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Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.06 23:01:00 -
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Because the console crowd are not happy with the state of the game. We have no love for CCP and were not welcomed very nicely upon arrival to the forums (those that bothered). EvE players could have vested interests in Dust. I'd imagine we'll see more participation with the next build. If not CCP might need to have a serious think about things.
Lots of people cba to test. Dust demo for playing slay yo. Get on it yo. Then back to play favorite games. Which Dust may become a part of one day when things pick up. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.06 23:04:00 -
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Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:I don't know why EvE players play this game in the first place. Just stick to your game. Why do you care about the mechanics in this game when you'll just end up playing EvE once CCP makes this game take fps skill again?
It's actually really important they DO keep playing EvE. They need to pay my cheap self to do things. Stick to what your good at. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.07 01:12:00 -
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Mechanics in this game are important, but is anyone really arguing over hit detection and better controls? I don't think so. And we've got veteran elite fps'ers giving different answers as to how strafy and fast they want the game to be, so that tells you right there it's a style choice.
But the general consensus IMHO from the FPS crowd is we want it faster. How much is up for debate. A few player still crack on about their sluggish game play being more tactical/strategic, but being slow has no upside really. Being fast is awesome (fact). The problem is a few "EvE integration diehards" get involved from their Dropship or tank in a thread about strafe speed ect. See the problem? This then leads to the stereotyping of EvE players rather a negative way.
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So if'n you want to run us outta our own universe, you better bring god's own f'in gun game and more, bub. ;)
Something tells me CCP would start letting your titans doomsday our PSN accounts out of existence along with several planets.
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Why should EVE players get to decide what kind of game we should play?
Because they're playing Dust too, or atleast the ones in the beta. Loads of the EvE crowd are good people. Forums and Internet anonymity bring out the worst in people. Yeah I'm an ******** on here sometimes, swinging my epeen but I realise the less "skilled" players might actually make up a larger proportion of the player base than the elite. Hence being elite and what not. While the elite usually know what they're on about, it would be silly for CCP to ignore less skilled players.
Edit: just to be clear I am not elite. Just good. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.07 01:59:00 -
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Bf takes skill. Dumb argument. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.07 02:38:00 -
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Regis Mark V wrote:Tony Calif wrote:Bf takes skill. Dumb argument. How so? It takes no more skill than any other FPS.
More skill than EvE is the point I believe. It's just totally different skill. For god sake, asteroids don't even stop shots on EvE. There is no cover. It's just weak in the FPS crowds eyes as CoD is to the EvE crowd. CoD is just an example, don't focus on that please. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.07 02:40:00 -
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@Garr
If those posts slap you in the face then yeah, it colours your judgement.
Btw can we stop the quotes and just say @? Too much to scroll through... |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.07 08:42:00 -
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400k eve players or the 11million cod kids. Who has more FPS experience. Please, shut up. EvE players have more FPS experience than FPS players, more brains than NASA, are more cunning than cunning mr fox, an are more popular than kittens. Yeah.
Cool story bro.
Where the hell do you find these people? In such numbers a well... |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.07 14:39:00 -
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When EvE players can aim and shoot, hell will freeze over. EvE players only defence is on these forums, having their superiority complex's.
@Garr
"We treat each other like Edited, so we'll treat you like Editedtoo"
Something for us all to remember...
Null sec EvE players are Edited and dont understand that 80% of their population live in highsec. 80% of their own community can't be bothered with all the crap that goes with null sec. They just wanna hang out with a few buds, and look at how pretty space is.
The EvE community barely understands itself. (all those references to "carebears?" that's 80% of EvE players). The other 20% are the Edited makin out that they'll be dropping strikes every 2 minutes and laughing because they'll use marauders every game. No-one in EvE likes them either.
How are you planning on gettin Dusters to fight your wars when we hate you? ISK won't do it. Because we can get that in High sec in PvE or in PvP.
So what...1 in 5 EvE players acts like a tit by my calculations. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.07 14:55:00 -
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Gz |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.07 17:11:00 -
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Well Rank, you fit the bill for why I'm fed up of "I don't want CoD" comments. You've written a nice post saying you don't want this or that or for it to be like so&so.
You've not said 1 bloody thing you DO want. Gz. I hope you get a black screen on release. Everything you wanted, but with more colour :D |
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Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.07 17:30:00 -
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Again you just told me what you dont want. Woot woot (yeah I bothered to read your post after mine where you ask for MMO / RPG bias. Disagree) but this has very little to do with the balance of EvE players to Console gamers. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.08 20:26:00 -
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Reefersmokintaz wrote:I just want to say if someone wants a real "challenge" or show their gun skills, join the damn Military or gun club and PROVE how good your "skills" are instead of touting your epeen over a game... Drives me crazy when someone says "this game takes no skill". Also EVE players want this game to help THEM b/c its THEIR planetary infrastructure under attack.... I mean if you house was under "attack" would you idly sit by and let it get taken over...Didnt think so
I prefer the Archery club. Guns are hassle in the UK. But I agree, when I went to the states, I gained a profound enjoyment of improving my grouping. Just like archery but a bit more noisy.
I fear that EvE players are more concerned with limiting the effects of Dust on EvE. The whole spy thing has me very frustrated. If Ironbloods numbers are right, there are more "spies" than active Beta testers.
I really feel that the majority of EvE posters feel like Dust is a rival corp. One to be broken before it can really get on it's feet. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.09 08:29:00 -
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What happens if the console-jockeys win, and DUST gets SP's removed, loses the MMO aspect, loses the fitting and becomes very, very similar to say MAG/COD/BF3. What then? What's it's appeal, where's it's niche in the market? What would be the point-of-difference that would allow it to survive where others have become outdated? Because unless CCP can clone COD and give it better graphics on the same system somehow, then they have to innovate and do something new. Obviously this isn't something that our console FPS brothers are used to/want/can cope with. Nonetheless, it's vital to the potential longevity of DUST itself (Again something the Console FPS community don't seem to give a toss about - probably because as stated they'll be dropping it when the new leaderboards (sorry, Game) comes out).
This is basically why EvE players get called bad. OMG there's no skills, where is the lasting appeal?
Secondly, Counter strike is still one of the most played Pc games 14 years after it was released and 9 after it's final update. Those constant updates for EvE you pay for. CoD's actually a better economy (-ú50 a year instead of EvE prices). Now, if the game was good, and the moment to moment action was able to be described as "triple A" I think it'd last anyway. People play for gun game... and keep playing if it's good enough.
That's the whole point. Most I the console FPS crowd really don't like this much, and know what will happen with KBM. So...
My question for you sir.
If you don't care about EvE, what does this game offer you, that 10 other games don't? (section8, MAG and BF just examples)
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Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.09 11:35:00 -
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This:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/04/29/dust-514-promises-to-be-a-game-changer-an-interview-with-ccp-games-ceo-hilmar-petersson/
But it seems they actually just want to make EvE players another game. Not a great FPS. |
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