Carlito-

First, In the "Seeding the Universe" fanfest video someone asked if you could basically destroy a district without fighting over it as a scorched earth method. Both devs stated that wasn't a feature in game but might be if players asked for it.

Secondly, OB has a cooldown and you have to have boots on the ground already fighting in order to use it.


Arpentis-

Nobody likes ambush? Funny, on the last build, Biomass and Communications usually had at least half the number of active players as skirmish had -Hardly nobody.

As for objectives. What objective are you going to add that wouldn't step on the toes of skirmish and completely change the flavor of ambush? KotH style with one side trying to hold an area...that is just an organized campfest. Click this terminal? That's skirmish. I agree there are ways to make Ambush more varied in terms of gameplay, but not by adding more skirmish style objectives.

What he just described sounds a lot like a gentle men's duel. Ha-ha-ha! Literally. It's not an ambush if both teams willing meet at the same gorch, or valley to slaughter one another. That is a skirmish, and simply put an arranged gentle men's duel. There is no objective. It borders on a bar fight. I mean if this was a supposed ambush then do explain why both sides obviously seem as if they were invited to come to a incursion which offers no real value? There is no objective to be had or won, and it seems all for nothing shy of selfish reasons. No team value whatsoever.

Carlito-

First, In the "Seeding the Universe" fanfest video someone asked if you could basically destroy a district without fighting over it as a scorched earth method. Both devs stated that wasn't a feature in game but might be if players asked for it.

Secondly, OB has a cooldown and you have to have boots on the ground already fighting in order to use it.


Arpentis-

Nobody likes ambush? Funny, on the last build, Biomass and Communications usually had at least half the number of active players as skirmish had -Hardly nobody.

As for objectives. What objective are you going to add that wouldn't step on the toes of skirmish and completely change the flavor of ambush? KotH style with one side trying to hold an area...that is just an organized campfest. Click this terminal? That's skirmish. I agree there are ways to make Ambush more varied in terms of gameplay, but not by adding more skirmish style objectives.

You mean every battle ever fought had another objective other than kill the other side? I agree with the naming system not being appropriate, but let's not argue for changing the entire game mode because the name is incorrect. If it helps you sleep at night, then imagine it's just two forces meeting and effectively skirmishing until one side is dead.

Carlito-

First, In the "Seeding the Universe" fanfest video someone asked if you could basically destroy a district without fighting over it as a scorched earth method. Both devs stated that wasn't a feature in game but might be if players asked for it.

Secondly, OB has a cooldown and you have to have boots on the ground already fighting in order to use it.


Arpentis-

Nobody likes ambush? Funny, on the last build, Biomass and Communications usually had at least half the number of active players as skirmish had -Hardly nobody.

As for objectives. What objective are you going to add that wouldn't step on the toes of skirmish and completely change the flavor of ambush? KotH style with one side trying to hold an area...that is just an organized campfest. Click this terminal? That's skirmish. I agree there are ways to make Ambush more varied in terms of gameplay, but not by adding more skirmish style objectives.

Hence my mention of the other team using OB on the other team, you still need ships and both sides are not gonna play nice unless its warbarges. learn 2 read.

BTW skirmish was 50 ppl max last build while skirmish enjoyed a cool 250 to 300 all the time

You mean every battle ever fought had another objective other than kill the other side? I agree with the naming system not being appropriate, but let's not argue for changing the entire game mode because the name is incorrect. If it helps you sleep at night, then imagine it's just two forces meeting and effectively skirmishing until one side is dead.

You and me must have been playing two different last build Ambush was empty most of the time. And your telling me that you really can't think of something that can be changed to have more of an objective based game not every objective has to be hack this or hold this it could be steal this or destroy this

I asked you what objective you would add to make Ambush more interesting. And again, Ambush was not empty, not even close, unless you're playing at 5 am EST on a US server. Ambush is team death match. That's what it is. I don't know why people cannot grasp this. Now, stealing or destroying "this", whatever "this" is, sounds fun, but it should have its own game mode. Don't just remove or change Ambush because YOU don't prefer it.

