Honestly, leave ambush alone. You don't like it, don't play it. Honestly sometimes your tired and just want to lay back and kill. No playing tag with objective: a, b, c, d.

If you add an objective to ambush then it becomes a smaller mode of skirmish.

Their seems to be a base of players who enjoys it also. A game needs variety so it is natural to have a team death match mode. Mag had Suppression which was like Ambush, and Sabotage which was like Skirmish. Of course Sabotage was more popular, but people were still actively playing Suppression.

The core of FPS was a team death match. I remember just wasting hours away playing golden eye 64 with my friends. It was a 2 vs 2 match, or sometimes a free for all. It was hours of entertainment. I understand mindlessly killing can and does get boring but it is a nice change of pace. If you don't like ambush don't play it. It is a place where people who care little about objectives and team work can go to run about.

Changing it to be a mini skirmish is going to ruin the spirit of a team death match. I'm pretty sure the game will have smaller skirmish mode, and some sort of capture the flag mode.

Vehicles should cost personal WP in Ambush - in fact, list the WP cost in its stats.

Problem solved.

Ok but it does not fit in this game as you saw last build as well as this one people do not like to play ambush so it's obviously doing something wrong so instead of having something no one plays how about we make into something people do play.

Yea...um...no I don't even know where the hell you came from with that it had absolutely to do with anything were discussing about...

This is just completely false. People did play Ambush; I'm one of them.

Pffft.. Seriously?! Supression was only played by KDR skanks looking for easy kills, and trying to ruin the experience of rookie players just entering the game. Anyone with more then five hours of experience should never be caught playing supression again. Simple as that. The core of FPS gameplay is debatable. Capture The Flag and other objective oriented game modes always have played a more important role, and always catch more players. Team deathmatch only works well when the maps are smaller, and spawning is more grouped. As it stands the game mode known as ambush is lacking, unrefined, and as I have pointed a cluser f#ck.

If you do not care about objectives -- why are you playing Dust514 where the team and objective come first? Seriously. It sounds like you are looking for a game such as Unreal Tournament, Quake, Call of Duty, or other varying titles. Granted I loved Unreal Tournament, but simple is simple nonetheless.

Ambush is simply a bar room fight. Nothing "ambushy" about it. Both teams showed up at a specific date and time just to rumble. What is this? West Side Story?!

Why are you so salty about it?

I solved the problem with TDM - the only problem.
I deserve congratulations.

It is like that in mostly every game with the option of Objectives and a Team Death Match. People enjoy objectives more.

Look at MAG. People play Sabotage a lot more, which is like Skirmish. They don't play suppression as much, which is like ambush. Doesn't mean zipper (RIP) will remove it.

Pffft.. Seriously?! Supression was only played by KDR skanks looking for easy kills, and trying to ruin the experience of rookie players just entering the game. Anyone with more then five hours of experience should never be caught playing supression again. Simple as that. The core of FPS gameplay is debatable. Capture The Flag and other objective oriented game modes always have played a more important role, and always catch more players. Team deathmatch only works well when the maps are smaller, and spawning is more grouped. As it stands the game mode known as ambush is lacking, unrefined, and as I have pointed a cluser f#ck.

If you do not care about objectives -- why are you playing Dust514 where the team and objective come first? Seriously. It sounds like you are looking for a game such as Unreal Tournament, Quake, Call of Duty, or other varying titles. Granted I loved Unreal Tournament, but simple is simple nonetheless.

Ambush is simply a bar room fight. Nothing "ambushy" about it. Both teams showed up at a specific date and time just to rumble. What is this? West Side Story?!

I did to it was boring as hell but I only did it to practice drops hip flying which is all its good for which shouldn't be all it's good for and when I say nobody I really mean a small amount keep that in mind.

Because having a choice between TDM and other game modes is a bad thing.

Sometimes I just want to log in and kill people as fast as possible, Ambush does that perfectly.

Not really. Especially as it stands. No cohesive gameplay at all. It acts more like a game of death match then playing as a team deathmatch. What you are looking for is and are arena set matches. Which would be held for personal glory, ISK, and wealth. Having variaty is not a bad thing. However when the game mode in question deploys and plays horribly? I'd rather it be redone at this point.

Small relative to what? Most nights between a fourth and a third of the population was in Biomass or Communication. You're telling me you're going to screw over a quarter of your potential customer base because skirmish has more people?

Anyway, I think I've found your problem. You're a pilot/driver. That's cool, but those maps usually had less emphasis on vehicular combat and more on infantry, which was another bonus.

Troll
That is all.

Don't get salty because you didn't fix anything.

Ok, so it seems to me some people don't seem to like Ambush. This wouldn't be such a big problem if it wasn't for the fact instant battle finder doesn't have a filter to, erm, filter out Ambush. So as I said somewhere on the first page, why not just suck it up until we get that filter?

Don't become even more of a dumbass because you think you did

But why just forget about it potentially damaging the game all because of "out of sight, out of mind" I for one love this game and would like to see it improve in all aspects.

This wraps it up

How does Ambush damage the game?

Because it has no place in the game it just doesn't and. It makes no sense how ownership of a district is decided upon who can kill the most immortal clones for no reason whatsoever.

Hyperbole aside, I'm not seeing any damage. Taking control of that district is a reason. Being the only side left standing is generally how most battles and wars pan out.

But the ambush map with supply depots is still better. Is it still not the same just becuase of that one change?

Well even that small change brings about a difference in the play style. Everyone will want to swarm and protect the supply depots to keep spamming forge and grenades. Heavies will stay to keep an infinite supply for their HMG's. Every bit of that changes the game in a different way.

The key here is how to add certain elements and keep the spirit of the death match. The game is not going to be about planetary conquest solely. Some people will just want to log on and shoot stuff.

It is serving the casual gamers.

You seemed to miss the IMMORTAL CLONES part and being the only side left standing is not just a full on deathmatch

Honestly the name for Skirmish sounds more suitable for Ambush.