Ambush is my favorite game. In my opinion, most of the people who dislike ambush have a problem getting kills and so they blame the game mode. Ambush is perfect for learning how to move and shoot. Just suck it up.

Which is what 90% of this game is all about. If you're having problems killing people now, Skirmish isn't going to help you.

Which is what 90% of this game is all about. If you're having problems killing people now, Skirmish isn't going to help you.

Arpentis-

Because the objective is to kill the other side's clones while limiting your own losses. That's the objective, plain and simple. Adding another objective would make it skirmish and not an Ambush.

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And you just listed the exact reason nobody likes to play ambush and I still fail to realize when ambush only meant kill everything and that's it...

Carlito-

First, In the "Seeding the Universe" fanfest video someone asked if you could basically destroy a district without fighting over it as a scorched earth method. Both devs stated that wasn't a feature in game but might be if players asked for it.

Secondly, OB has a cooldown and you have to have boots on the ground already fighting in order to use it.


Arpentis-

Nobody likes ambush? Funny, on the last build, Biomass and Communications usually had at least half the number of active players as skirmish had -Hardly nobody.

As for objectives. What objective are you going to add that wouldn't step on the toes of skirmish and completely change the flavor of ambush? KotH style with one side trying to hold an area...that is just an organized campfest. Click this terminal? That's skirmish. I agree there are ways to make Ambush more varied in terms of gameplay, but not by adding more skirmish style objectives.

Carlito-

First, In the "Seeding the Universe" fanfest video someone asked if you could basically destroy a district without fighting over it as a scorched earth method. Both devs stated that wasn't a feature in game but might be if players asked for it.

Secondly, OB has a cooldown and you have to have boots on the ground already fighting in order to use it.


Arpentis-

Nobody likes ambush? Funny, on the last build, Biomass and Communications usually had at least half the number of active players as skirmish had -Hardly nobody.

As for objectives. What objective are you going to add that wouldn't step on the toes of skirmish and completely change the flavor of ambush? KotH style with one side trying to hold an area...that is just an organized campfest. Click this terminal? That's skirmish. I agree there are ways to make Ambush more varied in terms of gameplay, but not by adding more skirmish style objectives.

I asked you what objective you would add to make Ambush more interesting. And again, Ambush was not empty, not even close, unless you're playing at 5 am EST on a US server. Ambush is team death match. That's what it is. I don't know why people cannot grasp this. Now, stealing or destroying "this", whatever "this" is, sounds fun, but it should have its own game mode. Don't just remove or change Ambush because YOU don't prefer it.

Most people don't like using shotguns or playing in heavy suits. And please tell me you're not seriously going to use the number of threads as a way to gauge who likes and plays what. Last week, 4 of those "20" threads were made by Carlito and it pretty much has the same people in each thread going back and forth. Also, most of those threads were in regard to the fact we weren't able to choose which map we got to play for testing purposes. If you played at 5am est then yes Ambush would be empty because most people on the east coast are either asleep or heading to work/school.

Most people don't like using shotguns or playing in heavy suits. And please tell me you're not seriously going to use the number of threads as a way to gauge who likes and plays what. Last week, 4 of those "20" threads were made by Carlito and it pretty much has the same people in each thread going back and forth. Also, most of those threads were in regard to the fact we weren't able to choose which map we got to play for testing purposes. If you played at 5am est then yes Ambush would be empty because most people on the east coast are either asleep or heading to work/school.

Instead of getting angry and making nearly unintelligible posts, it might be better if you actually used some critical thinking skills.

Yes it is a game. And sometimes people want to just log in and kill a few people for some laughs. Not always, but sometimes. That's what TDM is for. It's also there so people with epeens can grab a few of their friends and fight another group with epeens for e-honor. There are a lot of reasons for having a TDM style game mode in Dust.

I muddled through the poorly written text brick you threw at me, but i got that part. That's not the argument.

ROFL the depth of human understanding must be low today.

Honestly, leave ambush alone. You don't like it, don't play it. Honestly sometimes your tired and just want to lay back and kill. No playing tag with objective: a, b, c, d.

