries that the game has no potential, says he'll never play the game, but yet...YOU'RE...STILL...HERE. Play the game or don't, I really don't care. But stop the incisive whining. All it's doing is making you look like a freakin five yr old. Or is that the case? X2
Burger Helper 84	Posted - 2012.08.24 03:20:00 - [20] - Quote Sojuro Ryo wrote: Well why don't you go sit in the corner and cry like the little kid you are and let the grownups test the game. i don't want CCP to **** this game up, i was really looking forward to it! but at the same time i knew in the back of my mind "ccp has no idea what they're getting into..."

Crimson MoonV Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 658	Posted - 2012.08.24 03:21:00 - [21] - Quote Sojuro Ryo wrote: Crimson MoonV wrote: Sojuro Ryo wrote: Crimson MoonV wrote: InB4fanboysgetbutthurt EDIT-To late.... Rather be a fanboy the a whinny ** ant that cries over anything, cries that the game has no potential, says he'll never play the game, but yet...YOU'RE...STILL...HERE. Play the game or don't, I really don't care. But stop the incisive whining. All it's doing is making you look like a freakin five yr old. Or is that the case? I never said the game has no potential. I never said I will never play this game. This is a beta and I will express my opinion all I want because you stupid fanboys** try and act like this game is perfect. CCP could have came out with a board game for the PS3 and you would still gush in your panties over it. Deal with it fanboy. See there's the problem, you think I think the game is perfect. I don't but I don't go around crying like a freakin little girl who just had her dolly stolen. Your a fanboy your judgement is tainted. Why do you think I care if dust sucks? I am not a ccp fanboy like you. When the games fail I'm just going to laugh my ass off. Dust sucks atm. I just think its funny how butthurt you get when I say it. Dust sucks atm. Deal with it.
Buzzwords Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 416	Posted - 2012.08.24 03:21:00 - [22] - Quote um... isn't the point of testing the game to find out what's wrong with it? then... report those things? i mean it's surprising that CCP needs to be told that having to reset once out of every... time? needs fixing, but here we are. "subject to change" does not mean "will be perfect because of magic" if you're unwilling to critique the game we're testing, why are YOU here?!
Burger Helper 84	Posted - 2012.08.24 03:21:00 - [23] - Quote Saiibot wrote: IMO Sony n ccp should have had a dev with a good deal of experience handle the fps side of things, while ccp handled the economy, user interface etc..On top of the whole EvE integration thing ONLY oh man this would have been awesome a seasoned fps dev works out the core gameplay and balance, with ccp injecting a little of their special sauce and ccp works in the background with all the cross game interaction and merging the markets and stuff. you know, thing they know how to do

CCP Cmdr Wang C C P C C P Alliance 1876	Posted - 2012.08.24 03:55:00 - [24] - Quote Gents, We are aware that there are issues and bugs that need to be ironed out and should have been. However, we are still implementing new features and this is because of production planning, i.e. the need to keep building C&D after building A&B. We can't stop making new features and fix only bugs at this stage, since we need to keep testing new things that we introduce. That is the true purpose of the Beta. Having said that, we will of course fix existing issues and bugs, but understand that we have to balance priorities against available resources. We do have a long list of bugs (many reported by beta testers on this very forum) and we are dedicating development time towards fixing them.