I have personally called down about a dozen OB strikes and its devestating in the right hands. Im talking whole teams slaughtered or forced off a point, you have rosey idea of fighting against that but I have seen three orbital strike in one game and guess what we won. Yes there is a cool down but having that kind of power in a pure KDR based game is not fun.


As for Null sec we will get there and we have to work to that from the beginning and ambush doesnt even work in null sec war with out some sort of tweek to make it worth it. Think of the future of the game CCP is trying to

If you called three OBs in one game then your team was already winning prior to that, or would have anyway. Right now it takes a few WPs to drop those on someone and to get enough for 3 means you and your team were already beating the other side heavily.

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Ambush works in hisec/lowsec for people who just want to log in and kill a few people before going to bed/work, w/e. right now Ambush has a faster turnover than skirmish, this means I can get more isk and sp faster than I normally would in skirmish. I also can lone-wolf it more depending on the map. Sometimes I just want to kill people, Ambush allows me to do that faster and with less fuss. That's why it is a good game mode, but not for everyone all the time. Thankfully we get to choose what we play.

If you called three OBs in one game then your team was already winning prior to that, or would have anyway. Right now it takes a few WPs to drop those on someone and to get enough for 3 means you and your team were already beating the other side heavily.

Bolded the important parts of your post.

Ambush works in hisec/lowsec for people who just want to log in and kill a few people before going to bed/work, w/e. right now Ambush has a faster turnover than skirmish, this means I can get more isk and sp faster than I normally would in skirmish. I also can lone-wolf it more depending on the map. Sometimes I just want to kill people, Ambush allows me to do that faster and with less fuss. That's why it is a good game mode, but not for everyone all the time. Thankfully we get to choose what we play.

Again team deathwatch does not make sense in this game and it's me and most of this game's community that do not enjoy it, as you can tell for the other 20 threads on this topic do not try to single me out like I'm the odd one out and I did play around that time I live on the east coast and..... Uh... Yeah..... It was just as empty... And if it was called team deathwatch instead of ambush that would make people less mad but it still wouldn't make a lick of sense in a game like this.

Most people don't like using shotguns or playing in heavy suits. And please tell me you're not seriously going to use the number of threads as a way to gauge who likes and plays what. Last week, 4 of those "20" threads were made by Carlito and it pretty much has the same people in each thread going back and forth. Also, most of those threads were in regard to the fact we weren't able to choose which map we got to play for testing purposes. If you played at 5am est then yes Ambush would be empty because most people on the east coast are either asleep or heading to work/school.

SO you turn to the its a game argument when the rest of us are trying to make a serious point.

Ran out points to argue did you?


Make it gladiator arena and not for war.


Make Ambush more apt to its name.

Depends.. I think I have every choice. Why? Because, I accept what contracts are fowarded or available to me, or my group. Meaning I have a choice. I do not have to accept a contract just because, it is there.

All in how you look at things I suppose.

Most people don't like using shotguns or playing in heavy suits. And please tell me you're not seriously going to use the number of threads as a way to gauge who likes and plays what. Last week, 4 of those "20" threads were made by Carlito and it pretty much has the same people in each thread going back and forth. Also, most of those threads were in regard to the fact we weren't able to choose which map we got to play for testing purposes. If you played at 5am est then yes Ambush would be empty because most people on the east coast are either asleep or heading to work/school.

Lies, cant argue with a liar. As for ambush it sucks who agrees

Instead of getting angry and making nearly unintelligible posts, it might be better if you actually used some critical thinking skills.

Yes it is a game. And sometimes people want to just log in and kill a few people for some laughs. Not always, but sometimes. That's what TDM is for. It's also there so people with epeens can grab a few of their friends and fight another group with epeens for e-honor. There are a lot of reasons for having a TDM style game mode in Dust.

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Found those with 30 seconds of searching. Please try and act like an adult.

We didn't get to choose those maps because CCP needed ambush tested but nobody was playing it as well as the player base being spread to thin that's why we were forced to use instant battle.