Null sec EvE players are ******** and dont understand that 80% of their population live in highsec. 80% of their own community can't be bothered with all the crap that goes with null sec. They just wanna hang out with a few buds, and look at how pretty space is.
The EvE community barely understands itself. (all those references to "carebears?" that's 80% of EvE players). The other 20% are the dicks makin out that they'll be dropping strikes every 2 minutes and laughing because they'll use marauders every game. No-one in EvE likes them either.
How are you planning on gettin Dusters to fight your wars when we hate you? ISK won't do it. Because we can get that in High sec in PvE or in PvP.
So what...1 in 5 EvE players acts like a tit by my calculations.

Another thread rife with

examples of this

I play both. Where is your god now?

I just want to say if someone wants a real "challenge" or show their gun skills, join the damn Military or gun club and PROVE how good your "skills" are instead of touting your epeen over a game... Drives me crazy when someone says "this game takes no skill". Also EVE players want this game to help THEM b/c its THEIR planetary infrastructure under attack.... I mean if you house was under "attack" would you idly sit by and let it get taken over...Didnt think so

Ok guys;

please stop to post: personal attacks, insult to each others and spam. You all are part of the DUST 514 community wherever your background is.

Thanks.

Let the players with more fps experience handle how the game mechanics should go though bro.

FPS experience? That's not what you're talking about though is it?

You mean "Console FPS of the specific style I like"

Because if you think you've been playing FPS longer than me then you are wrong. Been here since the start pal. Been playing FPS before consoles existed. I remember Wolfenstein the original, I played Spear of Destiny/Hexen/Heretic/Doom until my eyes bled. Sure you might well be better AT some of them than me amd probably all of them that use the DS3 in particular. But FPS experience in general? If that's all that counts then sit down and strap on your arse-kissing boots sonny, cause on that score there's a LOT of us "EVEtards" who've been gaming and FPS'ing FAR longer than you.

And even then, I'd be happy to defer to you on the FPS mechanics - but you aren't even talking about them anymore are you?
No, you're on here bitching about the MMO elements that make the higher SP players more powerful than the newbs. You're whining about there being too many vehicles in a freaking vehicle test-build, you're whining that KBM is coming because it might affect your E-peen becaue half the "scrubs" you are banking on to pad your KDR are actually pretty damn good at FPS and are crippled by their lack of familiarity with the cruddy DS3. You're the guys bitching that the RE's can be thrown and detonated and that killed the HMG by QQing tooo hard over it. (And by "you" I mean your side of this argument, Consolers and MAGtards)

Sure, come kill me in DUST, you won't be alone in that - and I don't even give a rats shite about dying either. But I sure as hell want the game I'm playiong to be a huge amount more than just another dead-in-6-months-twitch-shooter-MAG/COD/BF3-clone like you "Console" players seem to be demanding. Adter all, you're all going to be gone the moment the next COD clone drops anyway - it'll have more of the Reflex>Skill type twitch stuff you're aftyer anyway.

And I'm willing to bet I've owned a Playstation/Nintendo/Sega/NeoGeo bloody well longer than you have too by the way. Does that mean I'm more of a "console" player than you too? Does it make you want to suck up to my awesome knowledge and help me circle-jerk my E-peen? No? Well I don't give a rats about how "Experienced" you think you are either.

I prefer the Archery club. Guns are hassle in the UK. But I agree, when I went to the states, I gained a profound enjoyment of improving my grouping. Just like archery but a bit more noisy.
I fear that EvE players are more concerned with limiting the effects of Dust on EvE. The whole spy thing has me very frustrated. If Ironbloods numbers are right, there are more "spies" than active Beta testers.
I really feel that the majority of EvE posters feel like Dust is a rival corp. One to be broken before it can really get on it's feet.

FPS experience? That's not what you're talking about though is it?

You mean "Console FPS of the specific style I like"

Because if you think you've been playing FPS longer than me then you are wrong. Been here since the start pal. Been playing FPS before consoles existed. I remember Wolfenstein the original, I played Spear of Destiny/Hexen/Heretic/Doom until my eyes bled. Sure you might well be better AT some of them than me amd probably all of them that use the DS3 in particular. But FPS experience in general? If that's all that counts then sit down and strap on your arse-kissing boots sonny, cause on that score there's a LOT of us "EVEtards" who've been gaming and FPS'ing FAR longer than you.

And even then, I'd be happy to defer to you on the FPS mechanics - but you aren't even talking about them anymore are you?
No, you're on here bitching about the MMO elements that make the higher SP players more powerful than the newbs. You're whining about there being too many vehicles in a freaking vehicle test-build, you're whining that KBM is coming because it might affect your E-peen becaue half the "scrubs" you are banking on to pad your KDR are actually pretty damn good at FPS and are crippled by their lack of familiarity with the cruddy DS3. You're the guys bitching that the RE's can be thrown and detonated and that killed the HMG by QQing tooo hard over it. (And by "you" I mean your side of this argument, Consolers and MAGtards)

Sure, come kill me in DUST, you won't be alone in that - and I don't even give a rats shite about dying either. But I sure as hell want the game I'm playiong to be a huge amount more than just another dead-in-6-months-twitch-shooter-MAG/COD/BF3-clone like you "Console" players seem to be demanding. Adter all, you're all going to be gone the moment the next COD clone drops anyway - it'll have more of the Reflex>Skill type twitch stuff you're aftyer anyway.