If you add an objective to ambush then it becomes a smaller mode of skirmish.

Their seems to be a base of players who enjoys it also. A game needs variety so it is natural to have a team death match mode. Mag had Suppression which was like Ambush, and Sabotage which was like Skirmish. Of course Sabotage was more popular, but people were still actively playing Suppression.

The core of FPS was a team death match. I remember just wasting hours away playing golden eye 64 with my friends. It was a 2 vs 2 match, or sometimes a free for all. It was hours of entertainment. I understand mindlessly killing can and does get boring but it is a nice change of pace. If you don't like ambush don't play it. It is a place where people who care little about objectives and team work can go to run about.

Changing it to be a mini skirmish is going to ruin the spirit of a team death match. I'm pretty sure the game will have smaller skirmish mode, and some sort of capture the flag mode.

Yes adding an objective to ambush, makes it not longer the same mode.

Before it was a kill fest.

Add an objective it changes the entire mechanics of the match. It will involve defending that one objective. It essentially makes it a "light low calorie" version of Skirmish. Is it exactly like Skirmish? No, but it embodies the basic spirit of Skirmish.

Hey if they wanna add a Smaller Skirmish that is cool. Or other types of match like a capture the flag, or a juggernaut mode. More the better, but don't obliterate one game mode because it isn't the most popular one.

The point of team death match is to kill. Nothing else.

Once you add other objectives to TDM, it's no longer traditional TDM.

lol...I pointed out such a large flaw in your argument you can't even come up with a response.
Reread the comment at the top of this quote and then respond to this.
"TDM is just being reassigned some where else in my argument."
Let me say this again: You want to change Ambush to something "more fun" and reassign TDM? That IS redundant.
Maybe YOU should get off the pills.

If it isn't broke don't fix it. Team Death Match was the corner stone of online fps gaming. Objectives were added to that cocktail to make it more enticing, but ultimately they should just have a plain old death match mode.

Sometimes you walk into that ice cream shop and honestly you just want vanilla, not mocha latte mint flavor.

Adding an objective kills the spirit of an original team death match. It becomes something different when you add an objective. Whether it is hack and hold. Or capture the flag. Or plant a bomb.

Honestly, leave ambush alone. You don't like it, don't play it. Honestly sometimes your tired and just want to lay back and kill. No playing tag with objective: a, b, c, d.

If you add an objective to ambush then it becomes a smaller mode of skirmish.

Their seems to be a base of players who enjoys it also. A game needs variety so it is natural to have a team death match mode. Mag had Suppression which was like Ambush, and Sabotage which was like Skirmish. Of course Sabotage was more popular, but people were still actively playing Suppression.

The core of FPS was a team death match. I remember just wasting hours away playing golden eye 64 with my friends. It was a 2 vs 2 match, or sometimes a free for all. It was hours of entertainment. I understand mindlessly killing can and does get boring but it is a nice change of pace. If you don't like ambush don't play it. It is a place where people who care little about objectives and team work can go to run about.

Changing it to be a mini skirmish is going to ruin the spirit of a team death match. I'm pretty sure the game will have smaller skirmish mode, and some sort of capture the flag mode.

This is just completely false. People did play Ambush; I'm one of them.

Because having a choice between TDM and other game modes is a bad thing.

Sometimes I just want to log in and kill people as fast as possible, Ambush does that perfectly.

Ok, so it seems to me some people don't seem to like Ambush. This wouldn't be such a big problem if it wasn't for the fact instant battle finder doesn't have a filter to, erm, filter out Ambush. So as I said somewhere on the first page, why not just suck it up until we get that filter?

How does Ambush damage the game?

so picture this -

one side ambushes another in an attempt to destroy the clones for the ground forces so the mcc can come in and do whatever without being in danger.at another operation can move forward.

why are so many people getting upset about ambush just existing in the game. its good to have a TDM as a selling point for an online game, and also ambush has a place in the game thematically as a way to weaken a planet's defenses before an eve pilot risks an expensive ship.

And holding circle over an installation is better somehow? You're arguing personal taste as a basis for destroying TDM.