Burger Helper 84	Posted - 2012.08.24 04:01:00 - [25] - Quote CCP Cmdr Wang wrote: Gents, We are aware that there are issues and bugs that need to be ironed out and should have been. However, we are still implementing new features and this is because of production planning, i.e. the need to keep building C&D after building A&B. We can't stop making new features and fix only bugs at this stage, since we need to keep testing new things that we introduce. That is the true purpose of the Beta. Having said that, we will of course fix existing issues and bugs, but understand that we have to balance priorities against available resources. We do have a long list of bugs (many reported by beta testers on this very forum) and we are dedicating development time towards fixing them. oh, so priorities are towards putting in more stuff, not balancing it, and not fixing the big bugs? that does explain a lot
Buzzwords Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 416	Posted - 2012.08.24 04:11:00 - [26] - Quote i'm sure there are assets that cannot be moved, artists that can't code or something like that. you know, human limitations. but if i may play devils advocate commander wang, i submit that all testing is made significantly less efficient by these game breaking bugs and glitches. new features MAY need less time to test if we didn't have to constantly restart our systems or rage quit. and rage quitting = lost testers. i know a few people myself who simply can't be bothered. so it might be worth it plus we'd all be a lot happier. don't get me wrong, i actually LIKE this game. i'd like to play it. but with a group of 4, SOMEBODY has to reset almost every game. it's incredibly frustrating
Arbor Viridanus Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 196	Posted - 2012.08.24 04:14:00 - [27] - Quote Burger Helper wrote: CCP Cmdr Wang wrote: Gents, We are aware that there are issues and bugs that need to be ironed out and should have been. However, we are still implementing new features and this is because of production planning, i.e. the need to keep building C&D after building A&B. We can't stop making new features and fix only bugs at this stage, since we need to keep testing new things that we introduce. That is the true purpose of the Beta. Having said that, we will of course fix existing issues and bugs, but understand that we have to balance priorities against available resources. We do have a long list of bugs (many reported by beta testers on this very forum) and we are dedicating development time towards fixing them. oh, so priorities are towards putting in more stuff, not balancing it, and not fixing the big bugs? that does explain a lot It makes more sense to put everything in and then get the bugs out instead of putting some stuff in, getting the bugs out, putting more stuff in, getting the new bugs out, etc.
Pezz IsDank Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 171	Posted - 2012.08.24 04:36:00 - [28] - Quote Arbor Viridanus wrote: Burger Helper wrote: CCP Cmdr Wang wrote: Gents, We are aware that there are issues and bugs that need to be ironed out and should have been. However, we are still implementing new features and this is because of production planning, i.e. the need to keep building C&D after building A&B. We can't stop making new features and fix only bugs at this stage, since we need to keep testing new things that we introduce. That is the true purpose of the Beta. Having said that, we will of course fix existing issues and bugs, but understand that we have to balance priorities against available resources. We do have a long list of bugs (many reported by beta testers on this very forum) and we are dedicating development time towards fixing them. oh, so priorities are towards putting in more stuff, not balancing it, and not fixing the big bugs? that does explain a lot It makes more sense to put everything in and then get the bugs out instead of putting some stuff in, getting the bugs out, putting more stuff in, getting the new bugs out, etc. Yah it really does, especially in a game where there are so many different things to take into consideration like how each thing implemented will effect one another and to what degree. I imagine it's fairly hard to balance out a game when you don't even have it all implemented. This thread is counterproductive though, it offers no insight on how to improve the game it's simply someone whining about flaws in a beta. Big whoop, nothing new here. Not even mad about it, just pointing out the obvious. The useless QQing is easy enough to avoid, the titles and authors are usually a dead giveaway, I just like to read these threads for the lawls at times.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.08.24 04:36:00 - [29] - Quote Arbor Viridanus wrote: Burger Helper wrote: CCP Cmdr Wang wrote: Gents, We are aware that there are issues and bugs that need to be ironed out and should have been. However, we are still implementing new features and this is because of production planning, i.e. the need to keep building C&D after building A&B. We can't stop making new features and fix only bugs at this stage, since we need to keep testing new things that we introduce. That is the true purpose of the Beta. Having said that, we will of course fix existing issues and bugs, but understand that we have to balance priorities against available resources. We do have a long list of bugs (many reported by beta testers on this very forum) and we are dedicating development time towards fixing them. oh, so priorities are towards putting in more stuff, not balancing it, and not fixing the big bugs? that does explain a lot It makes more sense to put everything in and then get the bugs out instead of putting some stuff in, getting the bugs out, putting more stuff in, getting the new bugs out, etc. Precisely, and hopefully we can keep going with this without any further over-nerfs due to whiners.
Bugid E Aiba Immobile Infantry 8	Posted - 2012.08.24 04:41:00 - [30] - Quote Hey guys......it's a beta. It's not your personal demo time, it doesn't matter that your ps3 froze, you got kicked or whatever, report it and move on. you are here to be a server load. Check out the game when it releases and whine about it then if you aren't happy. If not shut up and be a beta tester.



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