And I'm willing to bet I've owned a Playstation/Nintendo/Sega/NeoGeo bloody well longer than you have too by the way. Does that mean I'm more of a "console" player than you too? Does it make you want to suck up to my awesome knowledge and help me circle-jerk my E-peen? No? Well I don't give a rats about how "Experienced" you think you are either.

I don't think the goal of these infiltrations is to cripple DUST. If I had to bet I'd say most EVE players are anxious to see New Eden grow. It's just that in wartime, you really want to have agents placed in every government and military possible. If only those agents were the seductive, curvy kind ;)

Somewhat completely unrelated but I know a guy who used to scam dudes in Jita by pretending to be a female and scamming ISK for cyber that was never provided.

The sandbox can get pretty frigging wierd. . .

Bet you'll never see that in COD et al. . .

A noob and his isk are SOONGäó parted
Corp chat gets weirder, there was a lengthily debate about necro goat **** (lol i cant say that "Adult movie") one day.
don't ask me how it started.

Why do people assume that if one plays EVE that we suck at FPS?

It's like if we can drive a car, we must suck at walking around.

Most of us probably have played more FPS than EVE, just using keyboard/mouse.

I've been playing FPS games since FPS existed, and played Team Fortress in 12v12 tournament league level competition for a couple years, which was the one of the top fps games in it's era. (not tf2, or tf classic)

Heck, I was at E3 when Thresh won his Ferrari in the Quake tournament, back when some of these kids were being bottle fed by childcare.

We just love the EVE universe, and want to make sure it fits within the Universe properly.. and many of us actually want to live in this side of things.


I want good everything-game.

What I can't stand is people trying to nerf everything that isn't an assault suit and an AR.

I want teamwork, I want brillant gunfights, I want great strategy and team cohesiveness.

So, enough with the stereotyping.

What happens if the console-jockeys win, and DUST gets SP's removed, loses the MMO aspect, loses the fitting and becomes very, very similar to say MAG/COD/BF3. What then? What's it's appeal, where's it's niche in the market? What would be the point-of-difference that would allow it to survive where others have become outdated? Because unless CCP can clone COD and give it better graphics on the same system somehow, then they have to innovate and do something new. Obviously this isn't something that our console FPS brothers are used to/want/can cope with. Nonetheless, it's vital to the potential longevity of DUST itself (Again something the Console FPS community don't seem to give a toss about - probably because as stated they'll be dropping it when the new leaderboards (sorry, Game) comes out).

FPS skill= successfully aiming, dodging, weaving, killing, destroying

EvE skill= playing the longest

If you guys care nothing for EVE, then why play a game immersed and born out of EVE?

There are dozens of games with pure gun game without all those pesky skills and OP vehicles and everything else. Go play CS or CoD or whatever fits your fancy.

This game is a RPG. A MMO FPS RPG set in the EVE Universe.

FPS experience? That's not what you're talking about though is it?

You mean "Console FPS of the specific style I like"

Because if you think you've been playing FPS longer than me then you are wrong. Been here since the start pal. Been playing FPS before consoles existed. I remember Wolfenstein the original, I played Spear of Destiny/Hexen/Heretic/Doom until my eyes bled. Sure you might well be better AT some of them than me amd probably all of them that use the DS3 in particular. But FPS experience in general? If that's all that counts then sit down and strap on your arse-kissing boots sonny, cause on that score there's a LOT of us "EVEtards" who've been gaming and FPS'ing FAR longer than you.

And even then, I'd be happy to defer to you on the FPS mechanics - but you aren't even talking about them anymore are you?
No, you're on here bitching about the MMO elements that make the higher SP players more powerful than the newbs. You're whining about there being too many vehicles in a freaking vehicle test-build, you're whining that KBM is coming because it might affect your E-peen becaue half the "scrubs" you are banking on to pad your KDR are actually pretty damn good at FPS and are crippled by their lack of familiarity with the cruddy DS3. You're the guys bitching that the RE's can be thrown and detonated and that killed the HMG by QQing tooo hard over it. (And by "you" I mean your side of this argument, Consolers and MAGtards)

Sure, come kill me in DUST, you won't be alone in that - and I don't even give a rats shite about dying either. But I sure as hell want the game I'm playiong to be a huge amount more than just another dead-in-6-months-twitch-shooter-MAG/COD/BF3-clone like you "Console" players seem to be demanding. Adter all, you're all going to be gone the moment the next COD clone drops anyway - it'll have more of the Reflex>Skill type twitch stuff you're aftyer anyway.

And I'm willing to bet I've owned a Playstation/Nintendo/Sega/NeoGeo bloody well longer than you have too by the way. Does that mean I'm more of a "console" player than you too? Does it make you want to suck up to my awesome knowledge and help me circle-jerk my E-peen? No? Well I don't give a rats about how "Experienced" you think you are either.

And DUST is a FPS that requires EVE skills. That's why it sucks.

If you guys care nothing for EVE, then why play a game immersed and born out of EVE?

There are dozens of games with pure gun game without all those pesky skills and OP vehicles and everything else. Go play CS or CoD or whatever fits your fancy.

This game is a RPG. A MMO FPS RPG set in the EVE Universe.