You clearly haven't played the third last build if you don't think hit detection hasn't improved, and what has hard lock got to do with FPS gameplay, just asking out of curiousity. Do I think this game needs work. Yes, I do, and what I've seen over the past three months has me convinced that CCP can do it, yet denying any problem with its a beta, is, as the OP said, both naive and foolish. The amount of suggestions and feedback which I've seen posted here being trashed by immature idiots is astounding, and makes me wonder if some people want this game to succeed or not.

Gents,

We are aware that there are issues and bugs that need to be ironed out and should have been. However, we are still implementing new features and this is because of production planning, i.e. the need to keep building C&D after building A&B. We can't stop making new features and fix only bugs at this stage, since we need to keep testing new things that we introduce. That is the true purpose of the Beta.

Having said that, we will of course fix existing issues and bugs, but understand that we have to balance priorities against available resources. We do have a long list of bugs (many reported by beta testers on this very forum) and we are dedicating development time towards fixing them.

This. As someone who works with software development, I can tell you that CCP's approach is right on. Remember, if they implement a fix for an issue today, there is not way to anticipate how that fix will interact with the other features being introduced. The best way to implement fixes to have a complete product first, so they know how everything interacts. If they dedicate time to fixing bugs now and then have to fix them again once a new feature is released, then the production schedule will not be met and we won't have the game as quickly as if they fixed bugs after the product was complete with all new features.

I am not saying this as a fanboy, I'm saying this as a technology professional for one of the world's leading firewall companies.

Rational explanations don't help some people get the "yes" "no" answer they want despite it not being a yes no question.
Its a perpetual state of ******.
Must be a nightmare for those people.

I've reiterated this with different wording a few times on this forum, but I'm just going to repeat myself.

As a beta tester, it's my obligation to provide feedback to the developers indirectly through the forum on how to improve the game. (It's generally stated as a requirement of sorts in the ToS)
The game is unfinished, yes. It says BETA in the XMB, as a watermark in-game, and you even have to accept a confidentially agreement each time you want to play. I'm fully aware of this.

However, my dissatisfaction in the game comes as to how broken it's core foundation is, especially this late in development. Call other betas a glorified demo all you please, but other games I have tested were generally feature complete and free of game breaking glitches you would typically find in an alpha such as hard freezes, deleted items, frequent disconnections (regardless of network quality), inconsistent performance and the like. They did contain issues, but those one would normally expect for a game releasing 3-4 months from beta deployment.

The state of this game would warrant your average non-EVE player a pretty negative response, while others would suggest delaying the release until late or mid 2013. It's difficult to overlook such glaring issues typically fixed during the alpha stage, and it's worrying when people tirelessly insist "Oh, it's a beta!".
A beta is generally a product that's done and undergoing the last stages of testing for problems that were overlooked. Since this is an MMO, it would be one that has had all of its core features implemented, tested to a fine degree, and free of crippling bugs. The fact that there is excessive texture pop in is normal for a beta. Those hard lock ups, critical glitches and half-implemented core features are not.

I am dissatisfied, yet I still come here to report issues, see more feedback, and read developer responses. If I thought the game had no potential to begin with, I wouldn't bother.

ppl who ***** about the game get off your fat ass and get a job in game design etc and lets see how boss you are lmfao nubs

people are acting like they've paid for a game and it isn't working, the bugs are annoying, but but its a beta and you have the privilege to play it before release because you are beta testing it.

report the bugs and stop acting like you've been ripped off, you self centered toss pots.

i think the problem with this beta, is that we are so use to polished betas that we have forgot what a true beta is?

this is a question yo

don't understand what you mean?

this is a question why( i understand)

this is a question yo ( don't understand)

if it's this is a question why? then it's not it's a comment.

this is a question yo?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yo

cant make a link work i fail

Gents,

We are aware that there are issues and bugs that need to be ironed out and should have been. However, we are still implementing new features and this is because of production planning, i.e. the need to keep building C&D after building A&B. We can't stop making new features and fix only bugs at this stage, since we need to keep testing new things that we introduce. That is the true purpose of the Beta.

Having said that, we will of course fix existing issues and bugs, but understand that we have to balance priorities against available resources. We do have a long list of bugs (many reported by beta testers on this very forum) and we are dedicating development time towards fixing them.

i think the problem with this beta, is that we are so use to polished betas that we have forgot what a true beta is?

This is why beta testing is a joke, because the community is full of assholes who are more concerned with trashing each other through juvenile taunts, insults, and namecalling than testing, providing constructive feedback, and making progress toward a better product.

When I made constructive feedback, use search and you will find aplenty, I was either ignored or insulted.

-I gave feedback on spawning: CCP then opted for random spawn even if we pointed you it would not solve spawn-camping.
-I gave feedback on in-game skill balance and pointed out the problems of relying on SP/stats in a FPS and I was ignored.
-I gave feedback on: weight for weapons, animations, sounds, menus, introduce ED UI, improve UI, improve HUD, improve/fix melee...I was ignored every time.
-I pushed for Customization opposed to fitting and I was ignored: Balcklight Retribution has a better/wider customization than Dust 514 and it's not even a MMO and this is ridiculous.
If you look at other MMO instead you will find that Defiance & PalnetSide 2 have a customization system far better then ours.
-I proposed Realistic Magazine Management to make the game even harder: I was ignored.
-I proposed Cockpit view for aircraft, like in BF or Planteside 2 and I was ignored.
-I asked, for everyone, to let us turn off active aim assist and guess what it's going to stay.

We gave feedback on this and much more for months and we always ignored.
Never, never CCP answered to any of our threads but they had the time to answer to joke threads like "nerf the scissor".
Our gamepaly feedback was ignored but jokes are worth answering.

CCP was/is not interested in what I suggested and the result is that every Dust 514 preview agrees with me/us and says that the gameplay it's poor.

And Don't you dare say that we din't gave constructive feedback because we did it.

Uh, you did notice that there's a shiny new option to turn off aim assist in the settings menu, right?

How about...Its Beta-Alpha? Cause this isn't new school beta. Its a old school beta that begins right after alpha that could go on for a year or two. Stuff gets fixed that breaks something else that fixs something else that breaks another thing.

You guys need to understand that the of is not a ps3. It's processor is COMPLETELY different.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention; this game is 100% free. I wouldn't put this much effort into anything for free, would you?